r/Shotguns • • Jan 24 '23

Thinking about buying your first shotgun or deciding on a new one? Here is the current /r/Shotguns buyer's guide.

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I've been around shotguns and this sub awhile. I decided to make a guide post and pin it to the top for those visiting this sub to read. A ton of posts here come down to common questions like "What shotgun do I buy at $ budget?" "Would this be good for my needs?" or "X vs Y shotgun." I'll try to give some suggestions here based on personal experience, community consensus I've seen over the years, and other points. However, this isn't the be all end all of information. I encourage you to research on your own. The comments are open to the community to critique anything they see, add other suggestions, ask for help, or make their own write up.

Before I get started, you should first ask yourself some questions about what this new shotgun will be for. Use case is important for what you will be buying. Are you hunting? What will you be hunting? Are you trap, sporting clays, or skeet shooting at a local range? Are you buying it for defense, or just blasting cans? Maybe both? Most importantly, what is your budget? You may also want something fairly capable for everything. Also, try and go out to a physical store and try the feel of different guns. How a shotgun fits you is important for hitting targets and comfort.

PUMP ACTION: Utilitarian, reliable, and fairly simple. It is a common choice of the sportsman and citizen looking to defend themselves. They can be had on a tight budget without sacrificing much quality. Be mindful and practice extensively with your pump gun as short-stroking is a potential human error that you need to train out of yourself so it doesn't happen in a stressful scenario.

Recommendations 1.) $200-250 budget. The only real option here that is a known quality budget pump is the Maverick 88. The security model will be good for defense. The field model will be an okay starter entry for casual clays or hunting. You can also get a combo deal which comes with both the 18.5" barrel and 28" field barrel that takes chokes.

2.) $250-500 budget. In this range the playing field opens up. The primary suggestion is going to be a Mossberg 500, which is basically just a less budget Mav 88. You could also opt for the Benelli Nova or Supernova if you prefer the fit, style, 3 1/2" chamber, or finish. Remington 870s used to be a mainstay of this budget, but since 2007 their quality control went far down hill. They recently went under and were reacquired last year reintroduced as "RemArms." Not much is known if quality has greatly improved as they have only recently started pumping out guns again. If you like the 870, hunt down an old 870 Wingmaster. [EDIT 2024: RemArms 870s have seemingly shown their quality. I would be okay with recommending them now if you want a new 870.] If you are feeling like a used older gun, Ithaca 37s, Winchester Model 12s, and more are available. Be aware some old guns and choke combos may not be a good idea for steel shot (a type of non-toxic ammo used for migratory bird hunting). If you want something defense oriented, pick a 18.5" barrel Mossberg 500 or a 590/590A1. Avoid guns without a stock, like the shockwave, for practical use.

3.) $1000+. If you are feeling exotic, you can get a Benelli M3. This is a hybrid design that is able to use both pump action or semi-auto. It's a bit of a novelty, but if you have a large budget, it's a worthy consideration.

SEMI-AUTO: Faster follow up shots, smoother recoil, and more expensive. The semi-auto is a favorable option if you can afford one. There are two main action options, gas vs inertia. Gas guns use some of the gas from the fired shell and use it to cycle the action. Inertia does not do this and is similar to recoil operated guns which means you have no gas system to clean. Both have their benefits.

Recommendations 1.) $450-700 (there is nothing worth buying below this). This is teetering on the edge of spending too little to get a quality new semi, but there are a few that may suit you. One is the Mossberg 930, another is the Stoeger M3000. These are the bare minimum I'd go for though they may be finnicky (EDIT 11/10/2024: as an example of why you may not want the M3000, especially for defense, watch this video on the M3000. It doesn't do well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7MiIUx7_E ) , both are available in tactical or field models. For used options, old greats like the Remington 1100, Browning Auto 5, etc are out there.

2.) $700-1000. In this area the default suggestion is the excellent Beretta A300. This is probably what you want on the clay field or out hunting if this is your budget. The Franchi Affinity is also a favorite of many and uses the inertia system (the A300 is a gas gun). If you want a tactical option in this range, the Mossberg 940 Tactical is a new offering that you can check out. The new Beretta A300 Patrol is another good new option to check out in this range if seeking a tactical or defensive style shotgun. For Women shooters: the Franchi Affinity does have an option called the Catalyst which has stock dimensions that are designed to be suited to women. But as stated earlier, try out the fit of options as most things aren't one size fit all for either sex even if designed with women in mind.

3.) 1000+. The sky is the limit here. Anything from Benelli, Browning, or Beretta in this range will be exquisite quality and a great option. You could pick up a M2, Super Black Eagle, A5, A400, etc for sporting uses and be happy. Though there are models in there that are more geared for clays vs field and vice versa, check out the manufacturer sites for details. For tactical options, the kings of them all are the Benelli M4 ($1600+) and Beretta 1301 ($1200-1300). Honorable mention to the Benelli M1 Super 90, M2 and M3 for defensive use.

OVER UNDER: A break action, stacked dual barrel, design that is widely favored by clay shooters and hunters across the world. Despite how they initially look, over under shotguns are more complex than semi-auto or pumps to make which makes them much more expensive for a quality one.

Recommendations 1.) Below $1000. I personally wouldn't get any new O/U under $1000. While you can find okay ones under $1k, they just aren't usually (YMMV) that amazing and you would be better off spending your budget on an A300 or save up further. The main problem is longevity and quality control, so if you are maybe just taking it out once in awhile be my guest to try out a CZ, Yildiz, etc Turkish import offering in this range. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. But you may get one that lasts. As far as used goes, keep an eye out for old used Browning Citoris or Mirokus as they can hover in the $900s. Japanese made Ithaca/SKBs are also common and decent used options. Others can chime in with their experience on sub-$1k O/Us.

2.) Over $1k. The default here is going to be the Browning Citori or Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon series. You'd be well served by basically any O/Us from either of those companies. It comes down to specific use and preference. There are other options out there besides those companies, but I will leave that up to you to research further.

SIDE BY SIDE: A break action, dual barrel, design that's a bit dated by now, but still enjoyed by many sportsmen. Side by sides have been outpaced by the O/Us in practical use, so you won't see very many new options nowadays.

Recommendations 1.) $300-1000. Like O/Us, side by sides are complex and cost a lot for good quality. The bright side is that their decline in popularity leaves a good amount of cheap used options that are out there. There are old field grade Ithacas, SKBs, LC Smiths, AH Fox, Parker Bros, Stevens 311s, AYAs, etc out there that can be found in decent working condition in this range. Of course there are higher grade examples that will go for more than this, but if you want just a working gun to take in the field these are good options. But google around how to inspect an old break action double barrel before you make a purchase of a 100 year old gun. As far as new production SxS go, there are cheap Turkish imports under CZ, Yildiz, etc. They aren't going to be top quality but there isn't much else new in this price range and generally you don't have to worry about longevity if you are only taking it hunting a few times a year. Plus, companies like CZ should take care of you if it fails under warranty.

2.) $1000+. Well here we get into fancy grades and great condition guns of makers already mentioned, more prestigious makers, etc. You can find things like used $1000 Browning BSS guns all the way to $200,000 Purdey and Holland & Holland guns. I'd expect a shotgunner with your budget and taste to look further into this in-depth realm as well.

SINGLE SHOT: A typically break action single barrel design that is pretty much the cheapest way to get into shotguns. While not something ideal for the clay ground or shooting tons of birds, they offer a utilitarian entry into the hobby whether it's chasing squirrels with a 410 or hunting turkey with a 10ga.

Recommendations 1.) $99-300. I personally suggest the H&R single shots. They are great and out there for cheap and are everywhere. Unfortunately they stopped being made a few years ago though, so you can't buy new. If you want new, there are various cheap single shots out there that will work fine for casual use. If it breaks, just go back to Walmart and buy another $99 single shot.

2.) $300+. If you want to be fancy and get something "high end" in this category there are the collectable Winchester 37s. Past that there are dedicated single shot trap guns and more that can go for hundreds or even thousands more.

EVERYTHING ELSE: Okay I know there are bolt action shotguns, lever action shotguns, triple barrel shotguns, etc. Those are mainly just novelties for a collector or outside the box hunter at this point. If you want one, look into them yourselves as this post is long enough already.

Well that's it. I hope it helped somewhat. Feel free to ask questions in this thread. Here are some other links that may be useful to you:

Guide to chokes: https://www.letsgoshooting.org/resources/articles/shotgun/understanding-shotgun-chokes/ You can shoot lead slugs through any choke safely, although a more open choke like improved cylinder is best. Also some modern full chokes are rated for steel. Older guns may not be.

Shot guide: https://www.wideners.com/blog/shotgun-load-types/

Guide to avoiding cheap tacticool shotguns mass imported from Turkey: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/n4zbt9/turkish_notsodelight_why_you_should_generally/

Guide to why pistol grip only shotguns are impractical: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/saharz/missed_shots_a_broken_nose_and_a_sore_wrist_a/


r/Shotguns • • May 06 '21

Turkish Not-So-Delight. Why you should generally avoid buying those random "totally cool looking" cheap tactical shotguns made in Turkey. (Crosspost as this is relevant here too and for those not on r/guns)

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r/Shotguns • • 13h ago

Rearranging some cabinets and took a group picture. Unchopped for life.

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FN Superposed
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Belgian import “The Interchangable”
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Husqvarna Model 20B
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J Cruickshank & Son
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Westley Richards Gold Name
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AH Fox Sterlingworth
Parker Trojan
AH Fox A Grade
BSW Model 35
Geco Model 34


r/Shotguns • • 7h ago

The Dumpster Darling

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Long story short, old job of mine was run by a rich douche with no care for anything. Guy cleaned out his dad's house and emptied the garage remnants in the huge dumpster at work. One thing included was a rusted, stuck solid 1897 Takedown, from 1912. I took it home, he didnt want it. Got it apart, made sure it was clear (it was). Years later its been sitting in my closet. Decided to play with it. Originally was a 30" full choke barrel, end of the barrel was in rough shape so I cut it to 18.75". Bore is shiny now! Just need to drill/tap for the original bead.

The stock was cut down at some point with a horrible rubber pad job, so I gave it some field medicine with a DIY rubber pad and some medical bandage (i think it looks cool until I can find a new stock for it)

Cleaned it up best as I could for now, tore the whole action apart and cleaned/lubed it. It is butter smooth! Test fired a few rounds of bird shot, shot great. Put a couple rounds of winchester 00 buck through it today at at yards and im quite happy with the spread.

I dig it so far, its been a fun project.


r/Shotguns • • 14h ago

Put one of my canoe guns to use this past weekend

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Ithaca 37 Synthetic Defense in 12 gauge (3") with a factory 14" DS Police Special Barrel


r/Shotguns • • 4h ago

Best Upland 20ga?

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Hey all,

Currently using my newborn daughter as an excuse to buy a 20gauge (she’ll eventually need her own, right?)

I’m not a competition shooter but I do run upland frequently behind my dog and my current shotgun - a 12 gauge Benelli Ethos.

I’m leaning 828U simply because I love my Ethos. I happened to get my hands on a Silver Pigeon the other day and it was unbelievably nice and made me think.

What other options should I be looking into?


r/Shotguns • • 17h ago

Not sure why I needed this! ...but I did!

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Gotta break in some clips with this new ammo... what a toy...


r/Shotguns • • 6h ago

Thoughts?

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Just wanted to see what people think about this style stock? Any advantages or disadvantages to having a pistol grip? It Would be used on home defense Maverick 88. I do like the adjustable stock that works for my wife 5'4" and me 6'1".

Any advice is appreciated!


r/Shotguns • • 11h ago

Slug Gun : Mossberg 500 Field/Deer vs Winchester SXP Extreme Deer

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Hey guys, just picked up a Mossberg 500 Field/Deer specifically for a slug gun with the rifled barrel. While I was at the store I looked at the Winchester SXP Extreme Deer with the pistol grip. The Mossberg was on sale for $650 from $750 and (I did not know this until after already purchasing the Mossberg) that the SXPwas on sale for $680 from $815. The 500 comes with a field barrel but I will not be switching barrels out as I have other guns for water fowl and turkey. Just looking for some input. Did I make the right choice? Should I return the Mossberg for the SXP? Bought on a whim with little research. Thanks for your help!


r/Shotguns • • 5h ago

I already have a Maverick 88 but I want a super cheap pump action/semi auto shotgun

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Any pump/semi guns that are so cheap I won't mind if they break or they're cheaper than a Maverick 88 but still a solid gun?

I've seen H&R Pardner Pumps for around $200 on Gunbroker


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Likely Unpopular Opinion: A lot of Barrel Chopping Won’t Age Well

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I’m really bummed to see so many of these classic shotgun barrels getting chopped down. I don’t care about folks doing it to modern production guns (eg: Mossberg 500s) but seeing it happen to so many classics, particularly the Auto-5s, sucks.

To be clear: I 100% support the rule change, but I think a lot of people are high on the “fun-new-thing”, fueled by social media, and are destroying a bunch of guns we’ll never get back.

I think in 40-50 years, people are gonna look at these chopped shotguns the same way we look at all of the sporterized 1903s, Mauser 98s, and Krags, and wishing we had more of them in their original configurations.

Ultimately: folks can of course do what they want with their property, but I think a lot of people are sacrificing potential heirlooms to chase a fad.


r/Shotguns • • 10h ago

Need help dating fun

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I just bought this sweet sixteen from my gun store and I think it’s older then they told me just wanted to know if anyone can help


r/Shotguns • • 13h ago

How can I attach a sling to my Benelli SBE?

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I’ve got an older super black eagle that is a work horse. I’d like to attach a sling so it’s a little easier to carry it into the marsh.


r/Shotguns • • 12h ago

I’m the market for a sxs

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I was hoping to get some help in my search for an older sxs preferably straight stock 20g with a double trigger. Something classic that can still handle modern shells. Any suggestions? I don’t really want to pay more than around $2500. There are so many older gun manufacturers out there and I’m a bit overwhelmed. Thanks!


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Advice/Experience needed.

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Welp. The Frankenstein 870 hit a roadblock. The Warnes vent rib mount will not hold up to repeated abuse with 3" magnum buck. It tried to walk off during a range trip yesterday and I don't want to burn the loctite off the screws and try again.

Does anyone have any experience with the Aridus industries CROM? (aimpoint T1 footprint)

Thanks in Advance.


r/Shotguns • • 6h ago

Dead Pair Club, a free map of ~1,500 US clay shooting clubs.

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

500 miles of fiberglass strand to make one barrel on a gun no one’s ever heard of, the Winchester Model 59

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Ask me anything!


r/Shotguns • • 9h ago

Magazine: Spm 12 vs honcho

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The Charles Daly Honcho vs SPM 12. Are the magazines the same / interchangeable

Thanks


r/Shotguns • • 11h ago

Savage 420 help

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What keeps this forend attached to the barrel? Good fit, it’s definitely the one that goes with the gun. Nothing looks broken but I can’t figure out how to latch the forend to the barrel.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Browning sweet 16

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Who can refinish this sweet 16 for me? Picked it up recently for a good price, and want to have it redone.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Enjoy some slow motion footage a Federal TruBall Deep Penetrator slug fired from my M590A1 impacting at 50 yards.

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Fallout 3 Chinese Assault Rifle custom furniture for my JTS m12ak. All hand carved as well as a welded and rust blued folding stock.

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

I cast fireball

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Winchester model 37 cut down to 9”. Slugs. Indoors. Flashbang. Way too fun.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Steven’s 5100 12 gauge

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Cottontail season is well underway in upstate New York so I broke out the 40’s era Stevens double barrel and vintage camo jacket for a rabbit hunt. it was a little windy out so I didn’t see any rabbits but it was still nice to get out for a walk on this beautiful afternoon.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Ended up with the weatherby element

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They sold the daiwa as I was walking in