r/telemark • u/OoT_OoS_OoA • 28d ago

Gear Check

I ski in the northeast, primarily MRG. I'm going to get Scarpa tx comps and outlaw X bindings. Mostly will use on resort but I want the ability to tour. This will be my first set but I have tele'd a few times prior. I have a pair of QST 98s at 183cm that I'm considering taking the alpine bindings off and putting the tele bindings on to save some $. I'm 6'1 185lbs expert at alpine, novice at tele. I'm worried about the skis being to thick and long. Thoughts on the setup? I would appreciate any feedback on the boots/bindings/skis

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u/IBelieveInLogic 28d ago edited 28d ago

I personally think the boot stiffness might be more of a factor than the ski length. Comps are a good bit soft stiffer than Pros (though I haven't tried the new Pros). Depends on what you want though.

Edit: typo.

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u/OoT_OoS_OoA 28d ago

I figured transitioning from alpine the comps would be a decent option. Especially since i never got used to a setup. Whats the concern with the stiffness?

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u/IBelieveInLogic 28d ago

With stiffer bellows it will be harder to flex the boot and binding, so you'll have a harder time getting your inside foot back and knee down. This could affect your stability especially in quick tight turns (if you're planning to ski trees, but you might not if you're just starting). Some people use a fairly upright stance without much separation between front and back foot, so that might be ok for you. I'm just saying that to me that would be a bigger difference than the ski length.

Edit to add: For what is worth, I got the new TX Comps last year and though I didn't get to ski much, I really like them. I had the older TX Pros before that, and T1s before switching to NTN.

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u/monfuckingtana420 28d ago

The comps are much stiffer than the pros

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u/IBelieveInLogic 28d ago

Woops, typo! That's what I meant to say.

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u/Good-Experience2540 28d ago

I have almost the same setup. Tx Pro with outlaw X and 183cm older QSTs. The QSTs have lots of rocker, they dont feel too long at all. I originally bought the new TX comp and couldn't get used to them. Sold them, and loving the new TX pro. The new comps are WAY too stiff my my skiing.

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u/OoT_OoS_OoA 28d ago

I figured transitioning from alpine the comps would be a decent option. Especially since i never got used to a setup.

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u/RustysBuddy 28d ago

You should be fine. It’ll take a bit to get used to them in bumps and trees (no shortage of either at MRG to practice)! Many fond memories of telefests at MRG! I have TX Comps on outlaws and they are great. Currently on a Ranger 102 and that’s the sweet spot for me in a 183 and I’m 5’10 and 180, very experienced tele skier mostly on Colorado pow. A shorter ski might serve you a bit better for your conditions since tele turns effectively elongate everything, but you’ll be perfectly happy with this setup! Cheers!

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u/Cambelmacd 28d ago

Considering comps/outlaws/chedis for new setup. 170 lbs 5’10”

Thinking 174cm for navigation in trees and bumps. Thoughts?

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u/Specklor 27d ago

Never skied the Chedi but from what I read it’s not particularly nimble. More a hard charging ski that needs speed to do its best work. So for trees and bumps perhaps rather a Gonzo? The Bishop people are super nice and responsive if you’re unsure

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u/RustysBuddy 28d ago

Gotta put BMFs on there! But yeah depending on conditions you’d be good with 174s in a 100mm waisted ski.

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u/Cambelmacd 28d ago

BMFs look solid but so heavy!

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u/Aelwynljg__ 28d ago

Sounds like a good setup. I've heard great things about QSTs. Im going into yr2 tele, riding Freedom bindings on SummitCone Pariah 97 (177). Not sure they're the right ski for me, but I didn't put much effort into going to telefests to try others out before purchasing.

At MRG I highly recommend Freeheel Fridays if you can. The 'group' lesson winds up being private most days, and will speed up your progress. For most accomplished skiiers the switch to tele is pretty smooth, took me a season to really get comfortable

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u/LinzertArt27 28d ago

I'd drop the waist width and overall height. I think you'll have an easier time getting back into things and also be on a more eastern appropriate ski. Great binding. Good luck 👌🏾

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u/jankyjawns 28d ago

I did essentially the same thing on a pair of qst 92s that were 185 when I was first starting, worked great. I say go for it

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u/Marcelfixyouear 27d ago

You're good. I'm 6'2, 165 pounds. I ski 177 and 180s (both around 195-198), and your weight with those beefy boots and bindings can push anything. I had a pass at MRG when I went to school. Have fun and hello Paradise!

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u/Fast-Orange-Drinker 28d ago

I'm running the same boots and bindings on a set of old K2 marksmans (185, 106 waist, HEAVY) and they drive fine if that's your concern, it's a pretty robust combo though.

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u/No_Switch9570 27d ago

For resort the Comps and BMF's would be my choice. Comps take a bit to break in the bellows but once broken in they ski great. Although QST's are a great choice for softer conditions they might be tougher on those very firm conditions at MRG than something a bit narrower. They ski short so that's a plus while learning. Outlaws are great too but I feel the BMF skis much smoother. BMF's are a bit heavy but if you're just doing short tours they'll be fine.

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u/Cambelmacd 27d ago

Hey thanks for this. Have read similar recently

I live in vancouver so ski mostly north shore, whistler and duffy lake road. I am looking into blitzens as an alternative

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u/MT_OasisFinder 28d ago

Just got those scarpas and outlaw X last year, my first time rockin NTN, and absolutley love them! Now Skiing runs I never could on my previous garbage hand-me-down 75mm kit. I think you're on the right track to put the big money down on boots and amd bindings initially, and compromising on skis. Next off-season once you have a sense of what you want, keep a sharp eye out for brand new skis with the correct dimensions being offered on spring/summer close-out.

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u/monfuckingtana420 28d ago

Eh, most folks and even 22Designs just reccomend sticking to the manufacturer’s recc line. Going back for telemark is a bit outdated of thinking, and entirely unnecessary on modern gear. Hell, I even go forward of recc +1.5cm on my skis sometimes

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u/bodywhomper13 28d ago

I would disagree. I suggest tele boot center at the recommended alpine boot center line. I think that is the best recommendation for somebody starting out and would be most straightforward for a shop mounting the skis. At the same time, a cm or 2 forward or back will probably not be noticeable because of the dynamics of the tele position.

Tinkering with mount points can come later.

The op’s thoughts on skis will probably work out fine.

I hope you enjoy tele skiing. It’s a blast!