r/theunforgiven • • 19h ago

Gameplay Lion overcosted or Guillaman undercosted?

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In comparison to rules to Guillaman the main leg up lion has is the 3+ invuln, mortal wound FNP, and uppy downy. Granted Guillaman is the author of the codex but he has debatably better shooting, melee and unit support given all units not just ultramarines within 6” reroll 1s to hit and wound on ranged and melee. Where Lion only supports what 3-4 units and whatever dark angel character units you have. Lion is just a 415 melee bomb but at that rate could just run so many other units to fill that role. At that rate Guillaman is also a melee bomb with better strength and shooting. I just saw the comparison between the two and got upset about it but since guillaman is the big boss I guess it makes sense but it’s a bit deflating looking at the comparison.


r/theunforgiven • • 19h ago

Gameplay Lion overcosted or Guillaman undercosted?

6 Upvotes

In comparison to rules to Guillaman the main leg up lion has is the 3+ invuln, mortal wound FNP, and uppy downy. Granted Guillaman is the author of the codex but he has debatably better shooting, melee and unit support given all units not just ultramarines within 6” reroll 1s to hit and wound on ranged and melee. Where Lion only supports what 3-4 units and whatever dark angel character units you have. Lion is just a 415 melee bomb but at that rate could just run so many other units to fill that role. At that rate Guillaman is also a melee bomb with better strength and shooting. I just saw the comparison between the two and got upset about it but since guillaman is the big boss I guess it makes sense but it’s a bit deflating looking at the comparison.


r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Army List Hi everyone im a new 40k player and trying to finish my 2k points dark angels army.Rn I have lion, azrael, ravenwing command squad and black knights, 10 hellblasters ,10 intercessors , inner circle companions ,deathwing terminators and a lieutenant which is around 1495 points which units should I ad

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r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Painting How do I fix this?

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It might not be very noticeable, but the upper part is way too heavily saturated with wash. I liked how it was coming along at first, but I just couldn't achieve the same effect on the upper section as I did on the cuff or the left leg. I don't want to strip the paint off—and for those interested, I use Vallejo paints.


r/theunforgiven • • 4h ago

Misc. Company Organisation

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I’m fairly new to this hobby and have started building my greenwing 3rd company and love sorting them into fairly lore accurate squads;

1st squad - intercessors
2nd - infiltrators
6th - aggressors
7th - jump pack assault intercessors
8th - incursors
9th - eradicators
10th - hellblasters

I have put aggressors as battle line even though they are probably 9th/10th squad.

Would be cool to hear what anyone else has done with their organisations!


r/theunforgiven • • 18h ago

Showcase First dark angel kinda nervous

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r/theunforgiven • • 19h ago

Misc. Dark Angels Chaplain in Space Marine 2

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r/theunforgiven • • 54m ago

Meme/joke Dad Did Some Work Today

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r/theunforgiven • • 13h ago

Painting Alternate for caliban green?

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52 Upvotes

I am aware angel green by army painter exists. But I really like the cool dark bluish green look that caliban green gives. The only problem is I hate the pot system. Any alternates other than angel green?


r/theunforgiven • • 7h ago

Misc. Where to get this model

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So i’ve seen this model posted and seen the requirements to get it (being a WH+ subscriber) but i’m not sure when or how to get it? didn’t see it in the community post but id love to get my hands on it can any one lmk how?


r/theunforgiven • • 12h ago

Army List Eliminators good for anti T'au battlesuits?

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Equipped with las fusils of course


r/theunforgiven • • 21h ago

Painting Help me name him. CC welcome

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Little kit bash from a sword brethren kit . He’s going to be a captain of the 9th company. Help me name him and I’m looking for some painting feed back


r/theunforgiven • • 21h ago

Showcase Finished up some models for my DA successor homebrew

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Just wanted to show off my recent models for my DA successor, the Fell Blades

More stuff here:

https://www.instagram.com/fell_blade_minis/


r/theunforgiven • • 21h ago

Army List Thoughts on my list

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I’ve made more lists than I’ve played games so I’m not the most familiar with what makes a good list. I’m curious if this is viable.


r/theunforgiven • • 22h ago

Building Ancient for ICC

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Decided to kitbash my ancient a bit to make it fit the ICC squad better


r/theunforgiven • • 4h ago

Painting Two minis from my homebrew the Ashen Lions

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I like the grimy and dirty look when I'm painting.


r/theunforgiven • • 4h ago

Army List Help with 2000 pts list

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I've just started playing Dark Angels after a very long break from 40k.

I would like some advice for a 2000 points list I've tinkered with.

Space Marines - Dark Angels

Inner Circle Task Force and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Azrael (150 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Lion's Wrath

1x The Lion Helm

1x The Sword of Secrets

Hellblaster Squad (115 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Hellblaster Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Ceramite Fists

1x Plasma Incinerator

• 4x Hellblaster

• 4x Bolt Pistol

4x Ceramite Fists

4x Plasma Incinerator

Attached Unit 2

Captain in Terminator Armour (110 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Relic Weapon

1x Storm Bolter

• Enhancement: Singular Will

Deathwing Knights (255 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Deathwing Knights

• 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

• 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Attached Unit 3

Asmodai (80 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Crozius Arcanum and Power Weapon

1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Inner Circle Companions (180 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 6x Inner Circle Companions

• 6x Calibanite Greatsword

6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 points)

• 4x Intercessor

• 4x Bolt Pistol

4x Bolt Rifle

4x Knives and Fists

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Bolt Rifle

1x Knives and Fists

OTHER DATASHEETS

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (95 points)

• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack

• 1x Chainsword

1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 4x Assault Intercessor with Jump Pack

• 4x Chainsword

4x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 points)

• 1x Armoured Feet

1x Ballistus Lascannon

1x Ballistus Missile Launcher

1x Storm Bolters

Deathwing Knights (255 points)

• 4x Deathwing Knights

• 4x Power Weapon

• 1x Knight Master

• 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Terminator Squad (200 points)

• 1x Deathwing Sergeant

• 1x Power Fist

1x Storm Bolter

• 4x Deathwing Terminators

• 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher

4x Power Fist

4x Storm Bolter

Inceptor Squad (130 points)

• 2x Inceptor

• 2x Ceramite Fists

2x Plasma Exterminators

• 1x Inceptor Sergeant

• 1x Ceramite Fists

1x Plasma Exterminators

Redemptor Dreadnought (180 points)

• 1x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers

1x Heavy Flamer

1x Icarus Rocket Pod

1x Macro Plasma Incinerator

1x Redemptor Fist


r/theunforgiven • • 8h ago

Painting Dark Angels Captain WIP

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r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Painting Grand Master Belial and StrikeMaster with Relic weapon

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Really Love how This guys came out! I tried to kitbash Belial Closer to his old model. What do you guys think?


r/theunforgiven • • 13h ago

Building Give me your alternate poses for DWK

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I have 5 more to build, and I want them to be unique to these, but I’m fresh out of ideas


r/theunforgiven • • 16h ago

Showcase First 3-man ICC done!

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Tried a lot of new techniques for these guys! Very happy with my growth.


r/theunforgiven • • 17h ago

Army List What do you guys think about this ICC combo?

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Dark Angels 2,000pts (1 995 Points)

Space Marines
Dark Angels
Assault Brethren and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2 000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Azrael (150 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Lion's Wrath
• 1x The Lion Helm
• 1x The Sword of Secrets

Ancient (60 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Ceramite Fists
• 1x Power Weapon
• Enhancements: Imperium’s Sword

Inner Circle Companions (180 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 6x Inner Circle Companions
◦ 6x Calibanite Greatsword
◦ 6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Attached unit 2

Belial (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Master-crafted Storm Bolter
• 1x The Sword of Silence

Deathwing Terminator Squad (380 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 1x Deathwing Sergeant
◦ 1x Power Fist
◦ 1x Storm Bolter
• 9x Deathwing Terminators
◦ 3x Chainfist
◦ 2x Plasma Cannon
◦ 6x Power Fist
◦ 7x Storm Bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Incursor Squad (90 Points)
• 4x Incursor
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Occulus Bolt Carbine
◦ 4x Paired Combat Blades
• 1x Incursor Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Occulus Bolt Carbine
◦ 1x Paired Combat Blades

Land Speeder Vengeance (150 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Heavy Bolter
• 1x Plasma Storm Battery

Land Speeder Vengeance (150 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Heavy Bolter
• 1x Plasma Storm Battery

Outrider Squad (80 Points)
• 2x Outrider
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Twin Bolt Rifle
• 1x Outrider Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
◦ 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Outrider Squad (80 Points)
• 2x Outrider
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Twin Bolt Rifle
• 1x Outrider Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
◦ 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Chainsword
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 3x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Missile Launcher

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r/theunforgiven • • 18h ago

Painting Land Speeder

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First new mini for my Dark Angels. Now to the Teeminators


r/theunforgiven • • 19h ago

Showcase Bladeguard vets for my buddy

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r/theunforgiven • • 19h ago

Painting Some wip shots of my Lion

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