r/fightporn • u/jollybot Moderator • May 18 '24
Rule changes
Update: We’ve been on a banning spree the past week, so I wanted to provide a more specific update on some of the common things people are getting banned for:
- Well well well, typical, and similar low-effort comments.
- Equal rights equal lefts / women shouldn’t act like men
- Fuck you bloody
- Intentional misgendering (this violates Reddit rules)
In the past 12 months:
- We received 25,700+ reports of rule violating comments.
- Over 50% of those reports were for some type of *ism.
- 114,000+ comments were removed.
- Reddit (Admins) removed 4,500+ comments.
- Nearly 65,000 users have unsubbed.
Our goal in moderating is to keep this sub alive (not banned) by enforcing Reddit's rules and removing content that violates said rules. We've previously been pretty lenient with what we allowed to be posted so long as it wasn't overt violations of those rules, but we've been getting a lot of feedback from users who are tired of the innuendo and the amount of reports and unsubs seems to support that. This is your sub and we'll moderate it how you want it moderated. To that end, the following rule changes are now in effect:
- All comments consisting of any *ist/*phobic innuendo or generalizations = permaban. We previously just removed these comments if they weren't overt violations, but that approach didn't work.
- All posts of minors = permaban. We repeat it over and over and there are a dozen school fights posted a day.
- Any posts or comments that get removed by Reddit = permaban.
- Obvious bait titles = permaban.
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u/lucky_owl2002 May 18 '24
We'll moderate this sub the way you guys want it moderated
So from now on, these will all be PERMABANS
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u/kouzuki22 May 18 '24
Can you just block the mod and act like he don’t exist?
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u/SuanaDrama Jul 07 '24
its kinda funny, all the bans have silenced what the people want.... now the chosen ones get to choose the direction.
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u/jollybot May 18 '24
What would you propose we do differently?
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u/k3nnyklizzl3 May 18 '24
Perhaps give one warning first before banning someone FOREVER
FOREEVVEEERRRRR
FOOORRRR EEEHHH VVVEERRR
(I hope you get the Sandlot reference, lol)
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u/shockNSR May 18 '24
Makes sense after a rule change. Maybe a grace period for the 1 warning before going to strictly permanent. But I just watch the videos here, never comment or anything so. Take it with a grain of salt
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u/frogbxneZ May 18 '24
man these mods permaban you so quick. like bro, forever tho? no warning no nothing. they're making reddit suck so bad.
we like these subs and communicate on them every day, then one wrong (non overt) conversation or comment and boom permabanned w no care.
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u/SearchingForFungus May 18 '24
Hiding racist comments and pretending the racism is gone is just plain dumb and clearly doesn't work, based on a thousand other subs.
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u/Plebius-Maximus May 18 '24
You don't hide them, you stop the users from being able to post here.
Say there were comments supporting something like child abuse? Would you think it's bad to remove these?
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u/Basic-Muffin-5262 May 18 '24
No one is pretending racism doesn’t exist, we all understand racism is real.. if you didn’t know already, racism is actually harmful, so you shouldn’t say racist thins in public and if you do, you deserve consequences
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u/stocktadercryptobro May 18 '24
I don't fully disagree with your comment. The problem is that a lot of things that are viewed as racist aren't, or may not be. Regards everywhere chime up something as being a racist comment, but without further knowledge of the person or more details, it's an assumption at best.
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u/Castod28183 May 18 '24
Let the consequences be a hundred downvotes and a dozen comments telling them they are fucking stupid then...that is literally the whole point of the karma/voting system.
I'd much rather know who the racist assholes are than have them hiding in their echo chambers...
We are able to view each others comments/profile partly so we can judge what kind of person we are conversing with. If you delete those comments then you delete their past.
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u/TheRealTanteSacha May 18 '24
But when factual observations about certain cultures and religions are 'racism' the accusation loses all its value
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u/Batmanswrath May 18 '24
This is where the fun begins..
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u/FilmsNat May 18 '24
I love that the comment below yours was deleted xD
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u/Batmanswrath May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24
It was someone that wasn't happy about censorship, if they aren't happy about less rac
ism etc then we've lost nothing of value.13
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u/StopWhiningPlz May 18 '24
What constitutes an -ism is often subjective, which is the real problem.
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u/Fair-Grab9019 May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24
r/suddenlycommunist EDIT: yall, this was a joke 😭 you can't say it doesn't fit perfectly with the censorship comment lmao
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u/Mindless_Ad_6045 May 18 '24
Yeah, and now some neck bearded troll is going to decide what's appropriate or not. It's not going to be about what's actually offensive. It's going to be about what offends the mods
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u/FilmsNat May 18 '24
Not speaking about this sub directly, but there are already plenty of mods that do this. That's where that lovely superiority complex comes from. I hope this mod is true to their word and only remove the bigoted comments, but I guess we will see.
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u/SearchingForFungus May 18 '24
Can you contradict yourself any harder? I mean really? You people are fucked. If you have censoring, you don't have free speech. What the fuck.
Why shouldn't I be allowed to know who is openly racist? Hiding it and pretending it dosnt exist is fucking stupid. That dosnt change anything except make them want to be louder about it.
I swear critical thinking just dosnt exist around here.
"I love free speech, but I also love when people get censored because my feelings are more important than logic"
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u/Basic-Muffin-5262 May 18 '24
Yeah free speech doesn’t release you from any consequences…. Just don’t be racist or homophobic or anything and you’ll be fine, it’s really that simple
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u/Sweet_Milk2920 May 18 '24
It’s so true.. people don’t realize that today we’re censoring things that are bad.. but in 10 years they could censor/ban you for simply saying that you support someone that doesn’t ’follow their rules’. Such a slippery slope. I’m all for trying to rid the world of phobias and isms, but I’m not sure this is going to work out the way people hope it does in the long run.
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u/Plebius-Maximus May 18 '24
If you have censoring, you don't have free speech. What the fuck.
Why should you be allowed to go around endorsing abhorrent behaviours like child abuse, or rape? Why should everyone else be forced to listen to your disgusting and depraved viewpoints?
You are free to say what you want. You're also free to be banned because most of us aren't like you, and don't think views like that should be given a platform, ever.
Maybe now you can understand
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u/DarkestLore696 May 18 '24
Yes yay, if you can’t express yourself without hate then you should probably not express yourself period.
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u/PandorasFlame May 18 '24
Sometimes Redditbots just go fuckin apeshit over nothing. I had a comment removed for "racism" because I said "I'd 🥊 back" on a video of a dude getting jumped. That was all it took.
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u/jollybot May 18 '24
You can always appeal stupid removals via modmail. Most times it’s AutoMod itself, which we can override.
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u/PandorasFlame May 18 '24
This was via Reddit itself, not mods. I did appeal and it was almost immediately thrown right back at me (which means I very highly doubt a human saw it) along with their boilerplate warning about conduct and account statuses. Moderation by automation is an absolute joke and it hurts even more when companies don't back it up with humans. Thankfully there's some layers here so if it's the automod bot, I could get a human to respond, but it unfortunately doesn't help in all circumstances. Moderation by bot is the reason I deleted my Instagram account which I had for over a decade. Literally everything I commented was flagged as spam and I could never get a human to talk to about it. After receiving a 24hr, 7 day, and 30 day ban back to back to back literally the instant I posted my first comment after the ban period, I said fuck this. Not worth it. Hopefully Reddit doesn't go as hard as Insta, but we'll see. One warning in however many years I've had this account isn't that bad.
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u/FlangerOfTowels May 18 '24
Appeals result in getting muted before getting banned for some made of nonsense...
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u/mk6dirty May 21 '24
i appealed mods on another sub and was silenced from mod mail when i asked why i was banned.
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u/Castod28183 May 18 '24
Eh... Reddits appeal process is pretty inadequate and some mods have a major problem admitting when they are flawed or make a flawed decisions. Particularly the human ones.
I dont, on the face of it, have a problem with getting rid of bigots and racists, but the problem with that is that if they all get banned from the public subs and forums they just end up in the private subs and forums which become an echo chamber where they regurgitate all the same bullshit and reinforce each others beliefs...
Personally I'd rather them spout their nonsense and hate publically where they can get downvoted and shamed and we can all see their true colors on full display. If you force them all into echochambers then everything they post will get upvoted.
From a strictly rational standpoint, there might be a thousand racist assholes that comment, who are completely set in their racist ways, and one 13 year old that spouts some racist bullshit because he thinks it's the "cool" thing to do.
If we can downvote or shame or rationalize with that one 13 year old enough for him to realize what he's saying isnt cool then, in my opinion, that's worth enduring the thousand other comment.
I'm of the opinion that free speech entails the right to say any stupid thing that you deign to spew out of your head hole, but free speech also entails the right of others to tell you how stupid the thing you said is.
Its anybody's right to say dumb shit, but it's also our right to be able to tell those people that they are assholes. Please don't take that right from us.
You aren't taking away their free speech, they'll just find somewhere else to say those things. You are taking away our right to call them a shithead.
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u/Sweet_Milk2920 May 18 '24
The majority don’t even realize the slippery slope we’re on here. They see it at face value as good because they want to punish the POS’ and I’m in agreement there, but this isn’t how you do it. And it’s only going to get worse. What happens when say, Doritos gets sponsored ads, and you start to get banned for saying you don’t like their products? Do we really have to get to that point to realize that we’ve gone too far?
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u/Plebius-Maximus May 18 '24
And it’s only going to get worse. What happens when say, Doritos gets sponsored ads, and you start to get banned for saying you don’t like their products?
I like how quickly you all start making up bullshit to try to justify why racists shouldn't be banned
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u/H3NTAI_S3NPAi May 18 '24
Post videos of fights? Permabanned
Breathed in the wrong direction? Permabanned
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u/PandorasFlame May 18 '24
You tink I'm joking, but no. Straight to jail.
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u/cotain May 18 '24
I know this but can’t remember where it’s from??
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u/Waaait_What May 18 '24
What is an *ism
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u/jollybot May 18 '24
Albinism, stigmatism, plagiarism.
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u/sirSADABY May 18 '24
I'm looking forward to plagiarism being banned tbf.
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u/JungleBoyJeremy May 18 '24
Like I’ve always said, I'm looking forward to plagiarism being banned tbf.
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u/matangligaw May 18 '24
Antidisestablishmentarianism
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u/djw002 May 18 '24
The fact you got that all in one word with out messing up deserves an up vote.
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u/matangligaw May 18 '24
Thanks. Have been practicing in the mirror
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u/djw002 May 24 '24
The douche bags that down vote everything tells me a lot about society. "I want to see people fight but how dare you say anything." Useless idiots.
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u/rodolphoteardrop May 18 '24
Douchebags who dogwhistle by pretending to be stupid about obvious things.
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u/IMN0VIRGIN May 18 '24
When you [Removed by Reddit]
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u/GarlicQueef May 18 '24
Why are we censoring speech at all? I understand not allowing content that doesn’t fit the sub or breaks rules such as no fights involving minors. I will never understand censoring free speech no matter what is said. Let racists, homophobes and nazis expose themselves and let people have freedom of speech. That’s my opinion.
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u/trod999 May 18 '24
Reddit has rules about posts. Right up front the mods said they're doing this to keep reddit from banning the whole sub. If you want completely uncensored speech then take it up with reddit, or just buy the platform.
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u/wewew47 May 18 '24
Let racists, homophobes and nazis expose themselves and let people have freedom of speech.
Probably because if you're the target of that hate speech it's pretty shit to constantly come across it? This would put the comfort of bigots above the targets of their speech.
Plus reddit is a private platform, free speech has never applied to it.
Plus there is no such thing as completely free speech anyway. There have always been limits placed on speech for a variety of reasons.
And if you wanna get real technical about it - bigots are still free to post bigoted comments, they just aren't free from the consequences of doing so. They can make alternative accounts if they're really desperate to spread their views.
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u/jakfor May 18 '24
Because people like me come to Redditt for a break. I want to relax and be entertained. I don't want to go to subs and be inundated with racism and hate. I will stop using the app of that's what it becomes. I'm pretty sure that many people feel the same way.
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u/Wrong_Gear5700 May 21 '24
Start your own site and see how easy it is to deal with thousands of people exercising their 'free speech'.
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May 18 '24
I'm guessing people come to be entertained, not insulted. Just because you have a right to say something doesn't mean you always should.
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u/IMN0VIRGIN May 18 '24
The TL;DR version is advertisers don't like it when their products are placed on sites that have more "extreme" content and will not pay to be placed next to Keemstar shouting "Alex is a fucking [Removed by Reddit]" or the like.
And because Reddit likes money, Reddit will gladly bend to advertisers will.
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u/dmills13f May 19 '24
Free speech means you get to build your own online forum and make your own rules. And reddit gets to make the rules they like on their platform.
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u/MisterC-4 May 18 '24
What about the clout seekers who post a post that has nothing to do with a fight.
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u/rmodsrlibz May 18 '24
Why do reddit mods get so drunk on censoring people?
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u/jollybot May 18 '24
I bet you’ve never even taken a hit of censorship, have you? Fuckin’ poser. That shit goes right to the brain, no filter. I’m talking floating weightless in a blissful cloud of serenity where every controversial idea is filtered out and your body is wrapped in a soothing warmth of approved thoughts. Nothing like it.
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u/Dysexlic13 May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24
Damn that struck a nerve huh? If the shoe fits. Crazy that someone cosplaying a “powerful” neck beard on the internet is calling people a poser.
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u/rodolphoteardrop May 18 '24
Why do snowflakes melt the moment they're told no?
Mods: Don't be racist. Thanks
Modrlibz: WHY ARE YOU BEING SO MEEEEEEEEAN???? I WANT TO BE RACIST!!!! IT'S ALL SO UNFAAAAAAAAAIR!!!
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u/jsisbad Jun 03 '24
Mods: don’t be racist, homophobic, transphobic, or any other form of discriminatitory. Some people: WAAAAAA THE WOKE LEFT IS CENSORING ME.
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u/KaisarDragon May 18 '24
The Reddit rules have been the same since Reddit began. These sub mods are just getting bitched at by higher mods because they feel they aren't moderating hard enough. There are still plenty of other places to be terrible human beings on.
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer May 18 '24
We need to view violence in a safe space!
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u/itsjustafadok May 18 '24
Someone start a new sub!
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u/Greggsnbacon23 May 19 '24
Where have I seen this before?
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u/itsjustafadok May 19 '24
This has happened so many times on this shitty website. A.good sub gets started and then gets banned by reddit. Modlesspublicfreakouts sounds awesome....
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u/Greggsnbacon23 May 19 '24
Modless anything just opens the sub up to brigading. How you gonna make sure nobody floods ModlessFightPorn with actual furry porn without mods?
A good sub. You bitches want a racist echo chamber. Gonna need mods for that, too.
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u/LarryDavidntheBlacks May 18 '24
Snowflakes mad they can't enjoy violence without a side dish of racism to make them feel like a 'big man'.
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u/Cominghome74 May 18 '24
Reddit frowns upon free speech, differing opinions and quite often, facts.
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u/vikingsurplus May 18 '24
New sub. Less rules.
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u/vikingsurplus May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24
Will fix. Was drunk.
Edit: fixed now.
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May 18 '24
This is like a drug dealer telling his clients to “use responsibly.” Laughable at best.
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u/ArtRepresentative634 May 18 '24
i think when your dealer is saying "dude, you need to slow down!" there is a problem!
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u/PremierLovaLova May 18 '24
There is a problem…
Your dealer is growing a conscience which will in turn decrease their productivity which will lead to their boss bringing in someone new who won’t be as forgiving on their prices. /s
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u/EI_I_I_I_I3 Aug 04 '24
Can't milk someone who is dead. A healthy responsible addict is a good customer.
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u/stocktadercryptobro May 18 '24
No dealer ever told a dependable client to slow down.
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u/khornish_game_hen May 18 '24
I think you guys are gonna be pretty busy. I don't wish that workload on anyone.
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u/rodolphoteardrop May 23 '24
2.1m subscribers when this was posted. 5 days and bunch of "this sub is officially dead" posts later...and it's still 2.1m subscribers.
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