I seriously hope it gets better in the later seasons, but right now it feels interesting, disjointed, and boring all at the same time. Currently on the 18th episode, and I'm already over the Korean couple and Sayid's forced accent. Michael started interesting but fell off, and so did Claire. The mystery and intrigue of the island is still there, though the tension is constantly interrupted by all the flashbacks. So far it's a 4/10.

Also please don't spoil anything else just thought this was a funny way to get spoiled

By far the funniest scene in the show is Desmond gearing up to hit poor wheelchair bound John with his car for the second time in a week. It's so absurd and unexpected I couldn't stop laughing.

I'm halfway through season 4 and I cannot watch without posting this first

What is it with the main cast of this show and their inability to stay loyal to one partner

Let's start with Kate, the Queen of disloyalty. She starts off stuck between Jack and Sawyer, kissing Jack first and then Sawyer later, and in season 3 she chooses to sleep with Sawyer, and then Jack stays behind so they can both escape. But then when everyone regroups she's giving Jack eyes while being with Sawyer. When Jack has eyes for Juliet instead she decides only then to sleep with Sawyer again because she can't have Jack and wants Jack to want her. She also gets mad at Sawyer for calling her out on it and begins gaslighting him. Later when they're on the way to the radio tower she's giving eyes to Jack, then crashes out on Sawyer who also insults her, and then gets upset that Jack has eyes for Juliet instead. Now we're in Season 4 where even though Jack is clearly attached to Juliet, she's smiling and flirting with Jack knowing this. Now to make it super clear why I'm annoyed, I am on Season 4 episode 10, where she told Jack he can't have her unless he also wants Aaron, and after doing exactly what she asked, she goes to do things for Sawyer behind his back, which is insane to me because respectfully Sawyer can't go more than 5 seconds without being an asshole to her, which is funny because he's actually nicer to Hugo and Claire than her now. And of course all of this is on the Island and after. We on top of all of this have the numerous boyfriends she had while on the run, of whom she got all of them into trouble. And I know people have responded to me on this before saying the best friend chose to get in the car, but she chose to go involve him knowing she's bringing him into trouble, she uses her looks and flirts to get what she wants then acts like a victim when something bad happens to those people.

Let's move onto Jack next. He is not as worse but still bad. At first he seemed loyal with the wife he helped heal and all. But then he has eyes for the next lady crying to him for a surgery? And had the audacity to be upset with his father giving him genuine advice based on what he literally saw happening? His ex-wife is no better because while Jack is cheating on a very small scale and immediately regrets and walks away when it became real, and then immediately was honest with his wife with what he did, she was cheating the entire time and only told him when he decided to be honest. The difference being that she didn't regret cheating and unlike him didn't want to fix anything and just left. On the island he has liked Kate from the beginning and that's clear, but again she sends mixed signals because her mentally deranged mind can't settle down for more than 5 seconds, and when he sees her with Sawyer in the cell he makes his decision and settles for Juliet. But then Kate keeps giving him signals until finally he does settle for Kate as we see in the future, only for her to do the same thing his ex-wife did and again she's only upset she got caught. The audacity on this woman to tell him she doesn't want him around "her son" in a state she caused him to be in on top of everything he's going through, when she isn't even biologically related to Aaron.

Sawyer. He hasn't cheated on the Island, but he had obviously terrible loyalty before it. The issue I have with him is his need to always have something wrong. That when the other shoe doesn't drop he takes off his own shoe and drops it. He ruins anything good going for him again and again. Although Kate is where I can't 100% blame him because he has a right to be upset that she's just using him.

Juliet is just a victim in most of this, yes she was the affair for Goodwin, but Goodwin is the cheater, and Juliet is the homewrecker, and to be completely fair his wife had a terrible attitude. But then the poor girl has Goodwin die, only because Ben wants her all to himself. Then she has Jack but again she is just a pawn because he's only with her because he can't have Kate.

In all honesty Sawyer and Jack both should've just left Kate's ass single on the Island for all 4 seasons so she could learn her lesson because they must have no self respect to want a woman that keeps jumping between 2 men. Juliet poor girl should've also set her line or maybe even gone for Sawyer because she knows what she wants and I think she could fix him.

I love Sun and Jin, but I hate that Sun cheated. But I completely see where the writers went with Bernard because killing people for a living is definitely worse than cheating, and therefore I guess I can't be too upset with Sun but at least Jin was honest about what he does for her father and she never planned on being honest with Jin about the affair. It's actually funny because she has the audacity to slap Juliet for telling Jin something he deserved to know, and that she should've told him herserlf but never planned to and even lied to him about. That is slapping the same woman who is the reason you know you're pregnant, that the baby is Jin's and that is genuinely trying to keep you alive.

At least we have Rose and Bernard to show us what a real healthy loyal loving couple is like. And Charlie and Claire towards the end and beginning, since we have the middle portion where Charlie was tweaking. Oh and Alex and Carl, poor Carl I really didn't expect 3 people to die, Danielle has been here since Season 1 and I really thought we'd explore her backstory at least once before she died but oh well.

For the most part I have enjoyed Lost but there have been a few ridiculous bits and pieces.

- Sawyer running the exact niche scam that had his family killed and also keeping with him an old tear stained letter he wrote when he was a kid. While I can see what is happening narratively. It seems clumsy and contrived. And then Kate coming up with a full psychological theory behind his actions and attributing good to this guy who has only terrorized them the entire season. She also did the same psychological breakdown when Sawyer stole the guns in the long con.

Kate staging an elaborate bank heist to obtain a toy plane that hurt several people.

First time doing a pumpkin carving that was more complex than a normal jack-o-lantern and it turned out great I think! A couple pieces fell off but don’t tell anyone.
I carved it with my girlfriend who is binging it for the first time and is currently on the season one finale. Can’t wait for her to find out what this is😆

Currently watching my way through Desmond-centric and Desmond-heavy episodes. He’s my favorite character and, to me, the most important on the show. So I wanted to follow his journey more closely! After this I’m diving into Lost: Circle to completely rewire my brain lol.

Anyone else ever do a specific character-focused rewatch? Learn anything new?

Just started season 6.
Season 5 is clearly the worst right?

Sawyer and crew spent 3 years with Dharma a significantly longer amount of time then with the plane survivors so realistically thats their people. Only Jin has a reason for being more loyal to the crash survivors because of Sun.

Kate was really only with Sawyer for a few weeks yet spent years with Jack and all of a sudden the show treats their relationship like they were madly in love.

Sawyers the man for getting 3 of the best looking girls on the show.

God damnit why is John Locke still alive… I keep cheering that hes dead yet another fake out death.

Annoying that Sawyer doesnt understand that if Jack and co. didnt come back the time skips wouldnt have ended and they would all be dead.

Desmond is the best character on the show, I just wanted him to be happy with Penny yet he gets dragged back in, just let him live and be happy!!!

Richard is the man, guys cool as a cucumber

Starting Lost this week, just wondering if there are any filler episodes in the early seasons. Because I didn't expect 25 episodes in season 1. Again, no spoilers, thank you.

On my umpteenth rewatch, and I just got to Charlotte's death. It got me thinking.

I'm fully aware that basically the entirety of the show, and especially the events of season 5, ultimately serve the purpose of fulfilling a perpetual time loop and placing our main characters into their cosmically ordained positions in order to bring about the events at the end of the show. Everything that happens was always meant to happen, and everyone has their role according to Jacob's/the island's grand plan (for sake of convenience I will just say "the island's" going forward).

But watching Charlotte join the cast, not do anything consequential towards the island's plan, and then die and get lost to the flashes, made me wonder what exactly her role truly was in the grand scheme of things.

Obviously, her death is what motivates Daniel to change his views on time travel, setting him on the path to get killed by Eloise, and setting the group on the path to detonating the bomb at the Swan. Two of the most major points of the plan, caused by Daniel's desire to change the future and maybe reverse Charlotte's death.

But my question is: is that it? Her entire role was to die and be the motivation for a more important character? Please, if you have more insight or a different perspective, or any points that I missed, I would love to read them. But to me, it seems like a textbook case of fridging.

This is nothing against the writers, and absolutely nothing against Charlotte or Rebecca Mader. I love them both to death, I greatly enjoyed having her character in the show. I want to make it clear that I'm talking about her role in the island's plan, not her role in the story.

Anyway, this train of thought has led me down an interesting rabbit hole that I will explore more deeply in a follow-up post. Expect big things in the coming days.

The image for Sun's Passport was opened in the same program that was used to create it!

I am in the middle of season 5. I feel like the show went up to another level at the middle of season 3 and from there to season 5, it's a lot more enjoyable than the first two seasons. We got so many answers during this period.

I'm on my 15th or 16th or 20th rewatch, Idk, I've lost count. But one thing that's always annoyed me, is that in the beginning of season 2, when Jack keeps insisting that nothing will happen if the button isn't pushed.

Why didn't Desmond tell Jack "Well, FYI Brotha, there was one time when I didn't push it in time. Everything made of metal was flying around the room, and the Island was shaking." Obviously he wouldn't mention the plane crash, because he didn't know about the logs.

I guess that leads to a bigger question. Why was Desmond willing to along with Lockes plan and not pushing it?

It shouldn't take the logs to convince him that pushing the button is real, he's experienced first hand what happens if you don't.

Ranking based on the best acting, best back story, and how interesting I found each character. Some higher entries with less screen time are character whom I’d have loved to have seen more of.

Unpopular take. Never cared for Charlie. He whined way too much, and was often pretty thick and selfish - until his part of the story came to an end. Frank is also overrated on this sub. He contributed very very little to the story other than being the figurehead for a mode of transport and the odd sarcastic remark.

Will assume 90% of people will disagree as Redditors love to do. But still, let me know who’d be in your top tier.

Forgive me. Sleep deprived. Feeling nostalgic. But I'm chuckling to myself over here about the crack concept of taking Lost characters and applying Pokemon logic to give them battle moves.

So far I have--

JACK - Hero Jaw, Soulful Stare

CHARLIE - Guitar Strum, Inky Hands

DESMOND - Celtic Twang, Electro Soul

JULIET - Cobalt Gaze, Cryptic Silence

BEN - Poker Face, Rapid Calculation

SAWYER - Nickname, Open Shirt

SUN - Hidden Depths, Green Fingers

LOCKE - Test of Faith, Citrus Smile

MILES - Haunted Ears, Daddy Issues

MR EKO - Sacred Carving, Mary's Secret

ARZT - Weird Science, Blast Radius

Name of the show is “FROM” and I highly suggest you watch it.

I just finished a rewatch and I kept track of little questions or thoughts, when I finished, I deleted things that got answered to my satisfaction and got left with a cheeky 15 questions. I understand there is most likely no actual answer to most of these or up to interpretation but would just like to hear people's thoughts or ideas anyways. Do not feel obligated to answer all of them, that would be awesome! But feel free to pick and choose.

1. What are some of your theories about who Jill is, the lady helping Ben in the regular world? 

2. Who do you think is shooting on the outrigger during the time jumps?

3. Why is there a rope in the ground after the well disappears, just attached to the timeline because Sawyer is holding it?

4. Who created the pendulum that locates the island?

5. How does the whole summoning the monster from Ben's room work (almost like a mini heart of the island), and what do you think he meant by it summoning him instead?

6. Why did Eloise leave the island?

7. Why does MIB say he is disappointed at

everyone on the beach after knocking out Richard, he brought them all to the statue and had them wait?

1. Why is MIB stuck as Locke?

2. Who do you think killed all the ajira passengers?

3. Why didn't Flocke just let Jack die on the beach when mortars came? 

4. Why do you think the heart of the island light is so bright in "Across the Sea" but dimmer in the finale?

5. Why do you think they changed up the words when Mother was passing on to Jacob her role, she said "same as me" then with Jacob to Jack he says "now you're like me" I know it's a subtle difference but it seems like a conscious choice since we see the changing of the guard 3 different times.

6. What do you think the chant Mother and Jacob means when passing the torch? Even though it is just symbolic.

7. Whose skeleton down at the cork?

8. Why didn't Desmond or Jack become a smoke monster, messing with the heart of the island?

Thanks!

For me, it’s Sawyer. His character development throughout the show is incredible.

What about you?

Sorry (kind of).

Hi all,

I'm looking for some good reaction channels that have watched Lost, any recommendations?

Preferrably either already finished the show or currently at seasons 5 or 6.

And ones where you can tell that the reactor(s) are actually invested.

Edit: Thank you all for your recommendations! A lot of people recommended Stephen's Universe so I'll try him out, especially intrigued by his filmmaking commentary. I'm noting down all the others as well

Kate’s was the best for me. Loved how we found out she was the fugitive on the Plane and the whole Mystery of wondering what she did and then finally finding out about it then continuing on with her Connection to Sawyer by knowing Cassidy mixed with of course her love story with her Childhood Friend Tom. Say what you want about Kate but I did love learning more about her as the Show went on. The worst would be a tie between Shannon and Libby just cause Libby really didn’t have a flashback we just knew she knew Hugo from Santa Rosa and then Shannon only had one episode to tell her story and then she died so there really wasn’t much more to it then what we got.

This post is not to hate or judge any character. it's just something i genuinely don't understand after ny second rewatch.

So the first triangle between Jack, his wife Sarah and some guy she had an affair with, It ends up with him dumped and ridiculed. I thnk that was pretty much enough to get his situation and move on. But then,

gets into a love triangle with Kate and Sawyer where he looks like a safe backup plan from the get go. Then has to watch Kafe freaking out after kissing him and running back to sawyer. Watch her have sex with Sawyer at the cages. Looks awkward and redundant while they're kissing on the freighter. watch Kate lying about doing Sawyer a favor while she is engaged to him. That imho is the final straw but it goes on and on.

It gets more and more embarrassing each time and never really gets better. nd generally everytime there is a new potential love interest for Jack, they make sure she ends up with Sawyer.

What is the point of this repetitive plotline? Is it a 'who gets the chicks' joke or was there a serious plotline thst has a point? Why the backstory with his wife is not enough and gets more and more pathetic . everyone else find their true and only love why not him.

It's also a shame because he is such a deep character thst doesn't need so much romantic angle in the first place.

I wished he could be given a love story with some one else thst has lots of challenges, but not a love triangle. Someone who has the same wounds as him but has no doubts about loving him. but it was the same trauma going on again. it feels repetitive and embarrassing.

I don’t know how to write out the phonetics, but I hope you guys catch on what pronunciations I’m talking about.

The marking of the “wh” with a j-ey sound or a double O.

The fact that he not always pronounces like that, helps emphasize his scenes and deliveries when needing to mark his emotions or power dynamics.

I know this episode is supposed to be vague, and give us just enough info but to also just keep the audience guessing for themselves. I listened to the commentary of the episode and I had no idea it was so "polarizing" mentioned as a joke, but also fact. I'm curious about some takes people might have on this one.

1. After washing ashore, they switch up to speaking English almost immediately and seamlessly. Mother knows what language to initially speak and then it changes. Thoughts? I think maybe they continued their conversation in the first language, and the pivot to English is just for the audience, but it's also kind of weird because the scene isn't that long and we have been reading subtitles since the beginning.

2. Do you think Mother brought Claudia to the island to steal the baby to get a replacement? And if so, if she was so worried about the others that made it, why would she let them live, if alluded to her being the smoke.

3. If she was the smoke, then her power to be immortal goes with Jacob, and she says he is the same as her when drinking the cup. That doesn't make sense to me because he is not a monster afterwards, so that part of her didn't translate?

Anyways, I love this episode because it's more history. Thoughts?