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Literally the friendliest smile in the world 🥰

Ok hear me out, random realisation during the series finale over the scene where Marion gets suspicious of Gene on the phone while he's telling her Jeff has been arrested. He starts mentioning Albuquerque law... Now sure, it makes sense that this sets off alarm bells for Marion who is quite astute. But I think the final breaking point for her is caused by him saying "Albuquerque" in an energetic, heated way, you know, the way Saul used to say it in his TV ads, "I'll fight for you, Albuquerque!".

I think, in addition to the intellectual case she's been working on in the background, her suspicion seeing Gene in the garage from her bedroom window and now him having detailed knowledge of the legal system in Albuquerque, the auditory cue jogged her distant memory of being exposed to those ads.

I started watching BCS 2 weeks ago after telling myself I'd watch it for over a decade and firstly, it's gone alot better than I thought I'd be. That pilot was probably my favourite pilot I've ever seen aside from Prison Break off the top of my head.

I'm currently on S3 E8 as I've been binging it alot, Saul was always my fav character in BB well before this spinoff was even created so seeing him as a main character is even better to me than Walt and how they go about writing this show is very different than BB is a great way.

So far there's been no crazy action, no big character deaths, but I can say I like it better than Breaking Bad already, not saying it IS better, just that I'm more interested in the day to day life of Jimmy more than I was the drug drama with Walt.. but both are great.

My one BIG gripe with this show that has been bugging me alot is Mike. Mike is a perfect example of how easily you can go from liking a character to disliking them (or vice versa) simply by how they are placed in a show.

Mike is a simple character, an extremely simple character, and his scenes worked in BB because he wasn't remotely close to a main character almost all his scenes weren't from his perspective but from either Jesse's, Walt's, or sometimes even Gus' and toward the end even Hank.

And even the scenes where he was the focus were very brief and concise and to the point.

Him being THIS MUCH of a focus on BCS was cool until about halfway through season 1, then I found its just the same stuff over and over again, Mike is always doing 1 of 3 things... he's either camping out in his car watching someone, or he's in the desert or somewhere odd doing/planning something odd that we can more context to later on (like the spikey water hose, or the shoes on the power line) or he's being a good grampa... 2 of these types of scenes involve no dialogue and no other person and all 3 of these scenes become extremely repetitive after a while.

I'm halfway through s3 and he's still doing the exact same stuff I just don't get how this is supposed to be interesting for 6 seasons straight but maybe its just me.

Aside from that, I already think Nacho has done enough to be one of the best character in the franchise, because he's not overly shown like Mike so everytime he's on screen its something new and pushes the plot and he's also very unpredictable because clearly he's loyal to no one but himself and his father and he's a "bad guy" with some honorable traits.. a fresh perspective from BB villains.

Chuck vs Jimmy, Howard, and Kim are all aspects of this show that I think are part of why I like it more than Breaking Bad along with obviously the story of Jimmy and seeing how he hustles his way into where he was at the start of Breaking Bad.

Looking forward to finshing this show probably in the next 2 weeks

What do you think Chuck really meant by this line? Did his strong resentment of his brother mean that even in a cataclysmic family moment, one in which Jimmy was grieving, he could only interpret his brother's raw humanity with a malicious edge?

To me it paints a picture of Jimmy having a lot of love for his father, despite their differences.

We don't know much about Lydia, other than that she is so uptight she probably has a woodchipper for a coochie, but it is notable that she is VERY concerned about her daughter "finding her" instead of thinking she abandoned her, and I seem to recall her saying something that sounded like she was very afraid of her daughter going to a foster home/orphanage. Those two fears have led some to speculate that Lydia was abandoned as a child.

Well, the other night I was watching clips of the show on Youtube, like you do, and I noticed something I never had before - the statue on Lydia's desk.

This is a miniature copy of Edgar Degas' "Little Dancer, Aged 14" - a sculpture depicting a young ballerina, but there's more to it than meets the eye.

While nowadays we think of ballet as a hobby for girls from rich or middle-class families, in the 1880s when it was originally made, no respectable girl or woman would perform on stage in any capacity, and dancers, singers, and actresses were usually from poor backgrounds. The particular ballerina who modeled for "Little Dancer" was impoverished, her father had died and her mother was a washer woman with three daughters to feed, all three of whom became ballet "rats" - low ranking, young apprentices - to earn income for the family, and maybe eventually rise to become famous ballerinas, or at least become the mistress of a rich man (if they didn't fall in to straight-up prostitution first)

Anyways, I think the art department knew the story behind the "Little Dancer" and deliberately included it as a subtle hint that Lydia was at some point abandoned/orphaned, spent some time in an "apprenticeship", climbed the ranks to her current position, and maybe became Peter Schuler's mistress somewhere along the way.

I know it’s unneeded because we know what happens after this point, but an episode or two of showing Saul as we knew him just before the events of breaking bad would’ve been amazing as he was my favourite BB character. We got flashbacks during the ‘epilogue’ of season 6 but wish we could’ve had more. Anyone else feel the same?

Both are unarmed and there are no weapons around them. Huell is reasonably unhappy.

Who wins?

After 3 or 4 run throughs of BCS and god knows how many of BB, am definitely of the opinion that BCS is the better show. Everyone involved simply improved, and the show is so slick and well produced in every sense.

My only gripe on my most recent run through is how they dealt with the culmination of Lalo and Gus' storyline. Nacho's storyline ended sort of passably, given the plot restraints, but I always feel like Gus shooting Lalo didn't do either character justice.

I feel like Gus would have had some master plan or trap that Lalo walked into - the blind luck of shooting Lalo in the dark seems very out of character.

Any fan theories on how they could have written that differently?

Sorry if this is a frequent post on here, I'm new to the sub .

Random rewatch noticings, part 162... Don Eladio summons Gus to the hacienda to challenge him with Hector's statement. He says when he looked in Gus's eyes he saw hatred, then warns him that a little bit of hatred is OK, as long as he remembers who's boss.

Straight away we get a scene with Gus and Mike, where the latter clearly wants everything to settle down after all the mayhem of Lalo's return, Howard's death, etc. But Gus tells him to start finding a new construction crew straight away. As Mike turns to walk away, the two share a look - and it seems to me that this is the same as the look between Gus and Eladio, only with the tables turned. A little bit of hatred, but remember who's boss.

Mike is initially reluctant to work with Gus because to him he's no different to the Salamancas - he hasn't threatened Mike's family, but he's cut from the same cloth, harms innocent people, etc. Eventually, the money (and the fact Mike is focused on the construction work) wins him over. But then Mike has to kill his friend Werner because of Gus and he realises he too is the bad guy. So I'm sure there is a little bit of hatred there too.

Both men are forced to work for someone they consider repulsive, because it's the only choice they have - both consider themselves a cut above the guy they're working for, but both know deep down they are not.

That man is beautiful

SPOILER!!!!!

Second episode of the fourth season.

Why does Kim get so fiercely angry with Howard at the end of the episode—accusing him of trying to offload his guilt onto Jimmy?

In reality, Howard took the blame for Chuck’s suicide, given that he was the one who wanted to fire him.

I honestly don’t understand Kim’s outburst, nor Jimmy’s response.

J'ai presque fini Breaking Bad et chaque fois que j'en discute avec quelqu'un, il dit que Better Call Saul est mieux. Comment cela peut-il être mieux que Breaking Bad ? Pour moi, c'est le numéro 1 (Breaking Bad).

1.if jimmy didn’t hear that old lady talk about her allowance Hamlin wouldn’t have died and chuck wouldn’t have killed himself.
2.if walter didn’t hire Saul Hank wouldn’t have died.
Tell me other bcs and brba butter fly effects!

i played the final season blurays and idk why they have this problem of region codes. They have the "abc" thing on the disks, i dont understand, they all from the same box collection, help, i dont wanna spend more money in vain this shi scks and make no sense to me 😭

Bob getting nominated 6 times and missing out everytime. Him not winning for saul gone in his final chance is a joke. Same for rhea seehorn who didn't get an emmy for waterworks. Atleast she got one for pluribus. jonathan Banks didn't get one for Five-O either.

Also Michael McKean didn't even get nominated for Chicanery. WHAT A SICK JOKE!!

Siéndome 100% honesto, crees q soy el único q ve a Danny Aiello muy parecido a Saul Goodman? (2 primeras fotos Danny, 2 últimas Saul). Siempre que vi a Danny se me venía a la cabeza Saul

What was your reaction when you first saw the monochrome visuals. For both first time viewers and for the ones that watched it after Breaking Bad. And also keeping this effect for the final episodes of the series.

Did the first scene/last episodes make more invested, curious, a bit annoyed or make you roll your eyes a move on/go to another show.

I know that this effect has it's own symbolism and that some objects keep their original colors like Saul's add or the fire from Kim's cigarette but I'm more interested as an overall presentation at first glance.
Do you think that if it was more predominant or lasted for more episodes would've lost it's impact? Made you wish that it had colors? What was your first impression when this effect was shown in the first minutes of the show(mainly for first time viewers that didn't watch BB)?

Your answers/opinions would help a lot for a personal project! :)

And yes, I for one liked this approach of storytelling.

You’re Gene and your accomplice Jeff has been arrested. You try to go to Marion to keep things unsuspecting. Marion confides how Jeff has made her upset when he lived in Albuquerque. You tell her the bail rules in Albuquerque. It’s odd, for a Nebraskan, you oddly know well about Albuquerque. You’re driving to Marion’s happy that your con is going well singing along the car’s radio. But little do you know Marion found out through an internet search that you’re no other than SAUL GOODMAN, A WANTED CRIMINAL! You’re caught off guard you’re trying any possible way to stop her calling the police and to force her to comply with your con. You made a garrote, you grab her pager, and you are about to lay hands on an old woman. Marion tells you “I trusted you”. After fighting with Kim, you went on a downward spiral and you went back to a life of conning. You’ve stripped away your morals. You drug your victims and then break into their houses to steal. My con victim has lung cancer? So be it! I’ll steal from him too. Yet, that “I trusted you” resonates somewhere within you. A part of you that initially gave legal counsel to elderly because you hated being a public defendant. Oddly, you started growing fond of your elderly friends. You oddly enjoyed talking to them while looking at their hummels. Entertaining them with bingo and other activities. Elderly would treat you like you were their son. They oddly accepted you as Jimmy not “Slippin’ Jimmy”. You were helping writing a will for Irene who tells you that she’s broke, and you suspect something isn’t right so you go into a dumpster and discover Sandpiper is overcharging their elderly residents. You started a lawsuit for their sake. You wanted to cash in the money early so you convince Irene to end the lawsuit early, but Irene’s friends all hate her, so you reopen the lawsuit by publicly humiliating and shaming yourself that you instantly lost all of your elderly friends. That part of you that is yelling at you that you’re about to harm a defenseless elderly woman. You thought you had suppressed your conscience all the way, yet, those few words reawakened it and briefly reawakened Jimmy McGill, friend of the elderly. All this happened within a couple of seconds and made you hesitate. Yet that hesitation was what got you finally arrested.

Bravo Paul Gould and Vince Gilligan for communicating so much with very little. And especially bravo Bob Odenkirk for not just acting with your actions and with your face but with your eyes too.

dude said this and immediately had a psychotic break, set his house on fire, and killed himself...right

I know this is a BCS community but I feel I had to ask.

Hot take but I thought it would be cool if the colors started reappearing as he is walking into court or maybe when he says its showtime with the thought of confessing to everything.

The black and white colors for gene made sense because of his depressing life and what he degraded into. Also for kim in waterworks when her new life is absolutely miserable

Anytime I think of the track for this video, it's, "man this is a banger. shame that i dunno its origins"

If anyone knows, then cheers!

What if in Season 6 after Howard died, the roles were swapped. Kim had little emotion and Jimmy felt terrible and felt that Chuck was right. What if he broke up with Kim, and Kim embraced her "Giselle" persona. How would this affect the overall universe timeline?