r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 1d ago

šŸ“£ Gay Issues & Advocacy Gay and Lesbian Identity Needs Clear Boundaries. Here’s What I Mean.

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I’m tired of the suggestion that gay men and lesbians shouldn’t be allowed to define our own sexual orientation, maintain our own spaces, or discuss who our communities are intended to serve without being accused of gatekeeping.

So let’s be specific about what those boundaries actually mean.

1. Homosexuality is about sex-based attraction.

Gay men are men who are exclusively or predominantly attracted to other men. Lesbians are women who are exclusively or predominantly attracted to other women.
Our sexual orientation isn’t determined by political beliefs, gender stereotypes, clothing, personality, or whether we conform to traditional masculinity or femininity.

Same-sex attraction is a meaningful reality, and we should be able to describe it without being pressured to change our language.

2. Gender nonconformity does not automatically mean someone is transgender.

A feminine boy can grow up to be a gay man. A masculine girl can grow up to be a lesbian.
Neither needs to reject their sex or pursue medical transition simply because they don’t fit society’s expectations of masculinity or femininity.

Young people deserve the freedom to explore their personalities, sexuality, and gender expression without being pushed toward any predetermined identity or medical outcome.

3. Sexual boundaries are not discrimination.

No gay man or lesbian owes anyone romantic attraction, sexual access, or an explanation for their sexual preferences.

People can recognize and respect someone’s gender identity while also acknowledging that physical sex characteristics matter to some people’s attraction.

Consent includes the right to say no, without guilt, pressure, or accusations of prejudice.

4. Gay and lesbian spaces should be allowed to maintain a clear purpose.

Organizations, discussion groups, social gatherings, and support networks established around same-sex attraction should be able to keep that experience central to their mission.

That doesn’t mean other LGBT people are enemies or that every space must exclude people with overlapping identities.

It means a gay men’s group should be able to focus on gay men’s experiences, and a lesbian group should be able to focus on lesbian experiences, without constantly being expected to represent everyone.

5. Shared political interests don’t erase meaningful differences.

Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people can face overlapping forms of discrimination, but our experiences are not interchangeable.

Sexual orientation and gender identity are different concepts. We should be able to discuss those differences openly, including disagreements over terminology, healthcare, and public policy.

Solidarity should not require ideological conformity.

6. We should protect young people from both homophobia and rigid gender expectations.

A boy who is feminine shouldn’t be shamed for being feminine. A girl who is masculine shouldn’t be made to feel defective.

And neither should be pressured to identify as gay, straight, or transgender before they’ve had the opportunity to understand themselves.

Careful, individualized support matters. So does recognizing that some young people genuinely experience gender dysphoria.

7. Our community should allow disagreement without automatically treating it as hatred.

Gay men and lesbians should be able to question activist positions, discuss the meaning of homosexuality, and advocate for sex-based language without automatically being branded hateful.

Likewise, disagreement should never become an excuse to harass or demean transgender people.
We need room for serious conversations, not ideological purity tests.

Here’s my bottom line:

Gay and lesbian identity should remain meaningfully connected to same-sex attraction. Our sexual autonomy is nonnegotiable. Our community spaces should be able to maintain their intended focus. And our history should not be rewritten to suggest that homosexuality was ever simply about rejecting gender stereotypes.

None of this requires denying anyone else’s humanity or civil rights.

My question to other gay men and lesbians: Where do you believe the boundaries of our community should be drawn, and have we become too reluctant to defend them?


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 19d ago

🚨 Our Free Speech Community Is Under Attack

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Something is going on in this group, and I want everyone to be aware of it.

Someone appears to be mass-reporting comments indiscriminately, even the most harmless, ordinary remarks. It’s getting increasingly difficult to keep up with reviewing and approving all these reported comments.

I believe there are people who would rather silence this community than allow us to have open, honest conversations about gay men’s issues.

This is exactly why we created this space in the first place. Gay men deserve somewhere they can speak freely, challenge ideas, disagree, and have difficult conversations without constantly being shut down.

I’m doing my best to keep up with the reports, so please be patient if your comments get caught up in this.

We’re not going to let people intimidate us into silence. Keep speaking your minds, keep participating, and don’t let this discourage you.
Free speech means nothing if we’re only allowed to say things everyone agrees with.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 17h ago

šŸ›ļø Gay History Can we stop rewriting Stonewall history to fit modern political narratives?

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I’m tired of seeing gay men diminished or demonized in conversations about gay liberation. These men faced criminalization, police brutality, and discrimination, and many fought courageously for the freedoms we enjoy today.

Stonewall was a collective uprising. Gay men, lesbians, people of color, and gender-nonconforming people all participated and deserve recognition. But there’s no definitive evidence that trans people started the uprising, or that any one person did.

Why can’t we celebrate everyone’s contributions without turning history into an identity competition? Gay men were revolutionaries, and their contributions deserve just as much recognition.
Let’s celebrate our history instead of rewriting it to serve today’s political narratives.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 16h ago

šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ Gay Culture Growing up gay in the 90's

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 1d ago

What are your thoughts on the *mlm flag (male-loving-male) flag

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*Not multi-level marketing. Sorry, gay Amway Bros.

I quite like the colors. They're cooling, cohesive, masculine, and aquatic.

And when you compare it to the cacophony that the main rainbow flag has become, I'm not surprised that younger gay men seem to favor it. Thoughts?


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 1d ago

Se un Hombre competente

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El mundo gay tiene un problema ahora y es la falta de hombres competentes, hombres sin inseguridades, con inteligencia emocional, con ambición, astucia y liderazgo, pero sobre todo con valores, principios y una ética acorde a nuestra naturaleza como hombres gays que somos.

Hemos estado demasiado tiempo dormidos por culpa de la sociedad heteronormativa, que ya no vemos las problemĆ”ticas reales que estamos afrontando…

Una gran parte del los homosexuales ven el mundo desde la cosmovisión heteronormativa, sin siquiera saberlo, y mucho menos sin saber que eso nos hace daño. La verdadera cosmovisión que debemos tener es la nuestra, nuestra cosmovisión homosexual, es la forma correcta en la que debemos ver el mundo, y por qué?

Porque la cosmovisión es la forma en la que percibimos el mundo que nos rodea (la realidad) y en base a eso tomamos decisiones en la vida y la acosas nos afectan de maneras distintas lo que a su vez motiva muchos estados de Ônimo en nuestra vida, por eso ver el mundo desde la cosmovisión heteronormativa, nos afecta de manera negativa, constantemente, por eso enfrentamos altas tasas de suicidio, drogadicción, trastornos, traumas, entre otros.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 1d ago

šŸ“£ Gay Issues & Advocacy Are We Confusing Gender Nonconformity With Being Gay?

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I recently came across an organization called Genspect that raises some interesting questions about gender identity, sexuality, and medical transition.

It got me thinking about gay boys growing up. Many of us struggled with masculinity, gender expectations, and internalized homophobia long before we understood our sexuality.

I wonder how some of us might have interpreted those feelings if we’d grown up in today’s conversations about gender identity.

I strongly support trans people’s dignity, safety, and civil rights, but I also think we need to be able to ask difficult questions about the experiences of gay youth without immediately being accused of transphobia.

Are we doing enough to help young gay boys become comfortable with their sexuality and gender nonconformity? And how do we make sure we’re supporting both gay and trans youth without confusing their distinct experiences?

Curious what everyone thinks, especially older gay men who grew up under very different expectations.

https://genspect.org


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 2d ago

🌈 LGBTQ+ Discussion The problem with trans ideology is that it extends beyond personal autonomy, while homosexuality does not.

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As gay men and women, we do not affect other people in any capacity. All we asked for is to simply ignore us if you don’t like us and don’t restrict our rights. Thats it. You didn’t have to affirm anything or change your whole mindset or ANYTHING like that.

Trans ideology at its core involves making people do things they don’t want to do, believe things they don’t believe, and pretend that everything they knew before was wrong for the sake of affirming their identity.

Trans ideology and its backing hit a SHARP and SIGNIFICANT decline and it’s a no brainer as to why…

Advocating for putting teenagers on hormones and puberty blockers for years as if its easily reversible (its not), forcing people to validate you through disciplinary actions, trying to enter sex protected spaces, trying to enter sex restricted sports, thinking a parent should endorse their children hating their body in the most vulnerable time of their life (puberty) and this list goes on.

Even among left leaning movements its support is sliding back. The sheer amount of progressive movements we’ve had to abandon for trans ideology to make sense is absurd.

ā€œWe need to get rid of gender stereotypes. Oh they use those to affirm their identity? Doesn’t that just reinforce those stereotypes?? Well never mind then i guess.ā€

ā€œWomen are recognized as a sex protected class under the law? Oh anyone could be a man or woman whenever they say so? I’m sure this wont be exploited to get rid of protected rights for womenā€

ā€œHomosexuality is observed in many species. It’s completely natural and uncontrollable, it’s not a choice. Oh this is transphobic because it doesn’t recognize someone’s gender identity? And that a female simply saying she’s a man doesn’t suddenly allow her into homosexual mens dating pool, as she is still female? Oh well I guess we need to change what sexuality (and by extension sex) is tooā€

Very recently there are arguments being made that Democrats are moving away from trans ideology and support, and honestly, they should. They are a losing battle and they don’t make sense to the vast majority of the population while also demanding said population to change for them. Its simply not going to happen.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 2d ago

šŸ“£ Gay Issues & Advocacy Are we expanding the LGBTQ+ community, or diluting what it was created to protect?

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According to a recent Gallup survey, 31.4% of young women and 11.4% of young men identify as LGBTQ+. That’s a pretty remarkable difference.

But it makes me wonder, how many of these people are actually exclusively homosexual? How many are bisexual but primarily heterosexual, living predominantly heterosexual lives?

The article points out that much of this increase comes from bisexual identification, particularly among women. But identifying as LGBTQ+ doesn’t necessarily tell us much about someone’s actual sexual attraction or relationships.

And that raises a bigger question for me. If an increasing percentage of our community consists of people who are primarily heterosexual, what happens to the political power, cultural institutions, and distinct needs of gay men and lesbians?

I’m not questioning anyone’s right to identify as bisexual or participate in the community. But I do wonder whether expanding the umbrella indefinitely risks making the people it was originally organized to protect a smaller voice within their own movement.

At what point does inclusion become dilution? And is this expansion actually working in the interests of gay men and lesbians?

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 2d ago

ā“ Question for the Guys To you, what’s the most attractive scent a man can have?

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Coco Butter for me!


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 3d ago

šŸ’­ Personal Story I have been called -phobic, can anyone tell me if I was wrong?

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Okay so I'm a gay man and I have never been attracted to female *body parts (yes I know it's obvious, wait.) I have been talking to this person a while ago and they were a trans man (who uses they/them) and when I told them it was a deal breaker for me if they are not *cis male, they called me transphobic and how sexuality is fluid and I should unlearn my biases...I respect how other people feel, but for me women and female parts have never been my thing nor do I think it will change for me. I don't think it means I am a hateful person towards any group just because I don't want to date someone to whom I'm not attracted to??...so this is basically AITA


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 2d ago

šŸ“£ Gay Issues & Advocacy Homogeneity, and being viewed through a lens of "other".

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 3d ago

šŸ§” Men & Masculinity Beware homophobic tattooer

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Timothy Goodrich owns Aloha Tattoo Hawaii in Waikiki. He is wildly homophobic, please be careful if you are in the area.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 7d ago

🌈 LGBTQ+ Discussion Is the weakest link in the LGBT coalition our inability to defend our own arguments?

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I’ve been increasingly questioning the strength of the LGBT coalition, particularly after repeated debates with trans activists online.

I want to be absolutely clear: I strongly support trans people’s dignity, safety, freedom, and civil rights. I want our coalition to thrive. But solidarity requires more than simply agreeing to stand together.

In the vast majority of my interactions with trans activists, I’ve encountered the same troubling pattern: emotional appeals, accusations of hatred, deflection, and demands for censorship rather than evidence, reasoned arguments, or genuine engagement with opposing perspectives.

I’m not suggesting every trans person argues this way. But the frequency of these encounters has seriously shaken my confidence in the intellectual strength of this part of our coalition.

Every member of a political coalition should be capable of defending their positions, responding to criticism, presenting evidence, and engaging with uncomfortable questions. We cannot build a strong movement if disagreement is automatically treated as violence or hatred.

I’m beginning to wonder whether this culture of argumentation is becoming one of the weakest links in our coalition. Not because trans people are inherently incapable of defending their positions, but because some activist spaces seem to reward moral condemnation over intellectual rigor.

**If we cannot defend our ideas through reason and evidence, how can we expect to defend our rights in the wider world?**

I genuinely want to hear from trans people on this, especially those who believe open debate and intellectual honesty are essential to our shared liberation.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 7d ago

šŸ“ø Media & Pop Culture Why Is OUT Celebrating a Straight Woman Using Grindr?

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OUT Magazine published an article about a straight woman using Grindr to connect with gay men.

Grindr matters because it’s one of the few spaces specifically created for gay and bisexual men to connect romantically and sexually, without having to navigate heterosexual expectations. Historically, gay men have had limited spaces where they could openly express their sexuality without judgment, rejection, or explanation.

I have nothing against friendships between gay men and straight women, but why does that require entering a space designed around gay men’s sexuality?

When even our own LGBTQ media celebrates repurposing these spaces, I think it’s fair to question whose needs are being prioritized.

Is this harmless friendship, or another example of gay men being expected to share the few spaces created specifically for us?

Read the article


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 7d ago

🌈 LGBTQ+ Discussion Is the weakest link in the LGBT coalition our inability to defend our own arguments?

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 8d ago

šŸ“£ Gay Issues & Advocacy POV: You are an LGBT+ student in Bangladesh

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 8d ago

šŸ›ļø Gay History When Modern Identities Meet Historical Records: A Gay Trans Man’s Search for Representation

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 8d ago

šŸ›ļø Gay History Wealthy Woman Sexually Assaults Gay Son And Is Killed By Him!

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 8d ago

šŸ˜‚ Fun & Random IT Three

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 9d ago

šŸ˜‚ Fun & Random Straight guy dealing with invasive OCD thoughts telling him 'you're gay' so he tried sleeping with dudes. He hated it but kept on doing it.

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r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 10d ago

"Queer women" trying to queerwomen-splain everything to gay men

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Has anybody else noticed this trend of dubiously "queer" women trying to insert themselves into conversations about gay males? Or act like some authority where they know more about gay men and our sexuality than we do?

I don't even think most of these "queer women" even have any same-sex attraction. In the past, they'd just be Allies.


r/GayMenUnapologetic • • 10d ago

ā“ Question for the Guys Am I too uptight for having this principle when it comes to a committed relationship?

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