E9s control over their ego is clearly weak as they feel the need to be there for their partner and ''give their selves'' to the ambient and start losing it because a false sense of identity as they are nothing without others to give them an answer of who they are. ''Tell me who I am, you know more...''

If they look for inner peace, does that go with an ''emotional'' tag or something about socializing?

As the title says, also this hamster is Soo cute aw 😭🩷, I wish to have a pet hamster now, and visit my young sp2 cousin, who is the sweetest most supportive girl, she is my baby for real 🥹🩷🩷.

Really, why?

So i used to mistype as an sp6, then an sp2, and then i discovered you are supposed to find your instinct first and then i ended up so/sx. Which should make me a so2. Which sort of makes sense, i share a childhood with e2s and I relate to e2 as a whole. But i like to be looked after anf seem helpless to other people, like an sp2 and not much like a so2. I do also like to care for others and would do anything for another person if it ensured they liked me, i also like bringing people together and being high regard in other's eyes. I enjoy being the center of my group, and I enjoy having a close relationship with my group. But my group isnt very big and I am not very well-liked. And like e2s do I do get angry when people don't like me. But again, back to the point, i like the whole of e2 and i think it fits me but i don't know how i can relate so much to sp2 if its my blind spot? I just don't feel so2 enough and idk

Edit: you know what pisses me off about reddit is when fat bitches downvote posts asking for help like can you help aswell if u think ur so knowledgeable oh my god

I’m wondering if I shouldn’t be so hesitant towards potentially romantically engaging with SX-blinds or if I should accept that I won’t feel fulfilled by them at all. I haven’t actually ever been involved with one romantically so I’m unsure about what they are like and hence how they would make me feel. My assumption is that SX-blinds are incapable of making me feel desired, loved and seen, things which matters to me a lot, however by romantically limiting myself to SX-users only, I’m aware that I’m ignoring a whole demographic of individuals which reduces the size of my dating pool. It’s important to me to feel more loved than I can give love if that makes sense, and I’ve observed that sx-types are easily comfortable with indulging in that dynamic.

2s and 4s operate from the same heart-brain mental source, but 4s are inuitive and can see the unhealthy problems of 2 behaviours and so gravitate towards 4.

2s are much less intuitive than 4s, so aren't as aware of how unhealthy and problematic 2 behvaiour is, but they are more practical and hands on, and so gravitate towards 2 behaviours, which is useful to get things done.

Hello people of the world, ( and whoever else this may concern ), I’m honestly not too familiar with enneagram at all. But, as the title says, my best friend, who’s super into typology in general, told me I should try this out. I’m not 100% sure what I need to say because I really am unfamiliar but imma try!

What am I afraid of?
I’m scared of being the reason I fail things in the future. I know that if I do fail, the reason is probably that I didn’t work hard enough or I didn’t try my best. Everyone says “just try your best.” And that makes me even more stressed. No matter how hard I try, I’ll absolutely never reach my exact best because how would I even know what my best is if I reach there. Ik they just mean around the general area or my best but it gives me so much stress anyway. Also, I know that just trying my best is what I should and need to do. But it feels like trying my best would involve like completely giving up every other aspect of my life by their definition which I’m also not keen to do. I also had a very very unexplained and nonsensical paranoia around my mother leaving the house to drive anywhere for a long time as a child. It’s not a separation anxiety thing, I was just convinced she’d get into a car accident ( she’s not the best driver but like, she’s totally not bad enough for that to have been a valid concern ). As for like horror movie-y fears, perception of reality being false has always scared me. Stuff like the Boltzmann Brian paradox ( basically it’s a principle in thermodynamic physics to my understanding where it’s more probable for a single brain to be created than the entire universe. This brain could have distinct memories and consciousness and still only exists for a few moments. I worry about being the Boltzmann Brian a lot and it’s a thought that creeps into my brain.- then when I told my best friend about the theory, she didn’t even have the decency to be horrified )

How do I react when in conflict:
firstly, is it something I can ignore? If it is then I’m ignoring it. For years if I have to. But i believe it shows a bit in small lapses that eventually paint a picture of my general annoyance/frustration. ( I can still enjoy their company a lot while blocking these thoughts out ). Ive found myself tolerating a lot of friendships because the people I’m close to were friends with them and even enjoying these friendships. I find it extremely difficult to hate a person consistently unless they are consistently bothering/wronging me. Even when I’m with people who I know to have done horrible things, it’s hard for me to hate them in the moment. I think it’s cuz my mindset is weak and it’s hard for me to fight off manipulation tactics or isolate what’s going on in the present from past events and believe that both may have happened. Another thing that gets me upset is abuse or misuse of power, even if it’s super small or false promises. When I reach my breaking point ( usually after a very drawn out build up ) typically I’m already so emotionally done with the situation that breaking a bond is just the natural thing for me, even if I do it kinda abruptly from the other pov. Usually I’ve had enough time to contemplate my life and relationships that I’ve already decided if being close with someone is positively or negatively affecting my thoughts about them and life as a whole. And if the answer is yes, then that’s usually the cut off for me, even if I like them as a person or feel happy when we talk. Even when in conflict with others, after huge fights and stuff, I find myself thinking “nothing is really that deep.” And if they have an incredibly emotional reaction it pisses me off. It also irks me greatly when people shout in argument or use fallacies and bad faith arguments. I think that it’s incredibly immature and shows a lack of control. I feel as though, I have afforded someone the personal respect to not raise my voice or to use arguments that don’t directly address a point and when that isn’t reciprocated I feel very upset. I also in general have a pretty ok threshold for what pisses me off ( as long as it isn’t repeated and we aren’t already in conflict ). As a child I used to get angry extremely easy and almost like being in verbal fights but now it exhausts me, which I like about myself. Whether I wish someone well or don’t bother to after I stop communicating with them depends greatly on whether they actively wronged me or if it’s more so that they were a person who I considered to be bad for me. However, I try to wish them well because I feel like one should. And I like to try to keep my thoughts towards others positive to not ruin my mindset towards humanity or anything. That’s another reason why I try to empathize with the other person ( especially after time has passed ). The idea of a bad person is subjective and I think that everyone is morally grey. I also don’t really believe that my opinion about whether someone is bad or not is necessarily correct. This leads me to feel extremely guilty after I stop talking to someone. I know that it’s human nature to think “I’m right in this situation.” And I know that the other person thinks they’re right too so it always makes me paranoid, sometimes for months or years after. Usually, after a while when I’m not being affected by whatever made me stop being friends in the first place, I’m ok with having a less close friendship and can enjoy their conversation every so often.

What motivates me?
intense fear and/or stress. However, I don’t feel intense fear and/or stress very often ( way, way less than I believe a normal person would ) so usually I just float through life pretty unmotivated. I also feel motivated by ideas that I fabricate of what a type A person is like, someone with a high drive to meet high standards and goals. I try to be like the people around me who have these traits. But at the end of the day, my drive to meet even my own goals ( like these ) is pretty low. Mostly, the stuff I get done gets done because I set rules for myself that I don’t like breaking too much. I used to be way better with my rules and not breaking them a few years ago, but they still help me function. I work super well under high stress and deadlines tho, cuz when something external is pressuring me to finish something, especially knowing that the end is in sight, it’s easier to force myself to just do stuff. I also try to make commitments in my academics that involve other people so I have no way of flaking- that’s one of the rules.

For psychosophy, my friend ( same one who’s great with typology ) typed me as FLEV and I forgot all about that typing, did my own research and again typed myself as FLEV. ( both the individual letter placements and the general vibe fit me super well ). I did check sources like a few sites and I looked at the other types and FLEV fits me the best. That being said, I’m not 100% sure and probably never will be, it’s just an educated guess that I personally believe to be accurate.

When I was a child I was a contrarian and very loudly so. I still try to analyze and look for faults in what people say or logical inconsistencies before i decided to consider their belief-set but I don’t hunger for conflict like I did before. I also think that if we want society to get better, then we have to learn to forgive its worst members if they show genuine remorse ( this obviously doesn’t extend to every situation, but I use it as a general rule of thumb ). My views on religion typically don’t misalign with what I know about scientific evidence and census. And if my thoughts do differ, then typically I change my opinion of religion. My idea of what happens after death in general is extremely subjective. Right now I’d say the closest label to what I believe is panentheism tho.

Sorry if this is too much or too little.

Been seeing the new documentary about Elizabeth Holmes on my feed recently, and she’s supposedly typed as 3w4. Was wondering if anyone has caught an e3 in a really huge lie/deception and what was it about?

I'm honestly not so sure how I should be going about this, I feel like giving a question/ answers format doesn't really resonate with me, so this is just a few things I've noticed about myself

1. I prefer to have a structured plan, however, I dislike using physical means of noting it down, instead, I like to 'collect data' or like, read my surroundings and how I feel internally before carrying out something in a certain way ( I like to trust my gut)

2. Following point 1, I'm very distrustful of people, and one of the things I incorporated into my belief system was that there was no one I could rely upon but myself. Like, no matter how much I might care about someone, I would always take the route that was most beneficial to me even if it actively harmed them. I would feel really bad, but I'd convince myself that they would never do the same for me and that I'd only be inconveniencing myself if I found a middle ground.

3. You might've noticed I used past tense for the above point because I've really tried to improve myself, even if my underlying mentality about it remains the same. I'd like to call myself someone whose pride is in being able to grow and change to become someone better

4. However, my own fear of being wrong and my fear of losing the comfort I had in my own, for lack of a better word, head strong-ness, I wouldn't follow up on actually making an improvement on myself for a long time, under the belief that making myself vulnerable would make me weak. Till now, I still struggle with that.

5. So, I would project myself as being a very chill, approachable person that people could rely on, but it's also not a false depiction of myself, I acted in the way I did because I wanted people to have a very clear idea of the person I am, and to be consistent to myself. I can't stand the idea of someone making me out to be a person I'm not.

6. I have no issue in voicing my opinions about other people when they have clearly wronged me, and for the longest time in my life, I thought that anyone that chose to preserve the peace in spite of themselves were stupid. Now, I try to keep myself relatively uninvolved such that I don't get myself into unnecessary drama, especially when I used to get myself in trouble a lot for involving myself in other people's issues

7. I do things and act in a way that satisfies my idea of how I should act to remain in line with my moral compass, and will go against general conceptions if I have to, even if I don't like it. For example, I would regulate my interactions with other people and stop talking to them if I felt it was affecting me, even if all I'd want to do is to continue talking to them and getting lost in it. I used to love to immerse myself into things and would easily be misled into other things

*8. This is my most interesting point, I think. I was talking to my best friend (trying to get her into typology), and she seemed surprised by this, which I think is cool. Okay, anyway, I've had my own fictional world for a while, much through my childhood, that I'm now writing into a book. For me, whenever I'm posed with a new situation, I apply it to my characters and setting, from which I would derive my own interpretation, and hence, world view from it. All of my values and morals come from my fictional universe. To which my friend said that it was usually the reverse for most people that they would insert their own beliefs into their fictional verses.

For point 8, I used to be very religious. However, when I inserted a god-like figure into my world, I actually came to despise the concept of God, and through my own interpretation, I slowly detached myself from the idea of religion and adopted anti theist ideology.

I feel like I'm over sharing quite a bit, but I really am very curious about what the community could say my typing is as I often struggle to see myself from an outside lens