r/education • • 20h ago

What would you do?

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So I work in education in Europe.

I teach maths in middle school. One of my classes is quite difficult to teach. To give you idea in my country the students get devided into classes based on their educational needs.

Unfortunately there are new rules in my country to always put children in more higher level then they might be capable of. So for a part of the class following this level of math is difficult.

One of my students has unmedicated adhd and the primary school has put him in a too high level of education then his school results at the primary school said that what he would be capable to do. So not only the education level is to high for him but he also has behaviour issues. In my lessons his behaviour was this tremendously bad that after 7 warnings I had to remove him from class as I had to choose for the rest of the class to focus. I tried to keep him in the class room by at first non-verbal warnings and the last warning was “you show this behaviour. I want you to show this behaviour. If you continue then I need to send you out of the classroom. Choose wisely” the student continued and I had to choose for the other pupils as no one could follow the lesson, ask questions or could focus. I had to remove him from the room but he became very angry and verbally abused me. One of my coworkers was working in the hallway as she knew i had difficulty with this class and she got an hour without lessons. She quickly took him out of the classroom. Otherwise I am afraid that the kid also would have threw a chair at me. She brought the kid to the class mentor and told him the removal was 1000% on point and that I should have let him being removed more earlier and that I was more patient then she would have been.

The class mentor came to me with the student and said that the student wouldn’t face any consequences of being removed and he didn’t need to hear my point of view as the student was in his right. I didn’t felt seen, heard or even felt any support from my coworker. I told my manager and had a talk with my coworker. But I feel like the entire class since then got a free pass to behave badly in my class. I felt and still feel very unsafe teaching that class and I also feel that I can put consequences on behaviour but that it got more escalated. I also have the idea that the student feel like “oh I can do everything in her classroom, because if something happens my mentor will defend me.”

I now have the rule. Is your name on the board then you will come back after school to my classroom to exercise in good behaviour and to write summary of the chapter. But if this doesn’t help…

What would you do next? I feel like this class and this situation is burning me out. And I don’t want to get into a burn out etc. But I also don’t feel any support from management. So what would you do?


r/education • • 1h ago

School Culture & Policy should behavior scores affect academic scores? (or should it even exist in the first place?)

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I've had my share of bad experiencing regarding behavior scores, and I really think behavior should be completely separated with academics.

First of all, when a student has a final score of 90 on math in their final report, what do people think of it? They would think that this student has good mastery of the subject math, and not that they behave well in math class. If you were to make behavior affect this final score, would it still reflect the mastery of the given subject? I think it is really unfair to the students who master the subject better, because their scores do not completely reflect their academic capabilities anymore.

Second, scoring behavior of a student itself can be extremely biased. Each teacher would have their own standards of what gives good marks in behavior. I've even seen some teachers never giving their students full marks on behavior because 'nobody is perfect'. Then take in favoritism into the equation and this behavior score becomes even more biased.

Teachers might subconsciously (some even consciously) give better behavior scores to students who they are closer with. In this case, scores wouldn't be a reliable method of measuring a person's abilities anymore. This makes behavior scores not standardized, which is the opposite of what scores should be.

Last but not least, how flawless of a person are you to judge a person's character? Can you even say for sure this is their real behavior and not just a mask? I've seen many students act polite in class, but straight rubbish among their friends and parents. What's the point of the behavior score at this point if it doesn't even judge their true behavior? You would be scoring how good their appear in front of others/how good they are at deceiving people about how they look, instead of their genuine behavior.

I've seen this policy/rule sabotage bright students that are genuinely good at their studies, just because teachers don't see their effort. Teachers can only observe them at school, and yet they judge and give scores on their behavior, affecting one of the few things they can genuinely and honestly measure, which is academics. Even worse, a second, hidden purpose I've seen some teachers/principals imply of this behavior score is to help students that are struggling with their scores, so that just by showing good effort, their scores would be helped up.

What do you guys think of behavior scores?

edit: to add context here, this system is implemented in indonesia, and i just wanted your opinions about this. therfore, it might be abit different to the systems you guys would use in your countries.


r/education • • 22h ago

Why do schools put so much pressure on teenagers?

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I never understood why choices that we make as teenargers choose the path of our life.Like don’t brains only fully develop when we are 25?Why would grades that we get when we are still young matter so much?


r/education • • 9h ago

South Korea's AI glasses cases prove exam rules can't keep up with the tech, and policing devices won't fix it

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so South Korea's education ministry is now surveying every elementary, middle and high school after 2 AI glasses cases, one middle school and one high school in Seoul, both kids got zero on the exam. the glasses just look like normal glasses but they've got a camera and voice stuff in them.

and from the school side I just don't see how device policing works here. you can't search every kid's glasses before an exam, and you cant tell by looking if they're the smart kind or not. and banning all glasses would punish the kids who actually need them to see the paper.

so the fix has to be in the exam itself, not at the door. work done in the room, oral answers, problems solved where the teacher watches the thinking happen. if the exam only works when every device is dumb, the exam is the problem now, not the glasses