r/truebreakingbad • u/breakingbong • Aug 20 '12
S5E06 Discussion
I'll start off by saying that Walt welding a zip-tie of his arm is fucking awesome.
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u/picard_for_president Aug 20 '12
We can some what safely assume that Walt's "everybody wins" plan probably goes along with his Empire Building plan. I think Walt might make the Arizona dealers an offer they can't refuse.
Something like, "I have the superior product and it's only getting more popular in your territory, taking your customers with it. So the way I see it you have two options. You either perish competing with me or you survive selling my product in Arizona. You'd be paid of course."
The logistics are a whole other question but in this way Walter gets to do his empire building and, since Mike and Jesse might not have to be involved, everybody wins. (Very Gus).
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Aug 20 '12
I feel like it was confirmed in my eyes that Todd is just another idiot. I think he just took Walt's statement too literal, and offed the kid because that's what he thought they expected.
Walt is turning straight evil, as we all knew he would, and I almost wonder what Skyler (Can't remember if it's an "A" or an "E" in her name) might try to get out of this situation. I'm leaning towards violence towards Walt. I'm not really sure though.
I'm thinking that Marie will also become a major character at some point, and maybe starts digging? Starts snooping for information about what's going on?
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u/Oscar_Rowsdower Aug 20 '12
That's an interesting point about Marie. Perhaps a bit of Hank will rub off on her. After the speech Sky and her had on the couch, some alarm bells had to go off. I also think Jr. might start digging a bit. He wanted answers a couple episodes ago and all he got was "We're you're parents and you're our child, that's reason enough." Marie even said "He stays busy with that car of his."
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u/DarthVegas Aug 20 '12
Are you suggesting that he has maybe been following his father for some time?- If so, that's a possibility I had never entertained. It would make for an interesting twist on things.
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Aug 20 '12
Mike would have picked up on that I'd think. Same for Walter. Jr is not stealth enough with his crutches.
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u/FatManWitAPlan Aug 21 '12
this episode was awesome on so many levels.
we see yet another emotional breakdown from jessie and this time mike has seemed to been able to convince the kid to get out of the game, at least until walt pulls him right back in.
we also get to see a side to walt that i have suspected the whole series and what i think is his reasoning for becoming enamored with becoming the top dog of drug dealers; that is his frustration with the whole "grey matter" situation he missed out on. this show is so good at allowing things to develop full circle and this is another showing of that. i'm interested to see if the writers allow walt to explain with more detail why he allowed himself to be "bought out" of the company in the first place.
we also see todd and all his idiocy by first killing the kid and then keeping the spider after all is said and done. still not enough information to really know what or who todd is, but i believe he is a freaking sociopath with a dark past and his being involved with walt is gonna be the opportunity he needs to unleash a lot of anger. he is, to me, the new "muscle" for walt now that mike is looking like he is about to make a permanent exit.
also now that skyler has figured out that jessie has been walt's partner all along are we gonna see her slip some info to hank or marie that gets the heat back on jessie from the DEA. this could come back to bite walt, or maybe even lead to something happening to skyler via walt.
and lastly we see the introduction of a rival drug crew from arizona that wants walt's signature "blue meth" completely off the streets. we all know walt isn't gonna stand for that and i believe that some major blood shed is in order over it.
just my thoughts on the episode...i tried to keep it simple, but am willing to go deeper if anyone wants to discuss my statements/predictions any further...
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u/enolan211 Aug 21 '12
Looking back at season 1, I think that Walt allowed himself to be bought out because of a love triangle forming between him, Gretchen, and Elliot. You see the shots of him and Gretchen working together at night breaking down the human body (accompanied by one of my favorite Breaking Bad quotes: "No, there is no soul here, only chemistry") and even though Elliot was Walt's roommate and close friend it is clear there was something much deeper between Gretchen and Walt, at least at some point.
I think that this is a potentially huge plot point that is starting to unfold though. Even though I don't see Gretchen to Elliot being recast back into the show. I could see (on the more extreme end of the spectrum) it potentially expanding into a situation where Walt chooses the business over his family or some member of his since he let emotion and friendships get in the way of his success once, which he obviously regrets at this point.
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u/picard_for_president Aug 20 '12
The zip tie scene immediately made me think of the bike lock scene. Especially when he tries to get his hands on broken shards of coffee pot.
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u/TheYang Aug 22 '12
Worst Scene of the Episode in my eyes, being massively more dangerous than showed as well as being basically impossible.
Lets Start with the Arc thats being produced, to my knowledge the American power network is run on 110V, unfortunately Air needs something between one and three kilovolts to punch through one millimeter (roughly 0.04 inches) of air. In the Scene its more like 5-10millimeters though. So the Voltage isn't close to being enough.
Then it's not that easy to chew through copper wiring as walt portrayed it, it'll take much longer and be very very uncomfortable.
Coming to the Dangerous bit, Walt puts one of the two undiscernable wires directly on his wrist, if it would have been the live one this would have either killed him very soon, or one of the safety mechanisms (fuse/rcd) would have cut the power. - Well he was lucky and chose the right one, or had some visual help that i couldn't see. That leaves the fact that he was sitting on the floor, sitting a human Body has about 550 Ohm of electrical resistance, counting in the resistance of the floor and ground itself you go to around 1000 Ohm - this would result in 110mA flowing through Walts Body. With alternating Current anything over 10mA for over 2 seconds gets dangerous and gets increasingly more likely to put your heart out of rythm.
He even had the opportunity to put the leather of the clock Jessie has given him under the wiring and over his skin to protect himself - but didn't.
Also he missed the fact that he was wearing glasses while being tied with a ziptie, usually those are opened pretty easy with anything stiff long and thin - like broken glasses (specifically a broken earholder - or how is this thing called? sorry english isn't my native language)
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u/popson Aug 26 '12
I agree this was a pretty terrible scene from a technical standpoint. Mike, being a professional, should certainly know how easy it is to break or release a zip-tie, and the fact that he only ties one wrist just befuddles me. Then after that slip up, Walt, being the technical genius he is, should certainly have known how to release the catch the keeps the zip-tie tight.
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Aug 20 '12
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u/picard_for_president Aug 21 '12
I don't really think he's going to try pull anything over the rival dealers eyes. Seems more likely, with his lofty empire building goals, that he will try to negotiate a deal which allows him to expand his territory into Arizona where the rival dealers will work for him. After all, that is what Gus would do.
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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '12
The scene with Todd and the spider in the car makes me wonder. He seems pleased that it's in the jar. Why? After a day like that I would be in shock.