r/physicianassistant • • May 04 '26

Discussion I moved from the US to practice in New Zealand: 4 month update and AMA

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Hello, all!

It’s been about 4 months since my family and I have moved abroad to practice as a PA in New Zealand. There was a fair amount of interest with my initial post, so I thought it would be good to provide a short term update for anyone interested.

First want to get some FAQ out of the way:

“What does getting certified abroad look like if I want to work in New Zealand, but I work in [US/UK/Canada]?”
As of now there are no talks to recertify. In theory you just find a job, apply for a visa, and you’re good. I’ve known other PAs that pick up, move, and start practicing abroad all within 3 months. That *may* change in the future, but I don’t believe it’s on the horizon. With that being said, as of November 2026 there are going to be changes that will affect those currently working and those who intend to immigrate thereafter. Under the proposed changes, you will likely be accepted under a provisional license that will require more supervision under a year or more, and thereafter your GP basically vouches for you where you can work under a “normal license.” This is all provisional, however, and it will change in the months to come.

“How do you find a job in NZ?”
I went through a recruiter; I would HIGHLY recommend going through her since she knows the PA landscape very well. DM if you want her info.

“I have [x] years of experience in [insert specialty]. Can I apply with that?”
Maybe. Most of the efforts right now seem to be focused on primary care/urgent care needs in smaller towns/cities and rural areas with bare minimum 3 years experience in those fields, but many preferring 5 years of experience.

“How much are you making now? Is it less than your US salary?”
Yes, it’s a pay cut. People immediately hear that and become nauseous at the potential for making less money, but it does not mean I am living on scraps. Living in a smaller town, my expenses have also gone down considerably. Our main expenses are rent, groceries, and travel (because we want to see as much as we can here). We’re not eating out nearly as much as we were in the States; we shop a lot less; we basically pay a small fraction of what we were previously paying for childcare (where before it was basically a second mortgage); we don’t have to pay for medical insurance. Those things add up considerably, and it really helps the money go further. With that being said, yes, I still make less, but I’m sustaining my family of 4 just fine for now on a single salary. It’s doable and it’s fine. Not to mention that there are so many perks here that positively affect my mental health, so that pay cut is still worth it for that alone. I can breathe easier here and my kids have a bright future.

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Four months in to this adventure, and I am happy to say that doing this move was the right choice. It has not come without its drawbacks or challenges, but I wake up happy every single day that I did this for myself and my family.

As soon as I walk out the door I am greeted by beautiful, green nature. This is a big deal of me as someone who has only ever grown up in the Sonoran Desert and has lived in large cities the past 15 years. Everything is green, there’s so much rain, and there’s truly peaceful moments (in between my two children screeching at each other). There’s also a warmth and friendliness to people here that I have not felt in a long time. It feels normal to give a little nod and a smile to strangers as you pass each other on the sidewalk. People here are generally happy and want to share their happiness with others. There’s definitely a strong sense of community here (so much so that at times it’s hard to establish yourself in a friend group because many of these friendships go back several generations). The people within my community are happy to invite newcomers in, and they’re particularly happy to know medical professionals are coming to town. On the other hand, though, you have to be careful not to come off as bragging of your profession since that is fairly frowned upon. There seems to be a stronger emphasis on equality, and humility.

There are other benefits as well. I don’t mean to make this into a political post - and I won’t - but a few months before we left the States my 4 year old was telling us about how his class and his younger brother’s class were practicing their gun shooter drills. It made me physically nauseous hearing that, and knowing we don’t have to worry about that any longer has brought me so much peace since I’ve been here. Not to mention that there are many other things here that make me think it’s a better environment for them, which could be its own post. Kids feel like they could be kids here. They are able to walk on the street alone or with their friends to a park, school, or a grocery store without any issues; it’s not uncommon for kids to be playing outside on their own without mom/dad having to watch them like hawks. This all stems from just being around a safer area where people take care of their own in the community, and you don’t immediately need to assume that stranger equals danger. Since moving here I have really noticed that my parental instincts have been trained to be on fight or flight and am retraining myself to
relax more, which is good myself and my kids. If my kid gets lost in a grocery store I can more or less count on someone else helping bring them back to me rather than kidnap them (not that that was a regular occurrence back in the US, but if you’re a parent you probably know what I mean). That’s not to say you can totally let your guard down, but it certainly feels more relaxed here in several aspects.

Speaking of which, I feel like there are more outlets here for myself. Working as a PA here has its perks, but no matter where you go working in medicine will still feel stressful. However, now I at least feel like I have better ways to cope with that stress. Had a bad week at work? Doesn’t matter when the beach is just an hour away. Feel stressed? Cool, there’s a beautiful lake nearby that you can walk around to disconnect. Imposter syndrome got to you again? Damn, well I’m too busy riding my mountain bike to care right now.

Not to mention there seems to be a healthier relationship with work here. I’m actively encouraged to take my breaks (which I get two a day), get out on time, and if I ever want to work less it’s never an issue with management. I feel like they would get excited if I told them I only want to work 32 hours per week (too bad my finances wouldn’t allow for that 😅). They genuinely care about my wellbeing and want to make sure I don’t burn myself out.

Now for the clinical bits, which may interest you all more.

Working as a PA here is definitely not what I was doing in the States. As of now we don’t have prescribing rights, nor can we order our own tests, so everything I do has to be signed off by my GP. In practice it doesn’t matter a whole ton, because my supervising GPs know me and my clinical decision well enough to where they just sign off on my orders, and every once in a blue moon they might recommend a change in plan. This may change in the future, though, as we are continuously advocating to get those prescribing rights, and we have a core group of physicians that are helping in achieving that as well.

Which brings me to my next point: the PA profession is fairly controversial here amongst physicians here. New Zealand is part of the commonwealth, and as such there is a fair amount of overlap between the UK and New Zealand, including how PAs are viewed. The recent drama in the UK with PAs has leaked here as well to the point where you have an outspoken group of physicians - particularly residents - advocating against us. Since our profession was made official through regulation in 2026, PAs are not going anywhere, but it does remain to be seen what our scope will be in the next few years. Personally, however, I can say that all the GPs I work with in my clinic have been nothing but wonderful and incredibly supportive of PAs.

Patients are gradually learning about what PAs are, and once I explain to them who we are, what our role is to improve access to care, and how we work as a team with GPs they are usually very receptive. Given that New Zealand’s healthcare system is fairly strained, patients are very pleased to hear more medical professionals are practicing here. I have also found the patients population to be rewarding to work with. In the US there is a fair amount of distrust in the medical system, which to be fair I don’t necessarily blame individual people for it. Here, however, people are more likely understand you have their best interest at heart and are more likely to take your recommendations seriously. It makes the patient-provider relationship much more fulfilling and rewarding.

Speaking of which, learning how to work in the New Zealand system is very different than the US. On one hand it’s incredibly refreshing not having to worry about prior auths, or insurance denials, but on the other hand, having wait times of up to 12 months to see high demand specialists and not being able to order your own CTs or MRIs within a primary care setting can be fairly limiting. This is a complete speculation, but I think this largely originates from a supply and demand issue: we just don’t have the necessary number of radiologists available to help with radiology reads, nor do we have the necessary amount of specialists to take on the referrals. This will inevitably mean that many referral requests get denied with a note, “Sorry, we are at capacity, but it sounds like your patient has [X pathology], considering starting [X interventions]” which translates to PCPs managing a fair amount in primary care, not unlike other rural positions in the US. It’s ultimately a challenge that involves making judicious use of available resources to prevent overburdening an already stressed system.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was insightful. I am happy to answer any questions you all may have. If I can convince more of you to come practice primary care here I would be happier for if, but if not I’m also happy to have you tag along and experience this vicariously. 😁

I will also include some pictures I have taken during my travels.


r/physicianassistant • • Nov 10 '21

Finances & Offers ⭐️ Share Your Compensation ⭐️

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Would you be willing to share your compensation for current and/ or previous positions?

Compensation is about the full package. While the AAPA salary report can be a helpful starting point, it does not include important metrics that can determine the true value of a job offer. Comparing salary with peers can decrease the taboo of discussing money and help you to know your value. If you are willing, you can copy, paste, and fill in the following

Years experience:

Location:

Specialty:

Schedule:

Income (include base, overtime, bonus pay, sign-on):

PTO (vacation, sick, holidays):

Other benefits (Health/ dental insurance/ retirement, CME, malpractice, etc):


r/physicianassistant • • 2h ago

Discussion Dealing with drama and pettiness in medicine

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I work inpatient with several other PAs for a subspecialty service, inpatient only. It’s a high complexity specialty and we constantly deal with consultants and have our own big team. Teams are made up of attendings, fellows, residents, other PAs, and various other roles including specialty nurses, pharmacists, etc. I will say, at least half of the other PAs, my groups’ attendings, RNs and pharmDs, I am extremely lucky to consistently get along with well.

Which brings me to what we could call “the other half.” PAs with shall we say more challenging personalities, residents and much less commonly attendings on other services with egos the size of the large charting room I spend half my day in (surrounded by colleagues)… it feels like some of these people are just constantly on the hunt to pick a petty argument, one up me in a way that isn’t helpful for patient care, or find an inventive way to be snarky in a chat they were added to where I thought I was previously free to talk candidly.

I’ve been a PA a long time. So I know navigating personalities while managing sick patients is as much of the skillset as knowing how to perform a difficult procedure or unravel a diagnostic dilemma. But unlike those things, which get easier with years of practice, there still are people who rub me the wrong way, no matter how many of them I’ve dealt with.

I work long shifts, and for the most part, having worked in many settings, I’d say I’m lucky to get along with people pretty well. But at the end of the day, a challenging personality can feel worse than a bad patient outcome, a day in the weeds, a mean patient and demanding family member all put together.

Share your advice, vent, victories, defeats, any and all thoughts on the matter. I want to hear it.


r/physicianassistant • • 6h ago

New Grad Offer Review New grad PA salary in bay area

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For new grad PAs working in the Bay Area, how much are you making, and what specialty are you in? How is your work schedule?
Thanks for sharing!


r/physicianassistant • • 10h ago

Simple Question IR PA Salary

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What are other IR PAs making and where are you located?


r/physicianassistant • • 9h ago

Simple Question Leaving a job after a few months due to toxic work culture.

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Anyone leave their job a couple of months in due to toxic work culture? How did you bring it with the interviewer for a potential job.

Cant deal with fellow APPs beefing around with each other, bullying nurses, etc. totally unprofessional, just hate coming to work having to see childish behavior.


r/physicianassistant • • 8h ago

Discussion New IM PA. Anxious/nervous

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I am a recently hired internal medicine, physician assistant. I did about six weeks of training with multiple physicians and APP’s. I am finally on my own and seeing patients on my own, but I seem to feel very anxious and nervous when treating them and sending medications. I tend to ask my APP‘s and supervising MD questions on most of my patients. I go home thinking if I sent the right medication or diagnose the right thing. I start second-guessing if I was correct or not. I tend to continue to look up charts and what I did just to make sure everything is ok at home. Is this normal? I have only been on my own for about a week and three days now. Anyone have the same experience or thoughts when they first started out?


r/physicianassistant • • 11h ago

Discussion Psych mentor

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Hi everyone!

I’ve been working part-time in outpatient psychiatry over the past couple of years and am looking to continue growing my knowledge and clinical skills. I’m particularly interested in strengthening my diagnostic reasoning, expanding my psychopharmacology knowledge, and gaining more confidence managing complex psychiatric presentations.

Ideally, I’d love to find an opportunity with a psychiatrist/PA who is interested in mentoring and teaching, whether through structured training, shadowing, collaborative case review, or a role with more direct clinical guidance and supervision.

I’m love to hear if anyone has leads on new positions or other opportunities that might be a good fit for someone looking to develop further in psychiatry.

If anyone has any recommendations, or works for a practice looking to hire/knows of a psychiatrist who may be open to mentoring, I would really appreciate it! Thank you!


r/physicianassistant • • 8h ago

Discussion New grad PA Credentialing Question

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r/physicianassistant • • 9h ago

Discussion Vascular Surgery

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I am a PA in Oklahoma. I work in Vascular Surgery. I have almost 1 year of experience. This was my first job, graduated in 2025. The salary is $132K with working 4-5 days per week. If I work the 5th day I get to file for an extra shift and that is $1000 per shift but it’s rare I do that because my 5th day is usually half a day.

I work inpatient, clinic, and surgery. I work with general surgery residents and that’s my favorite part of my job. I round with them bright and early in the mornings and then divide tasks with them.

I am just wondering thought of what other people in similar roles back throughout the US.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

New Grad Offer Review “New” grad no job depressed

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Almost a year out of school. No job. In an overly saturated PA city. Depressed. Hundreds of applications and resumes sent out. Contacted all preceptors. I am just at a complete loss. Is something going to happen for me? Is someone going to hire me? I feel so alone.

EDIT: people say to move. However, I just married my husband and we have started to build our lives here. We love where we live.


r/physicianassistant • • 16h ago

Job Advice Psych PA/leaving before 1 year mark.

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I’m a new PA and have been at my job for about 6 months but it makes me feel absolutely miserable (high acuity, surgical setting). I’m looking to transition into something more long term. I’m highly intrigued by psych. Psych PAs, how did you break into the field? It seems to be NP dominated.
For those of you that left a job in <1 year, how did you go about applying (ie:cover letters with explanation, updated resume, etc)?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

// Vent // Low ball offer

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I was looking for extra work and had an interview lined up. Was offered a full-time position even though I didn’t apply for it. Was told right away it might be lower than what I’m making now. I thought I would at least entertain it and maybe the lifestyle and benefits would be worth a little pay cut. Got the offer a week later ….they offered me 35k less than what I put as my minimum

Needless to say I will not be taking the offer. These hospital systems are something else smh


r/physicianassistant • • 17h ago

Job Advice Experience with USACS?

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I have been interviewing for an ICU position with USACS (about 1 year out of school w/ only ICU work experience) and was told yesterday they want to extend an official offer. I am awaiting the contract, but they did send me a generic contract.

The virtual/video interview went well and the doc I interviewed with was nice. The environment sounds like somewhere I'd enjoy and do well. It is night shift which will be an adjustment, but I think could be a decent fit. I know the benefits at USACS are excellent, and while I don't have what my official salary would be, the base salary is already pretty good and better than what I made at my last job. Only thing that is weird to me is there was no site visit, they jumped straight to an offer. Everywhere else I have interviewed always wanted a site visit, and I usually like to meet some of the other people I will work with including APPs, physicians, nursing, etc.

Overall:

- Those who have worked with USACS, did you like it?

- Would you request a site visit prior to signing the contract if everything else looks good?


r/physicianassistant • • 18h ago

Discussion Transitioning from outpatient FM to hospitalist work.

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Hi everyone,
I've been in FM for 3 years, mostly in FQHC/Rural health clinic settings in California. I enjoy FM. My gig is pretty chill so far. I'm still pursuing the NHSC LRP. My initial obligation is from 2025-2027, i have 1 year left . There is a possibility of extending for 1 more year in exchange for 20k (anticipate being done around 2028). Essential this would have taken my 198k amount of loans to sub 90k. I start making payment in Jan 2027 ~700/month.

I make ~ 150k salary + benefits, total comp around 170k. With the initial LRP it was a no brainer to stay. Let's assume the annual 3% raise + 20k LRP. With this in mind, do you think taking a hospitalist job for a higher pay ceiling and forgoing the LRP would make sense? Or wait until after 2028.

Also, would making the transition from outpatient FM to internal med/hospitalist work be difficult?

Just trying to consider all options.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Encouragement Reflections of the Beginning .

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Someone else was doing some reflection the other day and it made me sit down and think about my first big week in clinic.

I often joke at work that "I'm out here saving lives..." when in reality we know that's not true.

I'm very much in the infancy of being a PA, and there's some reflection that comes with that. I still ask dumb questions; I'm still slow in clinic and with my charting; I still bother the other providers to ask for consults, and there are still a ton of things that come up that I definitely should know but blank on in the middle of the encounter. That's a far cry from saving lives...

But I think about this week

- I was able to get a patient back to orthopedics to help fix his torn rotator cuff that he hasn't been seen for in over a year, so that he can play with his kids again.

-I helped get a Soldier medically cleared so that he can go to Officer Candidate School and start a new chapter in his career in the Army

- I got a patient in with a surgeon who can correct the deviated septum that's caused him to not breathe right for 10 years. He said he's just lived with it, and no one has ever offered to help with it.

These aren't groundbreaking medical treatments; I didn't save any lives, but I was able to play a part in changing their lives for the better.

And that helped me fight the doubt and gave me my why.


r/physicianassistant • • 21h ago

Job Advice Stay or go?

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I’ve posted a few times about this asking for suggestions, but to summarize, I’ve been working inpatient pulmonary for about two months now. I have about 5 1/2 years out outpatient pulmonary experience in a well known clinic in Boston. I left there about 4 months ago and moved back to Florida.

I have been struggling a little with inpatient, as expected however I am more comfortable now as the patient cases begin to repeat themselves and I begin to learn workflows. I’d consider myself to be working for an institution that has a better reputation for healthcare when compared to most south Florida facilities. As I had mentioned, every week I am with a new attending. Some allow me to do more than others, and some let me have a lot of autonomy and others none at all. I don’t mind the balance, because there is always something to learn, however having NO autonomy is not okay with me, because i have also rode solo, unless of course there is a patient that is complex or requesting to see the doc which is respected of course.

The issue here is that I’ve been asking for a few outpatient clinics a month (was told the current position I am in is a mix of outpt and inpatient) and I have yet to have any. I miss outpatient solely for the fact that I can get to know my patients better and keep my skills. I also don’t enjoy working with the one pulmonologist who doesn’t let me do anything and only utilizes me as a scribe. For now, I let it go, but it’s going to get to a point where I can’t anymore.

There’s a new position that opened up in this field that’s only outpatient and about 15 min closer to my house. Wondering if I should explore the idea and apply? Also the repercussions of this? Current employer finding out, “grass isn’t greener concept”

Thanks


r/physicianassistant • • 22h ago

Job Advice Advice for new PRN/ 1099 employee?

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Hello!

I put up a post yesterday with a question about new DEA license for a second state but realized I still have a few questions and I'm sure there's people with lots of experience and advice to share.

I recently accepted a PRN job offer for a telepsych company in a different state than where I currently practice family med.

Since it's 1099, they don't reimburse any licensing fees, or provide malpractice insurance.

  1. I am hoping for information/ advice on getting your own malpractice insurance
  2. tips for business expense tax write offs to be able to maximize my income from this second job (i do have a CPA to help me with this).
    do I technically need an LLC to be able to do this?
  3. With regards to 1099/prn work, what are some green flags and red flags of jobs you've come across?

With my full time W2 I have excellent retirement benefits, health insurance and license reimbursement for the state that I currently practice in.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice New grad in ICU, Idk what to do

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I'm a new grad PA working in the ICU at a Level 1 trauma center. The support has been great, and everyone has been welcoming and willing to help. I'm about 5 months into a 6-month orientation, and I'm honestly more stressed than I've ever been in my life.

I understand what's expected of me in caring for these patients, but I feel like my anxiety is getting in the way of actually learning. When coworkers give me advice or attendings teach during rounds, my mind just goes blank. I'm so stuck in fight-or-flight mode that even normal interactions feel difficult, and I struggle to retain information.

I've recently started an SSRI and PRN propranolol, which have helped somewhat. I'm also trying to manage my stress through prayer and exercise, but I'm exhausted even on my days off. I wake up worrying about work and haven't slept through the night in at least a month.

I know I need to study outside of work, but I get overwhelmed trying to decide what to focus on. Even when I do sit down to review something, I start thinking it won't make a difference anyway. I also moved out of my parents' house a couple of months into orientation, and I feel like I've struggled to find my footing ever since.

I'm honestly at a loss. I have a supportive team and a great learning environment, but I feel like my own anxiety is preventing me from taking advantage of it. I literally feel like I'm failing and not living up to how I interviewed for this job.

Has anyone else experienced this level of anxiety as a new grad? Did things eventually improve, or did you realize the environment just wasn't right for you? I'd really appreciate any advice.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Simple Question applying to positions within the system you currently work in..

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Hello! I am looking to switch out of family medicine (3 yrs straight out of school). While I will miss the continuity of care and coworkers, I need a better work life balance. Unfortunately where I am located, there is one major hospital system that owns majority of outpatient clinics and speciality clinics. The positions I am looking at/are available are all within the same system. Would it be awkward to apply to within the same system I work for without telling anyone? Would my boss be able to find out?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Simple Question Inpatient PAs do you experience a lot of pushback from nursing?

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I’m a PA working in inpatient acute care and I’ve been practicing for a year. I’m trying to figure out whether what I’m experiencing is normal, whether it’s because I’m still relatively new, or whether it’s an issue with my hospital’s culture.

I’ve been dealing with a recurring pattern of pushback from nursing staff regarding provider orders and treatment plans, including plans established by the attending during the day. There have also been delays in carrying out orders and instances where nursing staff make decisions regarding patient care without communicating with me first. Such as, refusing to give a medication that was ordered or increasing a patients supplemental oxygen significantly without telling me anything. Push back on getting an EKG in a patient with chest pain and/or tachycardia. Another example, I’ve had blood cultures drawn hours after they were ordered, including after antibiotics were already administered.

I’m completely open to nurses questioning orders when they have legitimate clinical concerns. I don’t expect anyone to blindly follow an order they believe is unsafe. My concern is when this becomes a recurring pattern that delays care or results in decisions being made without the provider being notified.

I’m planning to bring these concerns to my manager because I’m worried about the potential patient safety implications, but I’m curious about other people’s experiences.


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Discussion High earning PAs

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PAs that earn significantly more than their peers, what’s your salary and how did you get to where you are? I’m talking $250k-300k++

I’m a W2 employee at a private ortho practice and make $230-240k with salary + productivity. One of my coworkers made $300k. Our base is $135k so the productivity is lucrative. I feel like my job is one of those unicorn type positions but I’m curious if others have found similar?

I’d love to know what other high earning PAs specialty, work environments and pay structures look like. Also curious to hear from those with ownership experience or 1099 work.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

License & Credentials Second DEA license for a different state

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I tried looking at the DEA website regarding this but couldn't find a good answer.

I recently accepted a job offer to take on a PRN telepsych job in a different state. I have a DEA license for my current job.

Do I need to submit an entirely new application with the $888 fee, or is it considered a renewal?

Sorry if this is a silly question but I've only ever had one job since graduating and have no clue how to go about having DEA license for two states at the same time.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Simple Question ER PAs/NPs: Are you compensated differently for regional/multisite coverage vs. single-site providers

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I’m an emergency medicine PA working in a rural hospital system, and I’m curious how other organizations handle compensation and expectations for APPs who cover multiple emergency departments.

For context, I’ve been with my organization for approximately four years. I work in rural emergency departments, frequently with solo provider coverage, and have consistently helped cover multiple facilities throughout our regional system.

I’m genuinely curious how other hospital systems handle this:

  1. Do regional/float ER APPs receive a higher base salary, hourly differential, travel stipend, or mileage reimbursement?
  2. Are single-site APPs and regional APPs compensated on the same scale?
  3. If everyone is technically employed as a regional provider, is everyone expected to rotate between sites?
  4. Do your organizations provide additional compensation for covering facilities farther from your primary location?
  5. Have any of you successfully negotiated a regional differential or encountered similar resistance from leadership?

I’d especially appreciate hearing from rural emergency medicine PAs/NPs who work across multiple critical access hospitals.

I’m trying to determine whether my expectations are unreasonable or whether this is a fairly common issue across healthcare systems.