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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Hope you guys enjoy! I’ve been submitting cartoons to the New Yorker for about 2 years now and just recently sold my first one (they passed on this one, but it’s still a favorite of mine).
For more of my cartoons, come stop by my subreddit: r/BummerParty
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u/SevereBlackberry Jul 15 '26
Congrats man. When are they publishing it?
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
No idea, actually! You don’t find out until it shows up in an issue one day.
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u/Foreign_Advantage_75 Jul 15 '26
how much do they pay for cartoons?
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
I use this as my resource to track publication pay: https://colemantoons.com/marketlist.php
It’s not fully accurate, but it’ll give you an idea of what the major markets pay out for cartoons these days.
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u/bskzoo Jul 15 '26
Do you have to submit to one publisher and then wait until they decline them before submitting to another? I mean, I would kind of assume so, you can’t sell the same cartoon to two different places probably, but it seems like a slow process in that case!
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
For the most part, yes! A few allow simultaneous submissions, but generally you have to wait for the rejection before sending them elsewhere.
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u/PM_me_punanis Jul 15 '26
I was curious and clicked some of the links. I see that the range is quite ridiculous... 60 to 600 usd, depending on how popular the publication is. I
t seems drawing cartoons will not be a career choice for me. Mostly because I can only draw stick figures. 😩
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u/Neo_1101001 Jul 16 '26
Omg I mostly create comic books but as a cartoonist this resource is AWESOME thank you for blessing my evening with this, have a wonderful day!
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u/arthurdentstowels Jul 16 '26
Subscribed! I love the style and simplicity of your art, it gives similar vibes to The Far Side but with your own unique art and topical subjects.
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u/GeForce-meow Jul 15 '26
Are you the guy who runs youtube channel (that makes animation of bee)
Idk your pfp kinda reminds me of that
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u/Zauberer-IMDB Jul 15 '26
Reminds me of an amazing fact, which Roger Ebert would point out, is that he, a Pulitzer Prize winning author (in a short form of columns no less) said he sent in caption contest entries every single week and only won twice. I say this to say they got some high standards at the New Yorker, of some kind or another.
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u/Dick-Fu Jul 15 '26
The New Yorker and passing on actually funny cartoons, that checks out. (Besides that one of yours they bought, I'm sure that was great)
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
They receive thousands of submissions every week — they have to turn down hundreds of very funny cartoons from very talented cartoonists pretty regularly!
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u/Dick-Fu Jul 15 '26
They should try accepting some funny ones too!
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
Everyone’s got their own sense of humor, I suppose — I think they’re generally very funny!
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u/depredador93 Jul 15 '26
It really does feel like telling people you met in the wild requires a disclaimer now...
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u/puerco-potter Jul 15 '26
"I was drinking at a bar, and they approached me."
"But not like in a creepy way, they were respectful."
"Oh, no, I wasn't drunk."
"I mean, they didn't take advantage of me. They were drunker."
"No, no, I didn't take advantage of them either. Not so much more drunk."
"Scratch that, we met online."290
u/TheLuo Jul 15 '26
My ex and I used to tell people we met "The old fashioned way, at a bar".
Truth is I had a small circle of guy friends. As we grew the group we started to include girls that someone tried to date but got turned down. They became "bros" in the group. Slowly the group turned into a 50/50 split.
.....then everyone started getting married to each other.
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u/darkslide3000 Jul 15 '26
Isn't this the best possible option, though? "Oh we were already friends through X and then we eventually grew closer" is like the ideal "how did you meet" response, sounds way better than "drunkenly made moves on someone at a bar".
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u/prpldrank Jul 15 '26
"I interrupted her playing ukulele on the beach and she told me about her dad's suicide. Then we got hit by a wave and she cried and we hugged. Sooooo.."
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u/Rage_Your_Dream Jul 15 '26
the consequences of feminism have been a disaster for mankind. Now we're doomed to have to use a corporate app to sell ourselves. Amazing job
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u/Lemonwizard Jul 15 '26
I don't think it does. I've never heard of anybody being weird about this. Meeting people IRL is still a much easier way to get dates than using apps is.
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u/CoolHandRK1 Jul 15 '26
I met my wife on Tinder. I still joke she is the worst one night stand ever.
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u/Four_beastlings Jul 16 '26
I had some unexpected time off and took the cheapest flight leaving the next day. It was to Poland, which I couldn't have pointed to on a map. I met some guy on Tinder with the intention of having a drink and maybe hooking up. I am now married and living in Poland.
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u/Sa7aSa7a Jul 17 '26
"She wouldn't take a hint to leave and I couldn't directly tell her. Was easier to just get married honestly"
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u/tlind2 Jul 15 '26
I remember being embarassed to tell people I met someone online in the year 2000
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u/rearwindowpup Jul 15 '26
A/S/L?
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u/bigjames2002 Jul 15 '26
18/f/CA
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u/redditallreddy Jul 15 '26
What are you wearing?
(I can't stop giggling that "bigjames2002" is an 18-year old female!)
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u/762mm_Labradors Jul 15 '26
First girl that asked me out was via email in 1996, lol.
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u/WhipTheLlama Jul 15 '26
In 1998 a girl used the Unix 'write' command to send me a terminal message while I was working in my college's computer lab. It was something like "I think you're cute"
Who needs Tinder when you have cool old tech?
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u/mynameisglaceon Jul 15 '26
same like i've gotten girlfriends online (not long distance, they lived in the same city) before online dating was a normal thing. but nowadays i act like i'm appalled that everybody is just out there using these online dating apps like it's an abomination to society.
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u/Neveronlyadream Jul 15 '26
Even when online dating was a normal thing, people absolutely did not want to admit that's how they met someone.
I think the pandemic changed the game. Once everyone didn't have a choice, it became acceptable in their eyes to admit they were using the apps. But before that, a lot of people were embarrassed by it.
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u/BklynMoonshiner Jul 15 '26
I think the window shifted on this a while before the Pandemic. But I wouldn't really know I have been with the same woman for 18 years and never used dating apps or sites. I just feel like even in my friend groups meeting online was normalized over 10 years ago.
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u/redditallreddy Jul 15 '26
I have been married since 1994. I met my wife on AOL.
That made for some awkward conversations.
Also, my son, at the age of 28, overheard us telling some friends about it, and said... "Wait a minute... I just realized Dad slipped into your dms!"
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u/arkington Jul 15 '26
My defense was that I wasn't going to get roofied, assaulted or followed home from my computer. Also I just hate bars and would never want to go in one searching for someone who somehow also hates bars. Makes no damn sense. Wifey and I met in our natural shared habitat, the land of the nerds.
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u/darkslide3000 Jul 15 '26
Online without dating app is worse though. It has all the same issues but none of the "at least we were both intentionally looking and checked out each others' profiles first, in an at least somewhat policed environment" mitigating factors. It sounds like "someone randomly came on to you, and you didn't even know how they looked like or if they really were who they pretended".
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u/VerySuperGenius Jul 15 '26
My parents made me feel like I was going to be kidnapped immediately if I talked to any strangers online.
It kept me from doing it but also made me realize that they regularly lied to me about how the world works to manipulate me to just listen to them without actually understanding why what they're asking me to do is correct.
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u/Tata_Colores Jul 15 '26
They were worried about you and tried to protect you, yet your attitude is accusing them of lying to you and manipulating you? lmao
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u/throwaway8429739 Jul 15 '26
Am I taking crazy pills? People are proud of meeting people on tinder? Man I must be getting old
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u/rick2882 Jul 15 '26
Not proud. Meeting your partner on a dating app is just the new normal...unlike in 2006 when it raised eyebrows.
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u/NoPossibility Jul 15 '26
Calling Tinder a dating app feels a little disingenuous.
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u/Palatron Jul 15 '26
You obviously haven't been on/seen Tinder in a long time. I met my now wife on there over four years ago just wanting to hook up, but 90% of the women were looking for long term relationships.
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u/SoulFluff Jul 15 '26
people are floored when I tell them I met my current partner 6 years ago in FFXIV. I wouldn’t say I’m proud but it isn’t as common as I thought it would be.
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u/BonJovicus Jul 15 '26
I’ll go against the grain here: in 2026, meeting someone in person might be more uncommon than online, but it certainly isn’t considered weird.
Maybe my social bubble is different, but I still know a lot of people that met through hobbies or friend of friends or originally were co-workers.
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u/SaltManagement42 Jul 15 '26
Wasn't there a study a while back that found the majority of men under 25 have literally never approached a woman in real life?
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u/Abed-in-the-AM Jul 15 '26
It's definitely not widely considered weird however there are some very online people who think any kind of approach in public is bad.
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u/Ballsofpoo Jul 15 '26
More like scary. Talking to actual people, on the fly, no backspacing, no editing, can be intimidating. All skills need practice. Or "buff charisma" for the chronically online.
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u/Dxxx2 Jul 15 '26
Because that is still the sought after way of meeting a SO. I don't know a single person who wants to meet someone through an app as a go to.
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u/3DSarge Jul 15 '26
Very true to life here! Was on about 5 different dating apps for a five-year span, then randomly met my wife at a karaoke bar.
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u/darkslide3000 Jul 15 '26
Curious if you think you would have also swiped on each other and proceeded to a first date if you randomly saw each other on an app? Or was there some factor that might have stopped you on the apps that you managed to bypass by falling for each other in person right away?
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u/3DSarge Jul 16 '26
We've actually talked about whether we ever came across each other and not realized. We were both on OKCupid and she lived within 10 minutes of me so it's entirely possible. My guess is if she had seen me she may have been put off by my pictures, I had just finished working at a car dealership that only allowed male employees to be clean shaven or have a mustache, and I'd opted for the latter during my tenure so I definitely had 80's porn stache in my dating pictures 🤣
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u/OvenCrate Jul 15 '26
Did your wife know you were on dating apps? Was she also? Is this a "Do you like pina coladas" story?
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u/3DSarge Jul 15 '26
I should clarify, we were both single at the time and we married later. She does know though, and she was also. Funnily enough, she had been talking to a guy on a dating app right around when we met, and she ended up ghosting him to be with me 🤣
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u/TheBigTwo-MK Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Started dating my wife in 2012 right before the boom of dating apps like tinder. It's weird that there was this giant cultural experience that we just completely dodged and had to experience it vicariously through friends.
At the time dating websites were a thing but less common with people college aged.
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u/jonny24eh Jul 15 '26
I can relate, although I still know lots of people who meet the old fashioned way:
Me and wife, 2015, university house party.
My brother and his wife, 2021 - we set him up on a blind date with wife's-friend's-friend.
My sister and her BF, 2024 - coworkers
My brother and his GF, 2025 - same circle of friends
Teammate and his GF, 2025 - she played for the women's team
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u/HYPERNATURL Jul 15 '26
To be honest, I'm not sure this still rings true to me. I think dating apps have certainly been normalized in that nobody would be surprised to find out a couple met through them... But there's also an increasing distaste for them, and how seemingly shallow, meaningless and often ineffective the interactions people are having on them are.
In 2026, I actually think we've come all the way back around to people being far more impressed to find out that you and a partner actually met and hit it off in person.
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u/Working_Film_5871 Jul 15 '26
very funny, and really captures the IDK 'ennui' or whatever that is The New Yorker cartoon vibe.
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u/Jester471 Jul 15 '26
I remember the early days of online dating. It was completely the opposite.
I set up a profile on a whim because I was single but you had to pay to message people. So I never paid and some girl sent me an IM on AOL messenger asking if my username on match was the same. It was and we met and dated for a while.
My friends made so much fun of me for meeting someone online. “So Jester, how’s KittyKat8345?”
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u/snacktonomy Jul 17 '26
how’s KittyKat8345?
And in my days the answer would be, "oh, he turned out to be a nerd"
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u/WellKnownAlias Jul 15 '26
Yeah my girlfriend and I still don't tell people we met on Bumble. The official line is we met at an apple orchard.
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u/zhulinxian Jul 15 '26
I wonder if anyone under 30 gets the joke 😂
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u/Automatic_Algae_9425 Jul 15 '26
I'm over 30, but I'm not sure I get the joke. Are there subcultures in which meeting a romantic partner in person is seen as slightly disreputable (I say 'slightly' because presumably this is exaggerated in the cartoon for humorous effect)?
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u/zhulinxian Jul 15 '26
It used to be taboo/embarrassing to admit you’d met someone though a dating website/app. So the exaggeration is that the situation would be reversed.
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u/Brye1226 Jul 15 '26
Even more amusing when you've seen the diaries posts and half of them have food with a keyboard in the background.
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u/mrrobc97 Jul 15 '26
I would love to meet someone at a bar... but unfortunately I don't drink and I will feel stupid being there with a glass of water or juice (don't drink soda either).
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u/Paulsworldohya Jul 15 '26
My brother and his wife were telling people they met in the mall and some additional details I no longer remember, but they met online. 🤷♂️
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u/WuShanDroid Jul 15 '26
Yeah with my partner we go with "we met in a video game" instead of "I posted an advertisement of myself in a femdom relationship-seeking subreddit and she replied to it" lmao 😭😭
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u/Khaeos Jul 15 '26
Every relationship I have had for 10 years now started with a woman talking to me at work, or finding me on social media after I talked to her at work.
I used to spend tons of time on the internet. I loved in Yahoo! Chat rooms using cheetachat and programming my text to be the perfect color gradient. ICQ. Obviously AIM. But I've never been able to bring myself to use a dating site. It still feels so strange, artificial, and sad; like resignation. Instead, I haven't dated for two years now which, I guess, is also resignation.
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u/Zingledot Jul 15 '26
Or, you could say the dating pool made up of people you work with is strange, artificial, and sad. Bunch of random people are bunched up and forced to spend time together and risk workplace fallout by dating each other because "that's how you meet people".
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u/Khaeos Jul 15 '26
I didn't mean coworkers. Also, I'm not saying the dating apps are bad or that those feelings of mine reflect the truth, or that any of these things are the way things "should be". I'm just sharing how it feels.
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u/BurlyJohnBrown Jul 16 '26
I don't think that's particularly sad. Most friendships and relationships historically have been circumstantial, based on the environment where you live and work. That's life.
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u/No-Cantalou Jul 15 '26
Yet you’re relationships that started solely out of sharing the same space with someone 1/3 of the day. But the dating apps are artificial. Mhm
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u/Khaeos Jul 15 '26
I was referring to people I met while I was at work. Not coworkers, just exposure to the public.
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u/jodudeit Jul 15 '26
It looks like she's wearing socks.
Is this a new trend of taking your shoes off before you even get inside someone's house?
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u/kenspi Jul 15 '26
My wife and I met in a bar. Her parents think we met at a birthday party (in the "1900's").
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u/Wild_Lavishness_312 Jul 15 '26
Is online dating the new normal? I want to meet people in real life instead but I'm too shy, I always end up asking the girl to tell me what time it is and that feels like a big w for me
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u/HalfSoul30 Jul 16 '26
I started my last relationship through tinder, but we knew each other from a couple years earlier. Didn't see or talk to her that whole time, but saw her on tinder one day, and was curious, and it was an instant match. I'm convinced it only worked because we knew each other, as i have not had any other success with dating apps other than a ONS. Stranger at a bar works way better, for me at least, but neither has nothing on a coworker lol
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u/SoCalSurvivalist Jul 16 '26
Lol the first time i saw my wife she stormed in with a dour expression on her face. My first thought was "she looks like a bitch", over a decade + later and my first impression wasn't wrong.
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u/NJNMAZ Jul 17 '26
Telling Mom "I met her at a bar" would not have been a healthy start to a relationship as far as Mom was concerned. She was OK with the internet dating, one of whom turned out to be The Bride.
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u/freekoout Jul 15 '26
Before online dating, meeting someone in a bar was considered something to be judged. At least that's what my parents say. But who knows, they are Catholic so they have a warped sense of what should and shouldn't be judged.
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u/web250 Jul 21 '26
This is the most "Re: Re: FWD: FWD" boomer ass joke I've seen in a while
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 21 '26
You know you don’t have to be rude to random strangers online, right?
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u/Queasy-Sail-7642 Jul 15 '26
this is dead, now men are afraid to even speak to female unlesss its being a computer.
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u/keznaa Jul 16 '26
Tbf, I think people were embarrassed to tell people they met someone at a bar before dating apps too.
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u/baelrog Jul 16 '26
Honestly, if I ever decide to be a college professor, I’ll assign group projects just to ship my students.
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u/360walkaway Jul 15 '26
I think I used up most of my life's luck when I met up with a nice MILF off an AOL email (wasn't a catfish, didn't get stood up or ghosted). She reached out to me and said she liked my profile or something, and we got to talking, and she soon took young me on multiple trips to poundtown.
I'd had sex once before, but that was the icky awkward first-time sex where you are more confused than anything else afterwards. She is the one who I consider I lost my virginity to.
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
Do you think that there’s a chance that the cartoon might be exaggerated for comedic effect and not completely true to real life
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u/Casual_Deviant Jul 15 '26
Do you think there’s any chance you took the cartoon too seriously
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