r/collapse • u/LetsTalkUFOs • Dec 18 '19
How are we doing?
How are we doing as moderators?
What are you thoughts on the state of the subreddit?
What changes could we make or actions could we take to improve things?
We all expect the sub to continue growing (until it can’t), especially as new waves of disruption occur. We will aim to maintain this space as long as it makes sense and in such a way as to promote reasonable and insightful discussion.
Here's a timeline of all the changes or events relevant to the sub over the past year.
Here are the some things we're currently working on or considering in the near-future:
Best of Collapse 2019 (next week)
Beta testing Reddit's Crowd Control feature (next few weeks)
r/Futurology Debate Round 2
Expanding the r/Collapse Wiki
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Dec 18 '19
I especially like the tagging of some posts with "low effort" flair
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u/LetsTalkUFOs Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
It's all people doing it themselves! Yes, makes it easier to filter them out or brace for impact.
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u/reddolfo Dec 18 '19
I'm a fan. Keep up the good work.
The priorities for me are:
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a place where people can speak, mourn and vent about collapse without being shouted down.
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a place where they can vet evidences, claims and conclusions they may see or think.
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a place to be able seek and receive emotional and psychological support.
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a place that provides easy access to the foundational elements of how collapse happens and the basic evidence of its progress scientifically.
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a place that offers ideas and suggestions and discussion about how to cope psychologically and emotionally.
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a place that offers ideas and suggestions and discussion about how to cope materially, physically and economically.
To that end it may be useful to enable or require comment labels, such that the sub content can be sorted by label, both to describe the content and allow people to easily sort be their interests.
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u/LetsTalkUFOs Dec 18 '19
Five and six are a high priority for me. I'd like a wiki similar to the existing one which focuses entirely on them.
Reddit doesn't support comment labels. Post flair has been mandatory for a few months now and it's helped in many ways.
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u/TenYearsTenDays Dec 21 '19
Generally everything is fine. I'm glad the trend towards more strict moderation (like yanking every video that didn't have a ton of detail in the tile) has abated to an extent.
I'm not sure I like the new crowd control feature since I like to see the opposing views of those who have negative karma. Also, new users can add valuable insight. It would be nice if it was optional and not mandatory as it's annoying to have to expand every collapsed comment in a thread, not knowing what you're going to get. It used to be collapsed comments here were heavily downvoted and usually inane, stupid or vile but now it's a lottery wherein a collapsed comment could be perfectly reasonable, just from someone new.
Thank you for adding the "ecological" tag a while back. I would also still suggest adding a general "resources" tag for all those things without which civilization would collapse that are not "food", "energy" and "water". For example, if phosphorus goes civilization goes too but it's a bit silly to have a separate tag for it. But it would be uesful to be able to filter by a "resources" tag to see that kind of thing. I've written to the various mods twice about this and not gotten a response, which was a bit disappointing.
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u/KuiperBE Dec 18 '19
pretty good. just please don´t go full political bias/censorship-mode like the big subreddits. Usually that happens to subreddits that get big
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u/ontrack Dec 18 '19
I second this. Things are pretty good here. I don't mind a few low-effort posts or some outlandish ones either, because I can just scroll past. Rather have too little moderation than too much.
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u/OrangeCrack Dec 19 '19
This has become one of my favourite subreddits! Good job mods! I do have some things that I have concerns about.
Suicidal Posts: Should probably be banned and the poster referred for help. Allowing posts like these, while not overly common, put this subreddit at risk from the admins if there was ever a high profile incident.
Sterilization or Extremism: People talking about sterilizing themselves could be making a brave choice or mentally ill. We cannot tell. Same with people talking about selling their house, forgoing retirement savings etc. We are not a doomsday cult and at best these are off topic subjects and at worst they are encouraging risky behaviour that could bring this sub a lot of unwanted attention that would distract from the central message here.
Hopium: As a concept it’s not as important as the above two, but social media and reddit tend to create bubbles. Allowing knee jerk responses to take over discourages rational discussion. Example:
Solar panel’s can solve our energy crisis?
Unacceptable response: You idiot- get out of here with your hopium! There is no solution or hope!
Acceptable result: Actually here [1] is an article or rational argument as to the problems with using solar power at scale.
It’s a tough one to manage but it would be nice to encourage more rational discussion and less low effort knock downs.
Other than that I love this place! Keep up the good work.
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u/LetsTalkUFOs Dec 19 '19 edited Dec 21 '19
Thank you for your feedback.
Agreed on the Suicidal posts. We implemented and sidebared a Suicide Policy last month.
This subject attracts and induces varying levels of extremism. It's hard not to be aware the posts and comments here influence people, but we can't police people's ideas, just their behavior. If you see anything out of line, please report it.
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u/NoviSun Dec 18 '19
I'm pretty happy with what you're doing. I'm a newcomer, but I've learned quite a bit from the sub.
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u/Crimson_Kang Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
Haven't been here long but seems solid so far.
Edit: typo
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u/Pokeball_Z Dec 18 '19
I really enjoy this sub. The users arent chaotic or hyperactive in the comments. No ridiculous discussions about religion or politics (not that I've noticed anyway)
There's a nice mellow fatalistic feel to this sub. Like sitting around a campfire discussing the slowly approaching end.
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Dec 18 '19
You're doing ok, there is no way to make everyone happy in this sub, and there is not many other places where people can have a sober discussion of the truth. I would like to see a bit better enforcement of the "no misinformation" rule, but it's impossible to do so because that assumes that there is a source of universal truth.
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u/Frozen-Corpse Dec 18 '19
You guys are simply making the best out of the worst situation possible, and it's just going to get worse and worse from here.
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u/yohj Dec 18 '19
Infinite growth on this subreddit is not feasible. Karmawhores will continue to defect from the collective action problem of self-policing submissions. r/collapse will collapse and r/collapsecollapse will form to express our sense of depression of the collapse of the area where we express our depression about collapse.
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u/akitasha Dec 19 '19
Thank you for all of your hard work!
Do you know when the second debate with futurology will take place?
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Dec 21 '19
I like it a lot, but I don't like that I have to join the sub to avoid having my comments auto-collapsed. As everyone points out, it's a bit depressing and I like to avoid having all that stuff on my front page feed. I still contribute, a lot, I just prefer to have to go to the r/collapse page myself to having stories like "Why we're all going to die in 5 years, not 10" appear on my reddit feed.
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Dec 21 '19
i’d be very curious to see a breakdown of the financial status or just overall profile of this sub. in particular i wonder how many in here are doing well and in general “have a lot to live for”, and actually believe in collapse although they stand to lose a lot from it; versus how many are just hoping for collapse and are eager to find any evidence to reinforce that prediction, mostly due to dissatisfaction with their life or lack of prospects.
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u/Pinkie-osaurus Dec 18 '19
Think it's good right now, but this place will likely become a hot spot 'faster than expected'.
We'll have a tipping point where a few posts hit front page and suddenly a bunch of people extremely angry at the messenger will show up to shoot down ideas.
Just be prepped for heavy moderation is all.