https://deepmind.google/blog/genie-4-a-new-generation-of-world-simulation/

Yes, it says "Resets in 19h." That's because I sent one message to GPT-OSS earlier this week when I accidentally selected it, which only drained 1% tho. The Opus limits are ABYSMAL...

I kept flipping between the two for actual day job coding and wrote down impressions as I went. Claude still feels a touch more reliable when I hand it a messy existing codebase and say fix this without breaking that. Gemini wins for me on big context dumps, I can throw a lot more at it and it keeps up. Neither one nails the almost right but not quite problem, I still spend real time reviewing both. Honestly the gap between them is small enough now that I pick based on which tab is already open. Anyone found a task where one clearly beats the other?

I asked 2 questions with Argon at High thinking and I'm rate limited. It'd be fine if I could just bounce back to 3.8 but we're stuck with 3.5 flash-lite which feels like the stone age. Luckily I don't pay that much for my Pro membership because of some discounts but Argon is genuinely usuable with how stingy they are.

Edit: I made a mistake upon checking I asked 3 questions not 2 😔

I'm a heavy to ultra heavy user. From waking up to before bed, i use it all day for everything. My day start with asking gemini "good morning", then I will ask it how it is doing, what are the next updates , how to overcome this or that etc .

After getting gemini pro for free, i ain't letting it sit idle. I'm searching every way possible to hit the daily quota to the maximum limit. I must research topics in detail I'm curious about, I most paste the response and save it in a note taking app just incase the subscription ends for me and I can't afford in future.

Gemini has make me forget any other app exists. Watching a video feels like a waste of time when I can get immediate answer from gemini. I do not talk to people, I talk with gemini. I have personalised it in a way it must reply as an understanding honest buddy matching my tone.

From a week I have used it so much that i can't sleep peacefully. Every conversation with it reply in my head. I wake up with a leftover question from my dream to solve it the moment after I wake up on gemini.

Any hardcore user with similar experience ?

Everyone knows that the free version of Gemini was recently nerfed. And I started noticing something strange... I get the feeling that "some unknown and outdated" Gemini model built into Google Search... is now smarter than "Auto Gemini 3.5" in Gemini itself. The model built into Search tends to give longer, more detailed answers, reasons more logically, and knows more facts(i mean, internal knowledge without triggering web search). Basically, if you need to quickly do some tasks and don't want to keep a chat history...as strange as it may sound...it's now more logical to use Google Search with AI mode.

I think that Google only gave us Argon because they were way way past their "Gemini 3.5 pro" release date and the other companies were releasing brand new model to attract google customers base.

But because this model cost an arm and a leg to run, they gave us, poor limit, 3 prompt per 5 hours for pro subscribers, to reduce the bleeding in their finance until they can ship an Argon 4 Flash

What do you think?

I was running argon at medium setting, exhausted 5hr lim in i think around 5 prompts. no coding involved, just web search and stuff. also the way this model responds seems idk a bit different than 3.1 pro, and takes waaaaayyy too long to respond

I've been using Gemini pro for about a year and have been happy with it. Currently using 3.1 pro. But I noticed it's acting differently than it used to.

For example, I have a gem created for assistance with code. And in the past whenever I posted about a function, it gave me advice that included knowledge of that function or related functions from other chats in the same gem.

But today I did the same thing and instead of giving me an informed response, it gave me a generic response like it was the first time it had seen that function.

Also, I use Gemini to verify social media posts that I question whether they're true or not. Whenever I would do that it was just automatically look for references and legitimate newspapers or other sites that verify authenticity of things.

But today I did the exact same thing and it just said I can't tell if that's true or not, and then advised me to look it up using reliable sources (which is what it used to do automatically). So I said, please look it up using reliable sources. And then it did so and gave me the answer. But I never had to tell it to do that before.

Anyone else experiencing these kinds of issues with gemini?

I currently have YouTube premium lite through my google ai pro plan but the YouTube app says my subscription expired?

It ligit took 350k in just to push this while it took only 100k ish before it said "all phases are done, the project is complete" i seriously dont understand what was it even doing with those 350k tokens. and its asked me a messaged -

this has less commits than "project_name"/test2" (remind u in totally diffrent place than this) do u want to push that or this one. like why would i even push .... ok if i needed to push that one then why would i even explicitly mention the path to u in the first place? and its asking me whether i want to push this or that like wha???

Dude see those argon condition like 50% usage finish just for hi-hello and more over i dont even have argon to use, google see this 3.8 is ok enough just add one more thinking level from high -> X high -> Max the issue is it dosent thing twice. it has way too much of tokens it dosent use them. literally making it think 2-3 more than what its thinking now will solve 74% of the issues most users have.

I have read many posts about limits last days. And

Just now I did run Argon High on big task, ( read about 20 scripts with different mathematical formulas, in few words the project which I'm work with Opus already a month. ).

And after analysing whole project and providing adjustment instructions, it spent 8% of weekly Argon limit. ( Was run it in Antigravity built in Gemini Desktop App).

As for me it is not bad. I'm agree that it would be great if they will provide us similar volume of capacity as Claude on pro plan, however, it is not extremely small quota as many people post in this sub.

Also, probably in my case Argon was work with code / math and on such tasks it drain quota slower than for example in case I will assign him to browse the web.

My opinion that Google provides us well enough amount of performance capacity, but we just need to design our prompts and tasks well, to get reliable results. For example, it is better to assign Flash model to prepare data and only run Argon to analyse it. And don't run Argon on some tasks which don't require high intelligence.

Sorry for all bard lovers but I can't stand this shit any longer

In the chat for some reason all other main ones like gpt and anthorpic i can use deepsearch any time i want but in gemini? no i have to select certian model OR start whole new chat, wtf?

now I sucked it up and finally used deepsearch but nope I got rate limited, okay I want to close the option so I can chat normally but nope there is no x button and i have to wait, like who deisgn these things

Which model you get now depends on your tier, and most casual users have no idea which one they are even talking to. My free accounts still show Flash and Pro today but it clearly varies by the hour. For people who just open the app and type, this is invisible and they will quietly get a weaker model and blame the whole product. Anyone actually tracking what free versus Plus gets right now?

When trying to do something like document work with Gemini, the sandbox always paused, so I have to wait for 1-2 minutes or open a new chat, but it has never happened.

When on earth will the sandbox resume, and can it even be resumed? Are there many users like me?

I heard there is a way, that you gonna get 3 free month how to get it?, I want it in aistudio, is it true? and how to do it, guide me guys, argon in app is so shit that forget in long context and only have 5 messages, at least in studio won't forget