Giant Snail Shells

[u/danl999]

I drew up the snail shell Carlos saw, when don Juan and Genaro let him view the Nagual.

I ran into it researching something else involving snail shells. Turned out it wasn't in the books as stated by a former private class member, who was flexing his inventory warrior muscles a couple of decades back. When he realized he was conversing with me on social media, he ran away. He'd been making up stuff, apparently.

But that whole story of the amazing structure is a bit silly once you can see the Nagual nightly.

Which Carlos COULD at that very time in the books.

He'd been seeing it hours a day when don Juan used the Nagual's blow on him.

So his amazement at the snail shell and wondering what it all means, is rather silly.

It doesn't mean anything...

But serves it's function in the book.

I just hope everyone realizes, you need to simulate that Nagual's blow, daily. That's why Carlos gave us the J curve lecture. As a substitute for the traditional lineage method of moving the assemblage point to heightened awareness.

The picture is from Tales of Power. I gave the passages to an AI and that's what it drew.

*** (tales of power) ***

I had one more coherent and sequential vision of another mysterious architectural structure of monumental proportions. It stood by itself. It looked almost like a shell of a pointed snail standing with it's tail up. The walls were made of concave and convex plates of some strange purple material; each plate had grooves that seemed more functional than ornamental. I examined the structure meticulously and in detail, and found that it was, like in the case of the previous one, thoroughly incomprehensible. I expected to suddenly adjust my perception to disclose the 'true' nature of the structure. But nothing of the sort happened. I then had a conglomerate of alien and inextricable 'awarenesses', or 'findings', about the building and it's function which did not make sense because I had no frame of reference for them.

I regained my normal awareness all of a sudden. Don Juan and don Genaro were next to me. I was tired. I looked for my watch; it was gone. Don Juan and don Genaro giggled in unison. Don Juan said that I should not worry about time and that I should concentrate on following certain recommendations that don Genaro had made to me.

I turned to don Genaro and he made a joke. He said that the most important recommendation was that I should learn to write with my finger to save on pencils and to show off. They teased me about my notes for a while longer and then I went to sleep. Don Juan and don Genaro listened to the detailed account of my experience which I gave them at don Juan's request after I woke up the next day. "Genaro feels that you've got enough for the time being," don Juan said after I finished talking. Don Genaro assented with a nod.

"What was the meaning of what I experienced last night?" I asked. "You caught a glimpse of the most important issue of sorcery," don Juan said. "Last night you peeked into the totality of yourself. But that's of course a meaningless statement for you at this moment. Obviously arriving at the totality of oneself is not a matter of one's desire to agree, ...

*******

So consider, everything in the books is perfectly normal and fully accessible to you, but as a beginner we read it as a "great accomplishment of spiritual beings far beyond our comprehension".

And that taints our motivations, with religious pretending.

You can do stuff like that all by yourself, although it won't be as stable as when a Nagual deliberately pushes your assemblage point to a specific location.

When you have to move it yourself, you get variations and wobbles.

I suppose a good thing to keep in mind is that "seeing" outdoors, comes one tiny effect at a time. Just like darkroom!

You find something which "can't possibly be there", and gaze at it to cause your assemblage point to move.

Learn to see using darkroom, but eventually you need to learn to see all the time, because otherwise there isn't enough practice time in the day.

If don Juan slaps your back, suddenly you're in Fairy Land!

It's somewhat like the effect of magic mushrooms. Our drugless silence technology can produce just as vivid results, except that it's under your own power and you can end it whenever you like.

So it doesn't feel quite as drastic as a "heroic dosage".

Which could be good because you don't want to end up like this guy:

When you do it yourself, you have to stop your own internal dialogue. Which sucks big time until you've done it thousands of times.

And also you have to stop interfering with things, and let whatever will show up just happen on its own.

At that point, the enemy of things happening naturally so that you can learn to see, are "the wise words of Master Po."

Mystical sales brochures. Sacred scrolls.

Any expectations or taint from outside systems which are clueless about reality, will cloud your vision of what's really there.

And what's really there, is a moment by moment thing. Not something fixed, like a giant purple snail shell.

That idea of a fixed "spiritual reality" above this one, is a very harmful concept.

It's precisely what blocks viewing sorcery realms.

Here's an example. I was viewing this, before I got up to go to work.

At the time it seemed very meaninful.

But later I realized, the only meaningful thing was that I could view it, awake. And examine it in detail for ten minutes.

It's the skills we seek, not Tales of Power.

[u/Low_Blacksmith_934]

That's so interesting I hadn't heard anything about this spiral shell before, or maybe I just don't remember. What does simulating the Nagual's blow even mean? Like, should I just intend for my assemblage point to shift, or ask the inorganic beings in the dark room to do it for me?

[u/danl999 → u/Low_Blacksmith_934]

Darkroom moves the assemblage point the right way. All that can stop it from moving, is your internal dialogue.

And so far, no one's gotten out of doing hard work to move it. You can't just ask.

BUT...

I suppose you can go outside and shout "INTENT! INTENT!!! INTENT!!!!"

Carlos advised that. But then he made fun of a woman who did it too many times at his home on Pandora, suggesting she was howling at the moon all night long, like a wolf.

So maybe just do it once?

That's the "asking" we can get away with.

Carlos once said in a lecture, "Accustom yourself to shouting out your intent to the force. Don't supplicate! If you go down on your knees, it'll piss on you".

And Carlos warned that the universe is sentient and vast, but "the mistake is to be supplicating or begging, because then it's just going to stomp you down*"*

The witches said similar things.

Worse, to even ask the inorganic beings you'd have to have moved it at least 6 inches down your back already. The IOBs aren't visible up at that blue line region.

But recapitulation moves it too, as long as you aren't just sitting there running your internal dialogue while you're doing it.

And tensegrity alone, without the darkness, will move it at least 8 inches if you make a reasonable effort to stop your internal dialogue and do 1 hour of continuous unique tensegrity. It's just that 8 inches isn't enough, in a well lit room, to produce the spectacular results that remove all doubts.

You'll still get back some energy from recapitulation by going over your life, but you'll never reach intermediate stages of recap unless you emphasize stopping your internal dialogue during recap. Just as we have to do, during Tensegrity.

It was the #1 emphasis of Carlos for Tensegrity practice. It just got removed by Cleargreen and people forgot.

Intermediate stages of recap even include time travel! You literally end up in the memory of the past, able to walk around as if it's a play you can't change.

So you want to get out of the beginner's range of recap, using silence, or you're wasting a lot of practice time.

And simulating the Nagual's blow means moving your assemblage point around the outside of the egg, instead of down the middle as the picture Carlos drew showed us.

[u/Low_Blacksmith_934 → u/danl999]

Thanks, it takes a lot of practice to shut off the internal dialogue while doing the passes. I usually end up thinking about whether I did the move right or how to do the next one, but I’m working on it.

I’ve actually had some real experiences in the darkroom, and I’ve come to the conclusion that the best practice even for women is the darkroom itself. The results I got from it were better than anything I got from dreaming of the womb. Of course, that might just be my personal take and it could be different for other people.

Recapitulation is awesome. When I do it, I have way more energy for darkroom practice. I never even thought reviewing my life would matter that much, and I only recently started doing it.

About that point you made about not begging it’s right there in the books too. You’re always supposed to state your intent with authority. That’s the complete opposite of what a lot of religions teach people, where they beg and plead to some made up god and never get anywhere.

[u/danl999 → u/Low_Blacksmith_934]

Praying can get you to the green zone, and then sustained praying can propel you into heaven, in a waking dream. And it's stable and you're fully rational. It's not an out of control sleeping dream.

Or it can bring you directly to the feet of God himself! But my experience suggests it takes something eternal to "push" you there, while you're in the state to visit heaven.

A lightning bolt striking very near your home can do it!

But heaven is much easier. I even used it to cure hangovers in Asia on business trips, where you often have to drink near lethal amounts of alcohol to seal a deal.

No problem... Just sit in the waiting room of heaven and the hangover is irrelevant.

And you can do that awake, with other people around. They just think you're meditating or resting your eyes.

Bottom line: You can pray without begging. But it takes a sorcerer or witch to do that.

[u/Low_Blacksmith_934 → u/danl999]

So do lightning bolts actually have power? Like a place of power, or is it just because they create that fear that pushes you into the state? In Asia it’s easy to do since people there are usually into meditation and prayer. Though I’m also around that area myself, unfortunately, and I pretty much know how they are.

[u/colourful_fiasco]

It's funny you mention McKenna, I reckon he would have fit right in here tbh. I always wondered if he knew CC.  It's a damn shame this stuff isn't more widely known but maybe it'll get "weirder and weirder" like McKenna says and people will wake up to the fact that the river of filth is the wool that's been pulled over their eyes.