I’m not sure what context is needed so just let me know what questions I can answer.
My ex and I coparent and have split custody, taking the kids 3 and 4 days each week respectfully.
She has always been more comfortable living in a more cluttered and messy living space than me but as the years have progressed the condition of her abode has fallen further into disrepair.
When we first started living together, there were only a couple boxes that we never seemed to be able to get around to unpacking. Every time our lease was up and we moved the same boxes would follow us and be shoved up against some random wall forever waiting to be unpacked until it was time to move again.
As the years passed, the laundry started to be a problem. At first it was just that the clean laundry would collect on the couch, waiting to be folded or put away for days or a full week. Then more clean laundry started to be added to the pile.
Then the laundry pile got moved to our bed.
It got to the point where our laundry covered most of the bed permanently and spilled onto the floor of the bedroom and as a result only one of us had an edge of the bed to sleep on and the other slept out in the living room on the couch.
As more time passed and we had our kids we kept buying things online because it was so convenient, but we never really got rid of anything. Our house filled up with random stuff and every shelf, every table, every couch surface, and on the floor around the edge of every room was piled with stuff.
I couldn’t keep up with being the only one who cared and tried to tidy things up. My ex would say “It doesn’t have to look like a show room”, “It’s just your mom/my family/our friends, why do you care so much about how clean it is?”, “It’s messy/cluttered but it’s not dirty.” When I did try to tidy up I would be yelled at because afterwards my ex couldn’t find things or that I didn’t check with her before throwing things away.
We’ve divorced now and to clarify, I’m not OCD, I try to stay up on dishes but sometimes they sit in my sink for up to 3 or 4 days. I let the toilets and showers get a little gross before I clean them. I do laundry once a week and get around to sorting and putting it away at least by the time to do laundry again.
I looked up stuff on hoarders and apparently there are variations or levels to it, the lesser or first level is called cluttering, followed by collecting, then hoarding.
Her house doesn’t look like what I would consider a textbook example of hoarding, but the cluttering definitely fits.
The issue:
It’s not just stuff, it’s cleanliness being affected at this point too.
When I dropped our kids off to her at the end of my 3 days, she hadn’t done any cleaning. Usually the main living room floor area is at least tidied up a bit but there was crumbs everywhere and fruity pebbles like the kids were there all day.
I don’t really care if it’s like that when I go to pick the kids up, they are 2 and 4 years old, they make a mess and I figure she’ll clean it up on her off days when they’re with me.
But besides the floor being gross, I stepped into the kitchen and the stove, the sink, and the counters were all full of dirty dishes stacked at least 6in above counter level. Plus at least half of the kitchen floor was just stacks of clothes that I couldn’t tell if they were clean or dirty and I know her bedroom looks the same as before with laundry everywhere and the laundry is all over the living room couch too.
I reflected on it and texted her the next day and composed a text that I tried to make empathetic. I asked her what I could do to help her get caught up on cleaning. I offered some suggestions that maybe I could take the kids so she had time and space to work on it, or even offered to come over and do some of the cleaning after the kids went to sleep. I stressed that I was just bringing it up because I cared about the kids safety and wellbeing and that if it weren’t for them I wouldn’t be bringing it up.
She’s been ignoring my texts and refusing to respond to them. I texted her again today, not getting a reply from her yesterday, asking her to please acknowledge it.
My issue is that I don’t want to go the CPS route. #1 we are at a fairly cordial place in our interactions and coparenting and that would agitate that.
#2 I don’t want her to have to deal with them. This isn’t a judgement on her ability to be a parent, because I think she is a very good parent on all other fronts. And I can imagine it’s like a gut punch to have your coparent call CPS on you.
#3 I don’t think it’s willful negligence, it’s a mental health thing.
However, I know they’ve had mice before and I’m worried they’re going to come back.
Has anyone had to deal with a coparent with similar issues that have you concerns too?
I’m in Idaho, not sure if it matters, but at what point would CPS feel a visit was necessary? Would they come in say “you have a week to clean it up” then come back to make sure changes had been made?
Any advice on how I press the issue without it seeming like an attack?