r/apple • • 4d ago

iPhone iPhone Duo Durability Test - DONT DO THIS

https://youtu.be/5laDGy4INB0?is=DgKzbV-Gxmvd7Ztz
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u/gtsk2f 4d ago

u/bloodwalker09 the new YouTube sharing feature is a privacy nightmare.

YouTube > Profile Pic (bottom-right) > Settings (top-right) > Privacy > disable “Channel visibility for shared links”.

I was able to see your whole account from the link you shared.

Thanks for the vid!

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u/Bloodwalker09 4d ago

Oh that's good to know. It's a secondary YouTube only account but yeah that sucks.

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u/Bad_Droid 4d ago

I don’t even have a YouTube account, but despite that I want to thank you for posting this reply.

We need more of this behaviour. Thank you.

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u/TrailOfEnvy 4d ago

Why would they do that? I have similar experiences with Instagram and Facebook. But that's Meta being the shittiest company.

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u/Spez_is-a-nazi 4d ago

Because they make money by spying on people. Google is as shitty as Facebook, they just have better PR.

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u/TestFlightBeta 3d ago

You do know that Reddit started this a long time ago?

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u/MikeyMike01 4d ago

Google is as bad—or worse—than Facebook

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u/thethirdteacup 3d ago

Becuase every video sharing platform has to copy the worst features from TikTok.

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u/VancityRenaults 4d ago

Is this only for Android? On my iOS YouTube I don’t see this option under Privacy. https://i.imgur.com/1Bg5Ka0.jpeg

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u/gtsk2f 4d ago

I’m on iOS 27 with YouTube ver. 21.41.5 and it’s visible in my settings.

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u/professorex 3d ago

Weird. I'm on iOS 27 with YT 21.42.4 and it's not there for me

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u/solsiour 4d ago

Is this on mobile only? As I can't seem to find the option on desktop.

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u/pw5a29 4d ago

Is it an A/B testing feature? Cos it's not an option in my settings right now

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u/its_yahboya 4d ago

Thank you for this

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u/insane_steve_ballmer 3d ago edited 3d ago

Whenever you share a link from any app, make sure to look for a question mark or & symbol in the URL and delete it and everything that comes after.

Links are usually constructed something like this:

www.website.com/v=actual content?shid=tracking bullshit

Also just delete the Youtube app entirely, download the Brave browser and enjoy ad-free youtube with PiP and locked screen audio playback without having to pay for Premium

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u/YZJay 1d ago

Some apps like Tik Tok just uses a custom link that includes both tracker and the content link so there’s no way to remove the tracker unless you manually opt out of it in the settings.

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u/LS_DJ 3d ago

Thank you

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u/boryoku 2d ago

Thank you for this!

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u/wontellu 4d ago

I can’t even look at this guy’s thumbnails without getting that sensory discomfort just from imagining the utility knife scratching the screen.

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u/gabzmog 4d ago

Reading this comment..I could hear the screeching sound of blade against the chrome.

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u/Endawmyke 4d ago

The sound of the blade on the metal peels my teeth.

I have to skip past it every time

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u/Fuckin2FA 3d ago

Ironically premium has started to let me skip it cuz its a frequently skipped section 😂

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u/Ardcroney_G 3d ago

Same. Horrific

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u/Nitrohite 3d ago

It’s the sand and dirt inside the foldables’ hinges that makes me squirm just by thinking about it

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u/FinsFan305 3d ago

As a frequent beach goer, I almost passed out when I saw that.

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u/MrHedgehogMan 4d ago

Same here. And that goes for all the other creators that do the same thing.

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u/captain_brofist 3d ago

Why watch him then? It’s just clickbait for tribal bullshit.

There’s very little science behind it other than breaking shit porn.

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u/Aaawkward 3d ago

I mean it's pretty decent durability test (even if an extreme version), especially seeing how there're literally no others performing any tests that are even remotely similar.

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u/bomphcheese 3d ago

Upvote for self awareness.

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u/wontellu 3d ago

I watched probably one or two of his videos. It's not that I dislike him (I actually follow his socials), it's that as soon as he brings out the scratching tools I can't keep watching, it literally gives me goosebumps.

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u/Aaawkward 3d ago

Kinda wild that a bit of silly whimsy is being seeing as cringe.

You do you but dang, it's nice for Youtubers to have any personality.

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u/kellyjepsen 4d ago

Crazy he scratched the white one, but then removed the nano texture from the black one … I wanted to see what those scratches did to the layers behind that nano texture!

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u/element515 3d ago

Yeah, is he keeping the black one for himself? lol. We all know the nano texture will scratch. He even talked about the glass in the folding screen. The only interesting thing was to see if it would scratch without the first layer

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u/Objective_Swing160 3d ago

He usually does a durability test on one phone and a tear down of the other. At least when he’s worried the device will not survive the durability test (see: pixel fold)

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u/leodw 4d ago

Anyone else kinda surprised about the sand test? I know he poured a handfull of dust on the hinge so obviously that would cause problems, but I was under the impression IP68 meant the phone can withstand dust actually preventing it from functioning?

I get that the inner screen can be easily scratched by sand on a beach, but it seems the major problem is dust getting inside the hinge… so does that mean it’s not truly IP68?

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u/Time_Entertainer_319 4d ago

It’s a technicality Google and Apple exploit.

The hinge is said to not be inside the phone so they exclude it from the rating assessment.

Seems Samsung is the only honest one

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u/Top_Flight2 3d ago

Samsung is more honest is being noted for me. Thanks for explaining this. 

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u/OphioukhosUnbound 3d ago

That depends on whether their phone can pass the by-the-letter ip68 test. If it can, and they intentionally downgrade themselves to better communicate limitations that would be quite somethign .... but if that were true I'd imagine there'd be more of an asterix -- as ip68 still matters, it's more that the test doesn't cover certain things that might be expected.

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u/flatbuttboy 4d ago

It’s not really an exploit if that’s all that’s required for the test, maybe it just needs to be updated for foldables

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u/Creative-Captain9278 4d ago edited 3d ago

It's a massive marketing exploit of how IP ratings actually work.

To get that "6" in IP68, the phone just sits completely still in a dust chamber. As long as dust doesn't reach the sealed internal logic board, it passes. The test completely ignores external mechanical parts like hinges.
When you take a foldable to the beach, sand gets trapped inside the moving gears of the hinge.

The moment you fold it, that grit grinds against the mechanism and destroys it, even if the dust never technically "entered" the electronics.
They are basically leveraging a static lab test to slap "Dust-Proof" on the box, knowing damn well that real-world sand will still brick the hinge.

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u/poopyheadthrowaway 3d ago

That's why it's called an exploit, not a cheat

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u/JamesR624 2d ago

It's a HUGE fucking exploit. The fact that the people in charge of the rating doesn't make it not one, it just means they're in on it with Apple and Google to market these devices that are clearly not suitable for "the real world", as "ready" to get people to pay $2000 for a device that CANNOT STAND UP to normal use in the real world.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 2d ago

Lmao what????? Are you fucking okay?

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u/gtedvgt 3d ago

This is now the 2nd time samsung has surprised me with how "virtous" they are, at least as in these 2 very specific cases.

The 1st time was when I found out samsung for every phone past the note 7 has had higher battery cycle ratings for their phones, and if made perfect sense to me because my s21 ultra had better battery health than some of my family's iphones even though they were newer.

I'm so curious about stuff like this because for the note 7 maybe there was a strict internal policy to always focus on batteries or something, but I seriously can't imagine them giving a fuck about technically lying to get their ip rating, maybe they just don't know about it?

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u/Ericjuuh 3d ago

Funny that you mention this because I had the exact opposite. My samsung s21 ultras battery gave up so fast that I switched to iPhone and never looked back. Maybe it was then just an issue on my side?

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u/Ftpini 2d ago

Or more likely is that Samsung doesn’t have the same quality seal over the “internal” component as the competition. Given the weakness of the hinge point to intrusion it may simply not be worth the effort of pro pusher proofing for the internal components.

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u/Humancentipede2lover 1d ago

So that means getting sand in the hinge doesnt count as a warranty case?

Tbh, that would be a scam

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u/film_digital 3d ago

I had no idea about this and that seems like a huge exploit for consumers who think the Duo can withstand rough environments (construction workers, etc.)

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u/u7q_1842x 3d ago

Google's at least handled the dust/sand better, though this isn't a scientific test at all.

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u/Glebun 3d ago

this is completely made up and false

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u/Shkkzikxkaj 4d ago

The IP68 test for dust has the phone static, so the folding mechanism doesn’t get exposed to dust while in operation.

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u/Yellow_Bee 4d ago edited 3d ago

Which is exactly why Samsung doesn't advertise IP68 rating even though their device meet that exact spec... (they purposely chose IP48 as a warning to consumers)

Samsung at least understood that to the layperson they'll assume IP68 applies to the folding hinge mechanism, whereas the rating is only true for a static device like current slab phones.

Apple prematurely/irresponsibly went the Google route of "me first" by claiming that their device is technically IP68 when they knew the rating is flawed/needs updating for foldables.

Honestly, I was half expecting Apple to innovate in this area by setting a whole new standard, one that the rating consortium would adopt (not the case if you watched their keynote). This is why most tech journalists shouldn't be trusted, they dunked on Samsung without understanding the nuance of how the IP rating system works (it was obvious w/ the Pixel Fold).

TL;DR: Samsung's IP48 rating (which technically meets IP68) is actually more responsible since it actually accounts for the folding mechanism (it's a physics problem). Apple went the lazy "technically correct" corporate route like lazy screen manufactures do with HDR support (which is arguable anti-consumer & very un-Apple).

Edit: comparisons like these will continue to pop-up, not a good look for Apple/John... https://youtu.be/u37MCjv3_DY

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u/Shkkzikxkaj 4d ago edited 4d ago

Phone manufacturers also consider it accidental damage instead of a defect if you get water damage, despite the water rating… it’s weird that this is the standard in the industry to advertise your phone can resist water/dust but then blame the consumer when the resistance fails.

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u/OphioukhosUnbound 3d ago

Apple coasting on reputational inertia sounds believeable to me.

Any reference that shows that samsung's foldables technically do pass ip68 -- I haven't even heared android users mentioning this. And I'd naively imagine they'd say something liek ip68/ip48 to communicate this, rather than just downgrading themselves without explanation. (As static ip48 vs 68 is still a meaningful stat.)

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u/SirBill01 3d ago

So you can drop a ZFold in a swimming pool for ten minutes and it'll be fine?

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u/fairtonybeta 4d ago edited 4d ago

Seems like a glaring omission in the standard then. Maybe there should be some new levels to the test to rank ‘operation of movable parts’.

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u/Injustice_Warrior 4d ago

That’s not actually the point of 60529 though.

The standard is about electrical safety so IP6X is about potentially conductive dust not being able to enter the electrical enclosure and potentially cause electrical faults (which might in turn lead to the user getting a shock or the device catching fire).

Whether or not you can get away with dust getting in the hinge would then depend on the end product standard as they might have different requirements for what constitutes a failure.

For example, for medical devices (my expertise) the manufacturer would have to separately risk assess the result to ensure it doesn’t cause an unacceptable risk. I have no experience testing phones though (which I assume come under the IT/AV equipment standard).

Source: this is my job.

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u/TheBlueNovember 3d ago

Such a valid question and the comments are so good. Everyone else is bitching that he did this or poured it directly into the hinge. But that was super valid because someone’s gonna hear IP68 and do something or take this phone somewhere and get fucked

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 3d ago

It’s getting stuck in the area between body and hinge cover. It looks like it all came out before he bent it

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u/cookedart 3d ago

No, I'm not surprised. There are other foldables that have claimed ip68 (like the pixel) that sand could still enter the hinge. I figured there was a very high chance the duo would have the same issue.

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u/Masson011 3d ago

Unless you work in an office I just cant see how anyone could get a duo like this

Shits going to get into the hinge and overtime youve got big problems. Theres nothing you can do about it

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u/OphioukhosUnbound 3d ago

We've got 8ish years of foldables.
I'm curious how apple hinge compares to others and what livability is like in practice for others.

I'm surprised we don't get more 'used experience' comparisons from the almost a decade of foldables out there when this stuff comes up.

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u/Outlulz 3d ago

My husband has had foldables for about 6 years now. His first Samsung did get some gunk in the hinge that was keeping it from closing after about a year which he got fixed under warranty. Other than that I think he's had 3 or 4 different foldables with no issues. This includes a couple Hawaii vacations that included going to the beach.

The fact is Jerryrigeverything does not test normal usage, he tests extremes. Yes, if you bury your phone in the sand it's going to have problems due to the hinge. Try not to bury your phone in the sand.

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u/picastchio 3d ago

This test covers the case when you ever drop your phone on a natural dirty surface. So unless you spend 365x24 in a concrete jungle...this is relevant.

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u/thesandman00 3d ago

Yes. That's the point of why he does that. The hinge on this thing is a big miss this year.

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u/Peenork 3d ago

I would've been curious to see attempts at cleaning; like if it's otherwise waterproof, what would the hinge be like after a quick blast of air or a rinse? Can the hinge be dipped in an ultrasonic cleaner?

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u/SirBill01 3d ago

looking at my Duo hinge I am just not seeing how sand or water can get in there at all. I don't think in real life very much if any dust/dirt is going to get in there.

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u/scubac14 3d ago

These tests are so dumb. How this guy got famous doing dumb tests makes no sense. If you like watching tech be destroyed on purpose. Okay sure. If you’re expecting g any useful amount of day to day wear on a phone tests go somewhere else.

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u/Creative-Captain9278 4d ago

To those people asking why you shouldn't bring your Duo to the beach, now you have your answer

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u/techsuppork 2d ago

Did anyone ask that?

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u/sgtabn173 4d ago

Honestly what he does with the sand makes me avoid all folding phones

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u/Far_Range_6091 4d ago

Galaxy fold 7 and 8 passed the sand test.

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u/Lucky_Outside_2009 4d ago

It's a shame so many people will miss out on the wonderful Samsung Folds thinking Apple's Duo is the standard for foldables yet it's so shit.

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u/Viktor_Fury 3d ago

People who know Samsung exist I highly doubt actually consider Samsung hardware as bad or worse here.

The issue is Android. I have an Oppo Find N6 and it’s just objectively better than the Duo in hardware. The software though? Sucks ass.

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u/SpeakingTheKingss 3d ago

Yup, it’s all about the software. I’d gladly use a Samsung phone if Apple let them use their OS.

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u/kasakka1 2d ago

I moved from iPhone to Samsung foldables and prefer the software. Using a Fold 7 atm for well over a year.

I have found iOS to be very stagnant where it's not gaining any new features worth mentioning. Samsung OneUI is so highly customizable that I feel I can make it work the way I want, not the way Apple has decided I should use it.

Of course both have their own share of issues, but overall I feel more in control of my phone with Android. Performancewise I don't have any real complaints with either.

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u/GoobieDooobie 3d ago

I switched to the Fold 7 last year after being a long time Apple user and I have found Android to be just as easy.

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u/axellie 3d ago

Man if they had iOS I would consider them but they don’t.

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u/FailBait- 1d ago

Oh a lot of us are aware, and while Samsung makes great components (and I do really like the boxy style of Samsungs newer phones), I refuse to buy another Samsung consumer product ever again. A few years ago I bought a $1400 Samsung monitor, the original G9 49” model. 8 months in it had enough with an issue that EVERY unit had for that model (if you enabled 240hz, GSYNC AND HDR the SoC got overloaded and it started only drawing every other line, like CRT scan lines). Opened a case with Samsung they told me the fix was to buy the newer version that just releases at $2k (fun fact it had the same issue) and refused to do anything to help me. After that response I was done. The only remaining Smsung branded item in my house is a soundbar (that also still works/sounds great) that I’ve blocked from the internet so they can’t firmware update it and it can start sucking. After that thing dies never again.

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u/MidniteCowby 3d ago

There is no "test" though because he is not using a scientifically sound method with a clean lab environment with results that can be replicated on several units.

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u/Piersontheraven 3d ago

The world is not a clean lab environment, no one cares what would happen to their phone under perfect conditions. We all wanna see what's the worst case scenario

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u/Xylamyla 3d ago

It matters when you’re comparing the results. If you’re not testing in the same exact conditions, there’s no point in comparing results.

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 3d ago

As long as you aren’t intentionally forcing sand into it, or using it as a shovel, it should be ok.

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u/Creative-Captain9278 3d ago

Drop it accidentally while at the beach and you got sand in your hinge. Is that unrealistic?

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u/Dallaslum 3d ago

The damage could probably be avoided by cleaning the sand off before opening or closing the phone again

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u/rAppN 3d ago

Leave it in the car then

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 3d ago

Shake the phone, or tap it on the table the sand will fall out.

It looks like it’s sticking in the space between the phone case halves and the hinge, not in the actual hinge.

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u/SirBill01 3d ago

Then you rinse it off (or even just wipe it off) before you open it and it's fine.

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u/DeathByPetrichor 3d ago

This is why I’m genuinely considering that number swap thing so I can take a beater phone to the beach or hiking or something and use the duo all the other time. Probably worth the $10 for peace of mind

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u/TheOddEyes 3d ago

As someone who has frequent business trips to Arrakis, The Duo’s vulnerability to sand is a deal breaker to me

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u/mosquem 3d ago

I hate sand.

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u/Itchy_Chain_5889 3d ago

It gets everywhere.

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u/Canon_M50 3d ago

It’s coarse and rough

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u/beanlikescoffee 3d ago

I have a work trip to tatooine. You’re telling me I can’t grasp a fist full of sands and pour into the hinge of the phone?

Return.

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u/kasakka1 2d ago

I'm more of a farm worker and it's the drop tests on rocks that worry me more. I have to be constantly vigilant about graboids messing with me when I'm on sand.

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u/ExoMonk 1d ago

I think you mean snakeoids

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u/woxvirus 3d ago

Do you get buried in the sand in your business meetings?

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u/LZR0 3d ago edited 3d ago

It literally takes one grain of sand flying around to ruin the phone lol

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u/Physical-Program5325 3d ago

So most people’s pockets

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u/Ordinary_dude_NOT 3d ago

It’s Gen 1 device, there is only so much you can defend it. It will be perfect by Ver 3, like always.

Till then issues are issues.

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u/Goodoflife 3d ago

But every foldable has the same vulnerability, plus he could've tried washing the iPhone Duo after getting it dusty.

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u/pathalogicalMoron 3d ago

It's not a good enough reasoning, apple took years for a foldable and doesn't keep up with devices of way less price.

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u/SciGuy013 2d ago

That’s why I wouldn’t get any other foldable either

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u/jth94185 3d ago

Every phone would have sand issues….this is more like an extreme duress test

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u/SciGuy013 2d ago

I guess I can’t take my phone to the beach then since that’s extreme duress

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u/leafsforever811 3d ago edited 3d ago

So... just going to point out, that Jerry is one sided. While doing the test for the Z Fold 8, he uses a minimum amount of dirt on the inside screen and hinge. But when doing the same test with the Duo he uses a handful. And when using sand on the hinge he purposely goes up and down the hinge on the Duo making sure to effect it, while on the Z Fold 8 he adds the smallest amount. Not the same test as its not getting the same results.

Link to Z Fold 8 test.

Edit: posted similar comment in the Samsung Galaxy sub... Definitely not liking the comment. I own both a Z Fold and iPhone Duo. Have owned an iphone since the 3Gs upgrading each year to the new model and have been off and on with android for the funky phones. I in no way wanna say one is better than the other. Each has their own thing. But lets be genuine when doing reviews. Consumers need a level an non biased review.

Edited for spelling and changed z fold to samsung Galaxy sub

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u/Rbtywo30 3d ago

I thought you were being nit picky at first, but I went and watched the video and holy crap you are right. It’s like watching two different tests completely.

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u/leafsforever811 3d ago

Literally uses a handful on the Duo and then uses a small nickle size on the Z Fold but also dumps it off the screen before closing the Z Fold. When doing the hinge, he almost pushes the sand into the Duo up and down the hing. But on the Z Fold again uses a smaller amount and only closes the phone once before turning upside down letting out sand and then closing it a few times. Totally different and causing different results. Jerry is a android fan boy. So he rigs his tests in favor of android.

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u/Adventurous-Cattle53 3d ago

Apple didn’t bring in the cash

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u/Janzu93 3d ago

Hence the name "Jerry RIG Everything" (Yes, I know he's not Jerry. It's "Jerryrig Everything")

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u/Fuckin2FA 3d ago

Favor of android I mean look at the Pixel fold, didnt google create android? Pixel

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u/CaptainCobraBubbles 3d ago

One advertises the IP48 and the other advertises IP68. One is supposed to be basically sealed against that, the other isn't.

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u/Necessary_Purple_428 3d ago

Jerry isn't an android fanboy as much as he is an apple hater.

Regardless, the example you picked is cherry picked. He uses a ton of sand on the pixel fold and galaxy 8 fold ultra.

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u/massacre0520 3d ago

I just watched both videos, what are you going on about. I think its fairly tested in both, y'all are trippin'.

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u/OneWhoSeeksAdvice 3d ago

Jerry’s tests are not controlled and have variance. I think it’s better to look at iFixIt’s tests for things like dust in the hinge, they’re more methodical.

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u/Raveen396 3d ago

I think he’s just inconsistent, the Z Fold 8 Ultra test was pretty similar to the Duo test.

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u/mobyte 3d ago edited 3d ago

He’s not a scientific tester. He just fucks around, scratches phones with some picks, tries to break them with maximum pressure, and calls it a day. They’re really not high quality videos (when it comes to being valuable information) and it’s something anybody could do.

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u/Aaawkward 3d ago

They’re really not high quality videos (when it comes to being valuable information) and it’s something anybody could do.

I suppose so but nobody else is doing them.
It's nice to have at least some idea of the durability of phones.

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u/kasakka1 2d ago

I don't think it's reasonable to expect a highly scientific test for something like this.

Like are you supposed to measure your dust to a gram, make sure it has consistent amounts of small and big grains, pebbles etc? Have 10x $2000 phones lined up to consistently verify the results?

I find it still valuable to see what might happen if you scratch the phone with your keys, or drop it on a beach or somehow manage to sit on it or something.

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u/No-Entertainer9386 3d ago

This..... Let's ignore the fact that the Duo is supposedly a higher dust rating. It failed and did worse than the both the Fold 8 and Fold 8 Ultra.

The screen failed as well, just like people have reported already

The other glaring item (no pun intended) was how washed out the screen looked side by side when he took off the matte layer.

The glazers will ignore all these issues and call the tests rigged. Oh, that's already happened.

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u/marcdertiger 3d ago

Dust rating, not handfuls of sand rating. Meaningless test tbh.

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u/rewddit 2d ago

Yeah. I get being disappointed, but why distort reality? Samsung has a huge headstart on the hardware and it shows.

I've got my Duo, loving it so far, but I appreciate learning NOW that this is not the device to take to the beach.

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u/mpelton 3d ago

People really are defending it to their dying breaths.

Is it just sunk cost fallacy? I guess I’d defend it too if I paid like $2k lol.

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u/TheRealMakhulu 3d ago

He’s always been this way, his Apple product reviews are always underwhelming to him. The device would have to cure cancer for him to admit it’s a good product, there’s been maybe 2-3 times he’s even given them praise.

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u/Danger_Mysterious 3d ago

I mean he does everything but outright say “I don’t like apple phones” in the video…

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u/thedylannorwood 3d ago

Jerry has always been like this. He straight up stopped doing drop tests on iPhones because they kept passing all his tests but still kept praising Google and Samsung for years on how much more drop resistant they were to iPhones. I’m not sure he even does drop tests at all anymore

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u/coronakillme 3d ago

But when you see the Z fold video, it says "the phone is not dust resistant" as he reads the instructions. Iphone duo is supposed to be IP68 dust proof (according to him)

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u/leafsforever811 3d ago

The dust proof when they test is done with talcum powder. So going and dumping a handful of sand with rocks isnt the same. And when you test another phone and drop sand in the sreen but dump the sand off the screen... not the same test. Also not being genuine when you kinda rub the sand in and then open and close the the hinge a few times. Not sure about you, but if I knew I had dust or sand in my hinge I wouldn't be opening or closing it multiple times. I'd be rinsing it under water to flush it out seeing as its water resistant and can be rinsed to flush out those particles. Again... not being really genuine with the test.

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u/Fuckin2FA 3d ago

Well so why are you linking to the fold 8 and not looking at the pixel fold which share the same IP 68 dust resistance?

I mean its clear that the pixel fold also got the same dust treatment as the duo can see for youself here; Pixel Fold

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u/TheGreeneArrow 3d ago

I thought it was unfair that he did the bend test on the device with the large amount of dirt in it. He should have done it on the clean one.

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u/Outlulz 3d ago

IIRC he always does the bend test last on the same phone after all the tests so he's consistent there.

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u/jun2san 3d ago

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning this in the YouTube comments. Is he deleting them?

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u/Notaq 2d ago

For the Z Fold 8 Ultra, he uses the same amount of dust as the Duo video and spends roughly the same amount of time rubbing it into the spine. I guess he updated his test methodology at some point?

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u/gowingsgo 3d ago

When he bent it backwards and the inside screen cracked, it looked identical to “crack gate”. Are we experiencing people who accidentally fold it backwards lol

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u/VanillaFlavoredCoke 3d ago

My guess is people trying to flick the phone open like a classic flip phone.

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u/SirBill01 3d ago

It took WAY more force than juts flicking it open to cause it to crack.

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u/gowingsgo 3d ago

This too. I’ve seen people slamming them open lol

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u/AxeR-- 3d ago

If that's the case, this is even more concerning

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u/gowingsgo 3d ago

I mean half of the human population are kind of morons lol. I can see the phone being open on the couch. Grabbing it and not paying attention and they try and close it backwards

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u/The_Beardly 3d ago

That was what I thought too. So people are purposely bending the phones backwards and then saying it’s a design issue lol

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u/ExoMonk 1d ago

Samsung fold phones survived the backwards bend test. I think the Pixel fold did too, or at least the second iteration did I think.

In either case the moral of the story is never but gen 1 of anything.

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u/Ulysse-Void-God 3d ago

If you want durability you don’t get a folding phone. 

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u/F242 3d ago

So this means that when the phone is submerged the entire hinge assembly actually gets flooded with water which is interesting. I wonder what that’ll do to the lubricants used on the gears.

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u/roma79 3d ago

Mr Mobile already tested his in a swimming pool

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u/F242 3d ago

Sure but the hinge mechanism is still going to get wet. So any dirt + water is really going to be a problem over time. Apple rates the Duo’s dust and water resistance the same as the 18P and 18PM so technically you should be able to submerge the Duo in sand and then water and not be a problem which it obviously is.

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u/Remarkable_Log_5562 3d ago

As a sandman, I too am canceling my order

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u/rcrter9194 3d ago

Yeah it much be hard if you’re made of sand. 😂.

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u/Other_Team_866 3d ago

All these tech YouTubers are getting so annoying as of the last few years. All sell outs, and insufferable

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean 3d ago

I blame the algorithms. They’re just playing the visibility game forced on them.

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u/u7q_1842x 3d ago

Algorithms are based on data from people, in this case, what people generally click and watch.

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u/jun2san 3d ago

100% agreed. I used to like watching them and can't stand them anymore. I personally try to find videos of some random person who posts his thoughts about a product. The less fancy video production, the better.

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u/Alive_Wedding 3d ago

Or maybe just Jerry

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u/Other_Team_866 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nah, that MK whatever his name is, the black guy. And that unboxing dude, can’t recall his name, white guy with glasses? That’s how much I don’t pay attention to them

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u/Other_Team_866 3d ago

A sell out for competitors. Use your brain

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u/GTMoraes 3d ago

What I don't really like is how his hatred for apple gets in the way of what could be an actual durability test.

Why does he dump more sand in the display and hinges than any other foldable? Did the crapload of sand scratch the inner screen? Would clearing the sand from the magnets allow the phone to close? Why does the screen close sometimes after he said the screen wouldn't close anymore?

I prefer his teardowns rather than his durability tests, but I do understand the durability test is not scientific, it's done under his terms and it's meant to just bring views.

I find interesting that he's now considering getting an apple device. Of course he'll strap it on his knees and do the kneecopter every day and then say it's just something he always did with his previous phones with no issues, but I wonder if he'll eventually succumb.

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u/kitsua 3d ago

His durability and tear down videos are potentially valuable but his unnecessary snark really puts me off. His whole bit in this video about Apple claiming they invent things that already exist just isn’t true, Apple never mentioned any other device or technology or claimed they were the first for anything, it’s just another hater narrative.

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u/AngelicHanaKurusu 3d ago

I am not even a die hard Apple guy and prefer android, I only moved to apple last year because Apple Card

But I still hate all these people going “Apple claims this is the first foldable”blah blah. Literally look up a single commercial or do a modicum of research and it shows that’s not true, they say it’s the first iPhone/Apple foldable. They never claim this “first ever” thing everyone always spits out lmao it’s so stupid

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u/MrSh0wtime3 3d ago

hes one of the many people who have made politics their entire personality in the last few years. you should see his twitter account.

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u/korxil 3d ago

Why does he dump more sand in the display and hinges than any other foldable?

zfold ultra got just as much sand. half a cup for the inner display and he just pours the rest into the hinge directly. I would argue the duo got less dirt/sand in the hinge than the samsung.

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u/Yellow_Bee 3d ago

Also, Apple is the one claiming IP68 whereas Samsung claims IP48. So not surprising he'd put more sand on one with the bigger claim vs. the other with the lower claim. It's no different from testing the advertised depth.

Lastly, the finer the sand the more ardous the test. Meaning, it's the small fine sand you should be worrying about more, not how much you can see.

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u/marchalves6 3d ago

Something I've noticed is that the duo is getting way more hate than the foldable Androids, which are almost the same

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u/timelessblur 3d ago

It is because the Android have been out for years now but they went through the sane durability hate. Apple is new so they are taking it now.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy 3d ago

"hatred for apple"

I find his durability tests highly entertaining and I never read too much into it as to call the guy hateful. No one will ever do to a phone whatever he does to these devices, not by mistake anyway.

The Apple says that duo is scratch resistant so Jerry makes fun of this in his trademark way. It's meant as a joke. He does not do the same to the Z fold because samsung explicitly says that the screen IS NOT scratch resistant, so he treats the screen as such (making fun of it too, in his own way).

Lighten up folks.

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u/RapunzelLooksNice 3d ago

HOW?! HOLY GRAIL OF FOLDABLES IS UNDER SCRUTINY!!!11oneone /s

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u/GTMoraes 3d ago

How else could I describe his utmost despise against apple, in such way that it diverts good points that could be otherwise pointed out, in any other way than "hatred"?

In the end, Nelson is an entertainer. And he does it for entertainment. It's entertaining, but I don't really like when he skips the good stuff that could be potentially pointed out.
But I understand it... it's all entertainment.

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u/kai_al_sun 3d ago

I was looking forward to this video just for the inner screen scratch test. Was hoping Apple did a better job with it, but I guess there is only so much that can be done with the materials at hand. I'd be worried to use the apple pencil on this, it's going to scratch the hell out of the screen. I decided to skip it this year in hopes that they improve it next year.

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u/Tech_Philosophy 2d ago

The nanotexture filter is ugly as hell. Blurry and dulled colors. That's a no from me.

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u/ZeroVoltsGiven 3d ago

Title should be things i want to do on my 2k phone but can’t afford to do so.

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u/_Independent 3d ago

Not really a test. None of his “tests” are real tests.. it’s breaking stuff for clicks.. no owner of the duo would ever get in a situation like he tests

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u/subdep 4d ago

Phone snuff kink is weird

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u/InsertObligatoryPun 3d ago

I also found the ‘Apple treats every phone like it’s the first of its kind’ annoying when a good chunk of the keynote was spent doing the BlackBerry comparison.

The fingernail test was what I was most curious about though, and it’s an interesting compromise. Yeah, a fingernail will dent the screen, but the matte finish basically makes it invisible.

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u/DeathByPetrichor 3d ago

“Small minority”

Dude is one of the largest tech reviewers, to the point that now i think I’ve seen his videos mentioned in most of the other reviews I’ve seen this year.

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