It’s not an overreaction to be angry with the quality of our young talent on this team. From 2023 to 2025 Sean marks brought in 8 total picks, 7 of them first rounders. There’s probably 2 guys you can say are nba players on another roster in egor and Nolan. And I don’t care for the “oh it’s a crap shoot” bc the argument for bringing marks back post kyrie and kd was his ability to hit on those late picks. Most of the fanbase was very upset with us not only taking 5 picks last yr but also taking such wild card picks. It’s been a decade now and it’s not unreasonable for people to say it’s time for a new direction. There’s so many teams that are able to hit on and find talent throughout the league, why are we still committed to a GM who’s been here for a decade and has proven nothing. And Ik there’s the people who are loyalist to this front office and will call you insane for using your eyes but I pay my money to watch this bullshit so kick some fucking rocks.

I’m tired of everyone babying Simmons.

We need to bench his ass if he keeps playing like this. Literally he should be benched the ENTIRE GAME.

Babying him isn’t working. He was never this bad in Philly. Sure he had a play or two where he was afraid to attack the rim in Philly. But with the Nets he is doing this THE ENTIRE GAME.

BOY will i DIE on this hill called “KD Kyrie Harden would have won at least 2 more rings (excluding damned 2021)”

KD would’ve had FOUR FMVP and 4 rings Kyrie would’ve had 3 Harden would’ve have 2 Clax would’ve had at least 1 DPOY Cam might win a sixth man of the year award

not to mention royce and yuta.

damn we had a squad i’m not even lying id die on this hill.

joe should’ve paid up.

Jack Vaugne was doing wonders with this team. anyone remember that 12 game win streak where they lost to the bulls after that?

I really thought after 2023 the Stans would’ve left but they’re still here. Panicking and ready to tear everything down after one game is just absolutely ridiculous. And can someone explain to me the dichotomy of saying “Sean marks needs to be fired” but also saying “Sean marks needs to make a trade”. Like if you don’t trust him to construct a roster why would you want him trading away valuable draft picks? Seriously people need to relax. Teams don’t suddenly jump to playoffs/contender status overnight. The team played bad last night give it time they’re going to be a 30 ish win team this yr. I honestly think a lot of you lack patience

Egor was forcing things all game. After being hyped up all offseason, he looked like he wanted to come out and go nuclear in game 1. He took some bad shots early, missed, and got out of rhythm. That spiraled into overall bad decision-making. It happens. He’s young but he’s not a low IQ player.

Same with MBJ to a lesser degree. Had a few nice plays early, then got overconfident and started making bad decisions. Nolan missed a few bunnies early on and just never found a rhythm.

They had jitters. It’s normal. When your point guards are all this young, your offense will go through spells where they have difficulty creating open looks. But you don’t throw the babies out with the bath water and these guys are literal babies in NBA years.

It’s times like these where I’m thankful we have Randle to play point forward and steady the offense. He and MPJ can keep the Nets afloat while the young guys figure things out.

The big concern is Sharpe at center. He’s just too short to anchor the defense and 7-footers can just catch lobs right over him. He’s a great rebounder, but that doesn’t matter if taller dudes can grab the ball before it even reaches him. I would give Grant Nelson a look sooner than later if we can’t find a true center to match up.

Bro I can’t believe I paid money to go to this Nets game with my Dad, brother and cousin and we get blown out by 27. They quit halfway through the 3rd quarter! WTF! I thought this team could win 30 games. I don’t think I was expecting a lot, but now I’m worried if we can even it 20. I know it’s only been 3 games but this is so damn worrying. I used to be one of the guys saying let Marks cook, but everyone he drafted besides Egor, Mikel, and maybe Nolan is looks terrible. I was so hyped this whole offseason but it only took 3 games to make me worried for the future of the team

Kyrie Irving admitted in his own words that he was immature, not committed, and that Kevin Durant was the one who wanted Steve Nash and claimed to be “his guy.” But somehow, Nets fans still find a way to defend this man like he’s the victim in all of this?

Let’s break it down.

For those who don’t know, Kyrie was on stream last night and said he was immature at 28 years old. Not 20. Twenty-eight !! This is the same guy people in Nets spaces were screaming to defend, idolize, and blame the franchise for letting go. He basically said he was never committed. He said KD was behind Nash. All the narratives Nets fans have pushed for years to blame the front office or excuse Kyrie's mess have been blown up by Kyrie himself.

All those hours wasted in Twitter Spaces debating and arguing, all for a guy who just admitted he didn’t even take it seriously.

And y’all still cape for him?

I genuinely do not understand how this man has fans left. I don’t get how he’s still being defended, especially by Nets fans who he left in the dust. The same guy you twerked for basically laughed in your face and said “Yeah, I wasn’t really serious.”

But that’s your king, huh?

From the first day the Big 3 came together it was about one thing. Winning the Ring. Everyone had to sacrifice. Harden had to sacrifice his scoring. KD had to sacrifice and focus more on defense. Kyrie had to sacrifice the spotlight and having the ball in his hands. Everyone was focus on the same thing. And it was BEAUTIFUL.

It all changed when Kyrie decided not to get vaccinated. It was no longer about the Ring. It was now about forces OUTSIDE the Nets. Kyrie himself said he isn’t against vaccines. He didn’t take it out of protest. He wanted to give a voice to the voiceless. Those are his words. Kyrie was willing to sacrifice and abandon his brothers for workers who got fired that he never talked to.

So now Kyrie and team have different goals. Difference priorities. The locker room was fractured. Multiple players including Bruce Brown admitted this. It was no longer about the Nets. Now it was about political issues and social issues. Winning and losing was no longer important. You cannot win a championship this way.

This distraction was obvious. The fact is the team played WORSE when Kyrie returned. Before he returned the Nets were a top 1 or 2 seed.

I’m not here to hate on Kyrie. But this is just human nature. When one of your ‘brothers’ is more concerned about protesting mandates than the team it puts a damper on everything. Why should I sacrifice? Why should I claw and scratch and put everything on the line to win? When one of my ‘brothers’ by choice abandons us?

The spirit of this team is broken. To win championships you need everyone on the same page. Everyone has to sacrifice. Frankly Kyrie isn’t willing to do so and he is destroying morale.

Every time the team gets some type of momentum with Kyrie playing it gets stunted. We beat the Bucks. Then he’s gone for 2 weeks. Its totally ridiculous and unfair to the other players.

Bottom line is the entire team sacrificed except Kyrie. I can guarantee you that many Nets players didn’t want to take the vaccine. But they are part of something BIGGER than themselves. But Kyrie thinks he’s BIGGER than the team.

I see a lot of irrational unhinged takes from Nets fans who are acting like Washington, Utah, or Charlotte won the lottery. They didn't. A team that made the play-in did. Tanking doesn't work especially with this weighted lottery. I'm tired of fans who just want to endlessly lose, who are terrified of trying to win. I'm aware of the realities of free agency, etc. I get it. But I'm ready to try to win and in Marks I trust

Let's be happy for our boy. Dude was nothing but a class act for us. I love that he is shining in these big moments. Dont get me wrong, knicks overpaid, we got a haul for him, and I'm glad we made the trade. He's the 3rd option on a championship level team. That's who he is. We didn't need that right now. No need to victory lap when he plays bad, and there is nothing wrong with appreciating him when he plays well.

I tried to watch the game yesterday, and I checked out at halftime. Not because it was a blowout (because it wasn't at the time), but because we're just so fckin boring.

The team has no sauce, no sizzle, no pizzazz, no flavor, no NOTHING. We only score by getting lucky breaks, and even then, we'll mess up.

And defensively, we just allow pretty much anyone to do whatever they want. No urgency, no scrapiness.

The Nets, for the past few years, just seem so averse to dunking. I love dunking. Who doesn't love dunks? We don't dunk. Our personnel is hilariously unathletic. Our fast breaks are slow jogs.

I guess to sum it up would be this... If you're gonna be a bad team, at least be entertaining to watch. I can watch losses if I enjoy the basketball I'm watching. But I can't watch unathletic, lazy, low-IQ players ooze garbage all on the court.

At that point, what exactly am I rooting for? What tf are y'all rooting for?

Since the Nets waived Cam Thomas and he dropped 34 with the Bucks last night, I’ve seen a lot of Nets fans on Twitter taking a victory lap or going back and forth about it. So let’s just talk about it honestly.

First off, I don’t hate Cam Thomas. I don’t dislike him. And I genuinely wish him well. But it was the right move for the Nets to move on.

Everyone knows Cam can score. That has never been the debate. When he drops 25 or 30 points, no Nets fan is shocked. He’s always been able to get buckets. That was never the issue. The issue was everything else.

There was no real improvement in playmaking. And I’m not talking about minor stat bumps. I’m talking about actual growth as a creator for others. It never really came. The defense was inconsistent at best. The off ball effort was questionable. And the attitude and body language at times did not help his case.

At some point, when a player continues to show the same flaws and there’s no willingness to expand their game, teams move on. That’s just reality.

And here’s another thing people ignore. If the league valued him the way his stans say they do, why was there no real market for him? Why didn’t teams give him a real contract in the summer? Why weren’t teams lining up to trade assets for him? The Nets “not getting assets” isn’t some shocking failure. It reflects how the league views him. He’s a scoring specialist. A box player.

When Nets fans suggested he’d be perfect in a sixth man role, just come off the bench and give you 15 to 20 points like a Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Norman Powell, Bones Highland type, people got offended. But that’s not disrespect. That’s a valuable role in this league.

Even Doc Rivers just compared coaching him to coaching Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford. That’s literally what many Nets fans were saying. There’s nothing wrong with being an elite microwave scorer. But you have to embrace it. Cam never really embraced that role.

He had multiple coaches. Steve Nash, Jacques Vaughn, and Jordy all gave him opportunities. Different systems, same issues. That tells you something. At some point it’s not about the coach.

Meanwhile, the Nets right now are developing young guys who are actually expanding their games. Nolan Traore putting up efficient double doubles. Egor flashing with multiple 20 point games even if he’s still inconsistent. Danny Wolf starting to look more comfortable. Drake Powell showing flashes. Noah Clowney continuing to grow.

The team looks more connected. The ball moves better. The focus is on development, not isolation scoring bursts.

Again, Cam dropping 34 is not surprising. He can score. But one big scoring night does not erase the bigger picture of why the Nets moved on. Wish him well. But the move made sense.

People keep claiming that fans are being unrealistic bc they wanted a great record. I thought this team would win 30 games this yr and I still think that’s reasonable. My issue and the issue a lot of fans have is how the young players are performing. Egor doesn’t look much like how he did in summer league (it’s early and that was SL but we wanted to see much more growth in the paint), Traore has looked ok, the other 3 from that draft don’t have a role in this team consistently, Noah clowney is pretty much the same, 2 of the rookies we drafted this yr are in the g league and Mikel is on a mins restriction.

We’re just looking at this roster and saying what kind of core is being developed. You look at young teams like the hornets, mavs, grizzlies, wizards. Not even getting into he elite young cores in OKC, San Antonio or Houston. We’ve invested our time money and energy into this team and people have a right to want a reasonable ROI. We should be seeing more progression. We’re not asking for a much where are the role players future starters,.

I am going to be honest. I was very upset about last seasons results. I was upset about falling to the 8th pick and I was upset on draft night. I have always believed that a top pick is franchise altering, especially for a team trying to rebuild. We have not had a real lottery pick in years, and I thought that was the only real path forward.

When we drafted this rookie class, I did not love it. I thought they were talented, but I did not see any obvious future star and I was convinced we had to make up for it in the next draft.

But watching this team play has completely changed my perspective.

Jordi Fernandez is a real coach. This team has a real system. They play hard, they play physical, they do the little things but the main part to me is that they play as a connective unit. The fact that the Nets have been the best defensive team in December still does not feel real.

What really stands out is the development. Egor flashes real upside. Nolan, Danny and Drake are becoming true winning players by doing all the little things every night. Ben Saraf is putting up good performances in the G League and his development will be fun to watch. These rookies might not fill the stat sheet or win awards, but they are learning habits that actually translate to wins.

And it is not just the rookies. Noah Clowney has taken a real step forward. Day’Ron Sharpe continues to improve. Cam Thomas keeps growing. Even Ziaire, when he plays, looks more confident. Everyone on this roster has an edge.

On top of that, Claxton and MPJ are having career years under this coaching staff. That alone gives me confidence that this staff can get value out of anyone, no matter where they pick.

At this point, I honestly do not care where we pick. Because when you have an elite coach, a real system, and real development, you can get value out of anyone. This organization is finally building something real.

And I am going to root for it. Wherever the cards fall, they fall.

I firmly believe this whole heartedly. Jarret Allen gave us rebounding and defense. He was a bit presence in the paint that could've helped us in the playoffs. And it saddens me that as soon as we traded Allen he goes on to have a all star caliber season. And he's having a pretty incredible season right now. We desperately could use Jarret Allen. Not only did we trade him we traded him for harden who lasted like what a year? That's Lowkey the worst trade the nets have done since the kg and Paul Pierce trade. I also think it's time to move on from KD and Kyrie. Especially Kyrie the told has completely slipped into madness. This whole thing has been so insanely depressing as a nets fan.

Last night, I was 100% convinced that Sean Marks gave his little brother the controller. I did my best to reserve judgement (the guy is most definitely a better GM than me lol), but in the back of my mind I had some doubts.

But looking at the overwhelmingly negative reaction from the media, the contrarian in me says this is going to be an amazing draft for us. Fuck the haters, we cooked (maybe)

It's cool that they like us, especially the Suns since every other post here is from them, but can this stay a Brooklyn Nets sub?

I got Suns fans in my DMs trolling me for saying trade ain't gonna happen a year ago. I don't need them here now talking about the twins and how great they are.

This is no Mikal and Cam Johnson sub for the Suns, this is supposed to be a Nets sub for Nets fans. Can it please be like that?

This team can not be half pregnant. This is the absolute worst defensive team I have ever seen and I’m 25 years old. No heart and no motivation at all. Complete embarrassment. I’m so disgusted right now.

We’re 6th in odds. It’s not the end of the world even if we’re picking 8th on draft night marks should be able to find a great piece to add to this teams future whether its KOn or Khaman from duke, fears, the Richardson kid, etc. If the nets went 0-82 they’d only be guaranteed the 5th pick (which btw the worst record in the nba has gotten the 5th pick in most of the yrs with this new lotto system). The constant freakouts and panic attacks from nets fans online is simply insane. If you walked into this season expecting cooper Flagg when at best you’d have 14% odds you’re simply delusional. Even if you expected a top 2 pick you’re delusional bc the odds just weren’t there in your favor. Like give it a rest. And it’s coming from people who claim to be logical in the Nets community as well. Let it play out and see who we get

I typically like the locked on nets guys but their latest video to me is way off base. This idea that the nets are “messing up their tank” that’s going around social media is kind of an exaggeration. Yes historically picking towards that top 3/4 picks means you’re more likely to draft an all star. But I think what people are often missing is that it really comes down a lot to how good the GM is at drafting and how well the coaching staff is at developing players. There’s a reason why most top 5 picks in the last 25yrs or so haven’t led their teams to titles that drafted them. Think about how many blown picks the pistons had before recently or the pelicans or hornets. Or even how the Cavs ruined much of lebrons early yrs or how the sixers process flipped due to poor team building and leadership/coaching. I’d love to get the first pick in this draft but I’m not going to freak out if we’re picking 6th or 7th. I think our GM knows how to find talent and we’ll be fine. What do you guys think? I linked the video there too if anyone wants to check it out

https://youtu.be/IFcrQOkgLDA?si=AcAUj_tFOJ590FJk

If this doesn't confirm to every single NBA fan that the draft is rigged then I don't know what will. Utterly ridiculous. A team with one of the lowest percentages of getting the 1st pick in draft lottery history magically wins it after making one of the most mind boggling bone headed trades in NBA history. Like it doesn't get more rigged than that. This is unbelievable.

No wonder Nico went through with that trade because he already had a promise from slenderman that he was going to get Flagg. I'm about to crash out rn.

It comes down to this question. What’s his role on this team? He’s supposed to be a stretch 4, but he’s not that good of a shooter. He’s considerably below average at it. I’m looking at the other power forwards on this team, and they all just provide more. Randle is obvious. Minott is a considerably better athlete, defender, and a better shooter. Even Joshua Jefferson. I know he’s an older rookie, but I know at bare minimum he’s going to provide passing and defense that Clowney has yet to show.

I know it’s harsh, but unless he takes big steps forward this next season. I don’t see the point in extending him.

Nate Ament wouldn't be my first choice at No. 6. MBJ is still my number one target if he is available where the Nets are currently slotted. But the way some Nets fans talk about Nate Ament is honestly getting ridiculous.

Ament is a really good prospect. We are talking about a 6'10 shot creator who draws fouls at an elite rate. That is one of the most translatable offensive skills a young player can have. The shooting numbers do not concern me nearly as much as they seem to concern everyone else.

Look at what the Nets development staff did with Egor. Brooklyn clearly puts a huge emphasis on shooting development, ball movement, spacing, and decision making. At some point this front office and development staff deserve some benefit of the doubt when it comes to improving players weaknesses.

Ament fits exactly what the Nets seem to value. He is a big wing who can handle the ball, create for himself, get to the line, and make plays. And he is 6'10.

What fascinates me most is not even Ament as an individual prospect. It is the kind of team Brooklyn could put on the floor if he hits. Imagine a lineup featuring Egor, Ament, MPJ, and Claxton. You are suddenly looking at a group where basically everyone is 6'8 and above. That is a massive amount of size, length, and versatility.

People keep focusing on the shooting numbers, but I keep looking at the physical tools and the upside. Players with that combination of size, ball handling, shot creation, and foul drawing ability do not grow on trees.

And that's where roster construction gets interesting. If you have that much size, suddenly you can afford to target players like Austin Reaves without being overly concerned about defensive limitations. Having multiple long, switchable wings around him can help cover a lot of that up while still maximizing what he brings offensively.

If Brooklyn ends up drafting Ament, I genuinely think he has a chance to become Sean Marks best draft pick in a long time. Personally, I think he is a better prospect than any of the five players we drafted last year.

Let's get one thing out of the way. Taking Egor at 8 was a questionable decision. Seems like they could have traded back, got some assets, and would still have been able to draft Egor. But they got their guy and they see him as the best player that was available at #8. On the bright side, they drafted the best passer in the draft. By far. A guy who may have been seen as a top 5 player had he stayed in Russia instead of playing a year at BYU in a system that didn't showcase his strengths. Players can improve their shooting with hard work. And Egor has demonstrated hard work to be one of his largest strengths. Egor Demin with a jump shot has the potential to be the second best player in this draft class.

Now moving on. Nolan Traore was a top 5 guy until he struggled at the very beginning of his first professional season overseas. But he didn't let that get to him. He kept on playing his game and eventually improved little by little till the end. And throughout his "struggles," we still saw everything that made people fall in love with his game in the first place. This guy's the real deal and a fucking steal at 19.

Drake Powell is a more athletic Carter Bryant.

Ben Saraf was the best player on a professional team that came 1 game away from winning the championship this year.

Danny Wolf is a 7ft point-center with possibly the best highlight reel of anyone in this class. He's not nearly as bad a shooter as people think he is. And there are several high level scouts who thought the same thing but were too afraid to draft somebody with such a unique profile.

To summarize, I gave the Nets the second best grade this year in the draft and was shocked at how they were graded by the big guys. Drafting 5 guys that can pass is not a knock. As good as a passer Nolan Traore is, he could easily become a hell of a combo guard. At a minimum, he could play alongside any of the other guys they drafted and it wouldn't be a matchup issue. Danny Wolf is a center. Drake Powell is dope. And Ben Saraf is flat out a good fucking basketball player who actually does have a similar profile to Egor. And I don't get why that's a bad thing.

EDIT: Because of a few of the replies here, I want to clarify that I am not a Nets fan. I've never been a Nets fan. There is no copium, I have nothing to cope with. My disaster class team drafted Cooper Flagg. I sincerely love the Nets picks.

Really makes me sad that a blueprint exists for beautiful, ball movement/player movement and winning team basketball that KD and Nash were part of for years, and yet we play like the 2010’s Thunder with less talent.