r/anglish • • Feb 04 '19

🧹 Husekeeping (Housekeeping) WELCOME

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Welcome to the Anglish Reddit

This thread will hopefully answer many of the questions a newcomer might have. For the sake of newcomers and onlookers it will not be written in Anglish. While you are here you may also want to join the Anglish Discord, and check out our wiki. We have our own dictionary too (the Google Sheets version is here and the wiki version is here).


Rules

  1. No hatespeech.
  2. No NSFW content.
  3. Either write in Anglish or on Anglish. In other words, you can be off-topic if you write in Anglish, and you can write in normal English if you are on-topic.

FAQ

Q: What is Anglish?

A: Anglish means different things to different people, but here's what I draw from the foundational Anglish text 1066 and All Saxon, which was written by British author Paul Jennings and published in Punch magazine in 1966.

1) Anglish is English as though the Norman Invasion had failed.

We have seen in foregoing pieces how our tongue was kept free from outlandish inmingling, of French and Latin-fetched words, which a Norman win would, beyond askthink, have inled into it.

2) Anglish avoids real and hypothetical French influence from after 1066.

... till Domesday, the would-be ingangers from France were smitten hip and thigh; and of how, not least, our tongue remained selfthrough and strong, unbecluttered and unbedizened with outlandish Latin-born words of French outshoot.

3) Anglish avoids the influence of class prejudice on language.

[regarding normal English] Yet all the words for meats taken therefrom - beef from boeuf, mutton from mouton, pork from porc - are of outshoot from the upper-kind conquering French... Moreover the upper kind strive mightily to find the gold for their childer to go to learninghouses where they may be taught above all, to speak otherlich from those of the lower kind...

[regarding Anglish] There is no upper kind and lower kind, but one happy folk.

4) Anglish includes church Latin? If I'm interpreting the following text right, Jennings imagined that church Latin loans had entered English before his timeline splits.

Already in the king that forecame Harald, Edward the Shriver, was betokened a weakening of Anglish oneness and trust in their own selfstrength their landborn tongue and folkways, their Christian church withouten popish Latin.

5) Anglish is not in the orbit of the Mediterranean. I interpret this as meaning Anglish does not rely on Latin and Greek for coining new terms.

If Angland had gone the way of the Betweensea Eyots there is every likeliehood that our lot would have fallen forever in the Middlesea ringpath... But this threat was offturned at Hastings.

6) Anglish feels like it has mingled with other West Germanic languages more than normal English did.

Throughout the Middle Hundredyears Angland and Germany came ever more together, this being needful as an againstweight to the might of France.

Q: What is the point?

A: Some find Anglish fun or interesting. Some think it is culturally significant. Some think it is esthetically pleasing. It depends on who you ask.

Q: How do I learn Anglish?

A: Like any other language, you have to practice. Frequently post here, chat in one of the Anglish-only rooms on the Discord, translate things, write original works in Anglish, and so on. Keep the wordbook on hand so you can quickly look up words as you write. Do not worry if you are not good at distinguishing loanwords from the others, it is a skill most people develop quickly. Do not be afraid to make mistakes, there is no urgency.

Q: What about spelling?

A: You can see what we have come up with here.

Q: What about grammar?

A: English grammar has not been heavily influenced by French. Keep in mind that Anglish is supposed to be Modern English with less foreign influence, not Old English.


Style Guide

This community, and the sister community on Discord, has developed something of its own style. It is not mandatory to adhere to it, but if you would like to fit in here are some things to note:

  1. Making up words on the spot is discouraged unless their definitions are so obvious that they are not likely to be misunderstood.
  2. Extreme purism is discouraged. The original premise of Anglish was for it to be English minus the Norman Invasion, not 100% Germanic English. We encourage toleration of loanwords borrowed before 1066, as well as loanwords which refer to foreign places (like Tokyo), foreign people (like Mark Antony), foreign concepts (like karma), and foreign objects (like kimono).
  3. Be aware that Germanic languages often make compound words where Romance languages use adjectives. If you find yourself using -y constantly, that is a sign that you are aping Romance. So instead of directly translating glorious victory as woldry sye, consider making a compound like woldersye (glory-victory).

r/anglish • • Mar 29 '26

🧹 Husekeeping (Housekeeping) A reminder of what this Subreddit is all about.

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It seem people have gotten distracted or forgotten about the direction of this sub.

Please read the sidebar!

Anglish is supposed to be a continuation of Old English brought to a modern form without any French Loanwords, as if Willam had lost the battle of hastings by some miracle.

Old English, for those unfamiliar, is a heavy mixture of North Germanic (Norse), and West Germanic and even the odd word of Latin roots (mostly used by the church) carried over from the Roman Invasion.

I was inspired to this project/subreddit because I live in an area of the UK formerly called "the danelaw", rich with ancient history, and the village I live in itself has Viking origins. We have Iron age celtic ruins nearby and even prehistoric standing stones.

Please remember that Norse is a considerable part of Old English, and if you really want to complicate things, its likely it would have had dialects with more norse loans the further north you go.

West Germanic words would have been more numerous in the south of England where the unconquered Wessex was.


r/anglish • • 1d ago

🎨 I Made Þis (Original Content) Would you fly a flag for Old English? Asking learners what it should show

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I'm a hobby learner of Old English and I've been sketching a flag concept for the language. It isn't official and it isn't for any political group. It is just a symbol for people who read or learn the language.

My current idea is a plain white wyvern on a dark blue field. The wyvern links to Wessex and to the dragon in Beowulf. I kept it to two colours so anyone could draw it from memory.

Two questions:

  1. Would you fly or display a flag for Old English at all?

  2. If yes, what should be on it, and what should it avoid?

I'd also like to hear if the dragon feels right for the language, or if it points too much at Wessex and not enough at other dialects. Any view helps, including a flat no.


r/anglish • • 1d ago

✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) Myrkur- Leaves of Yggdrassil in Anglish

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Under the shady green
Leaves of Yggdrassil
Three Norns spin a thread so groatch
Hwate of man and gods they weave

The fairest maid in all the kingdom
Hair of silver snow and ice
Lives in the heart of every wyer
But man filt her heart's yitsel
With a frea-drif of love's fire

The hlude of true love
Never did irn smooth
How much longer can hey forbear
Life a-deld bitter youth

Lost in a land of a thousand fir-hyrst
Far away from her true love
He kissed her lips so blate and ruddy
She dreams till the sun up-rise
And then daylight blinds her heart

The fairest maid in all the kingdom
Hair of silver snow and ice
Lives in the heart of every wyer
But one filled her heart's yitsel
With a frea-drif of love's fire


r/anglish • • 1d ago

🎨 I Made Þis (Original Content) Anglisc Forenamewords?

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Hallo all,

'Ccab (Icc habb) been werkend/wercend on ane bord displaying my take on Anglisc Forenamewords (WIP), and icc need help filling in sum of hit, particularly the tholing fall of "thei", the 3rd-leed anefald reflexive, and ane offstemming of Proto-Indo-European *ō or Old English ēala, ēalā, ēlā, ēawlā, ǣlā, ǣalā, hēlā, hiġla, or ēale. Ewer thowts?


r/anglish • • 8d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Anglish for "directional"?

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My thoughts went to "wayward" but that's been taken by a meaning from "away-ward".


r/anglish • • 8d ago

✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) The Elptower by Robert E. Howard

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r/anglish • • 11d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Ƿ becoming V and Þ becoming Y

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So i've been hearing recently a lot of ideas on how if Ƿ survived, it would eventually end up looking exactly like a V
Same for Þ becoming Y, except this literally started happening IRL before the letter died out
(Ye Olde, for example)

I also feel like the Printing Press would cement versions like that, since printers could just use their existing molds for V and Y instead of having to make new ones for Ƿ and Þ

But the thing is, V and Y are existing letters
Rare in Anglisc, sure, but they still exist

For Ƿ i see 5 options:
A) U as a consonant still becomes V, and so V and Ƿ look the same but are different
B) U still becomes V, but the two letters Merge, and V can now make either a /v/ or /w/ sound
C) U still becomes V, and because Ƿ is so much more common, it gets assimilated and pronounced /w/ (So David is pronounced with /w/)
D) U never shifts to V, so U can either be a vowel or a consonant (Uiuian, Dauid)
E) U is changed to F instead to avoid ambiguity (Fifian, Dafid)

Similarly for Þ:
A) Uppercase Y and Þ look the same, but lowercase are different due to Insular font (y vs ɥ), so they're considered different letters
B) Y and Þ look the same but are considered different letters (Maybe a diacritic used to sunder them, like Ẏ for the vowel?)
C) The two letters Merge, and Y can now make either a vowel or /θ/-/ð/ sound
D) Y is changed to I instead to avoid ambiguity (Assiria)


r/anglish • • 11d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Invincible

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How would the book/show "Invincible" work in Anglish? I've got a few new names below

Conquest = Overthrow

Emperor Argall = Kaiser/Coaser Argall

Immortal = Undeadly

And as you know names such as Dupli-Kate and Rex Splode would need to be wended into something Anglish-friendly.


r/anglish • • 12d ago

✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) Robert Conquest's Third Law of Wieldcraft

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The behaving of any boardly husting can best be understood by guessing that it is being run by a hidden ring of its foes.


r/anglish • • 13d ago

Oðer (Other) How would the OE version of Valkyries be rendered into Anglish?

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Earlier I found that the Norse word valkyrja (whence the English borrowing valkyrie) is also found in Old English as wælcyrġe, with roughly the same meaning. Whether the word was borrowed into Old English faith is cloudy, but I was wondering what it would have become if it had stayed in English until today?


r/anglish • • 15d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Word for truke

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Truke is a portmanteau of truth and nuke. It's used, almost always as a joke, to mean a bombshell revelation.

Truth is already native, but nuke, short for nuclear, isn't. Nuclear means of the nucleus, the heart of the atom. The most common Germanic alternative for nucleus, going back to Poul Andersen, is kernel. A nuclear bomb would be something like a kernel splitter, which, if we're to shorten it, would be kern, which also just means kernel. We could portmanteau truth kern as truke.


r/anglish • • 15d ago

📰The Anglish Times Panama Struck By Earthquakes

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r/anglish • • 16d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Mindlore Speech: How to Overset "Neurodivergent" and "Neurotypical"?

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Hello again,

I am new here, so kindly lear me how to speak Anglish :)

I think the "Neuro-" prefix (forestick or forefast ?) could be overset to the suffix (afterstick or afterfast ?) "-mind" or "-minded".

The "-divergent" afterstick could be overset to the forestick "Other-", "Another-", "Else-", "Own-", "Sunder-", or "Sundri-".

The "-typical" afterstick could be overset to the forestick "Ilk-", "Kind-", "Bisen-", or "Token-".

I think I most like "Sundriminded" and "Bisenminded", because "sundry" has a sense like 'diverse, particular, and special', while "bisen" has a sense like 'model, symbol, type'.

The Bisenminded are daven (suitable) to the 'model / standard' folkway (custom / tradition), while us Sundriminded folk happen to be 'sundry' to such others; and we have some 'sundry' needs. Also, a bisen can be good or bad, and like with sundriness.

For kinds of sundrimindedness, how must we overset 'autism' and 'autistic'? 'Selfness' and 'selfish' are the staffly oversets, but do not have likeworthy senses.

Also with ADHD and ADD – 'Wanderminded' or 'Wonderminded' maybe?

What is your reading?

~Thanks beforehand!


r/anglish • • 16d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) about the word "eġe"

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the Old English word "eġe"(displacing Old Norse awe) would have survived as "ay" not "ey" or "eye" its natural in OE for a short "eġ" to have evolved to "ai/ay" like

reġn=rain

seġl=sail

weġ=way

eġlan=to ail


r/anglish • • 16d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) How to speel vixen, vain, and vat?

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According to Etymonline, "No native Anglo-Saxon words begin in v- except those (vane, vat, vixen) altered by the southwestern England habit of replacing initial f- with v- (and initial s- with z-)."

Would these words be distinguished in spelling?


r/anglish • • 17d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) Is there an Anglish word for "alcohol"?

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I did a quick search of the sub but didn't see an answer so hopefully I'm not repeating a question! I'm specifically thinking of a category that combines beer, wine, and liquors rather than individual names for types of drink


r/anglish • • 18d ago

Oðer (Other) Anglish Dare: Overset Your Most Beloved Film Game's Name

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Film game or Tape game = Video game

Can be one or many film games, or film game rows (series).

Here is my fand (attempt):

  1. Kingdom Come Deliverance = Kingdom Come + Aleesedness

  2. Resident Evil = Dweller / Husband (House-bound) + Evil / Bale

Other name is Biohazard = Lifeharm / Lifharm

  1. Baldur's Gate = Baldur's Gate (same, yippee!)

  2. Divinity Original Sin = Godness / Godhood + First / Form + Sin / Undeed / Misdeed

or Godness / Godhood Orsin

You fand twoth (next)!


r/anglish • • 18d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) -enly ag. -enlike

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-enly ag. (shortening for against) -enlike (or 'enly vs. -enlike' in English)

As far as I know about Anglish, there are two ways of tungwending (translating) the tailword (suffix) -able, namely -enly, and -enlike. My asking is, which one is more right? I reckon that it would be -enlike, for in some words, -enly could be mistaken as another word, forbizen (for example), mistakable and mistakenly would be tungwent (translated) the same into Anglish if wielding (using) -enly, but if wielding -enlike, it would be mistakenlike and mistakenly by themselves (respectively). Do you have another thought (opinion)? Sorry for my bad Anglish.


r/anglish • • 19d ago

🎨 I Made Þis (Original Content) Þe shieldwall holds þis time

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I wrought a little game on FifthDoor where you stand in þe shieldwall on Senlac hill, and every Frenchman coming up bears a borrowed word. You drive him back by picking þe right Anglish swap, so "mutton" could be sheepflesh, goatflesh or mouton, and only one of þose keeps þe wall whole. Fair warning, it is harder þan it looks, and þe whole þing hinges on keeping þe arrow out of Harold's eye þis time.

https://play.beta.fifthdoor.com/play/hastings-redo


r/anglish • • 19d ago

Oðer (Other) What is anglish for circumcision

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r/anglish • • 19d ago

✍️ I Ƿent Þis (Translated Text) Conan sur solipsism, de Reen del Neer Coast, per Robert E Howard / Conan on Dreamer Thuht, from Cƿeen of ðe Black Score bi Robert E Howard

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Lease professors et philosophers ponder questions de reality et illusion. I sape chis: sy vy stay un illusion, I stay equalment un illusion, et stayend ainsy, l'illusion stay real a moy. I vy, I flame od vy, I ame, I tew, ed I stay content.

Let teacers and þinkers brood ofer askings of treƿð and dreams. ic knoƿ þis: if life is a dream, þen ceam no less a dream, and being þus, þe dream is treƿ to me. Ic lif, ic burn med life, ic luf, ic slag, and ceam fulfilled.

\+


r/anglish • • 19d ago

🖐 Abute Anglisc (About Anglish) What would be the anglish for the latin "-ity" suffix?

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"-ity" meaning "the state or quality of being"

Also interested in the related suffixes such as "-ious"/"-ous" (having or possesing), "-tion", and the like


r/anglish • • 20d ago

😂 Funnies (Memes) Some of ye doth too much

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r/anglish • • 19d ago

🎨 I Made Þis (Original Content) Correct my draft, please.

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I wrote a poem and wanted to use it as my first Anglisc translation. I want constructive criticism about how the Anglisc can be improved, and where I may have gone wrong.

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Gnaw my bones until þe marrow may feed þee no more.

Drink my breað until þe stale air chokes þee.

Strip my bloodƿays and draw my blood until my flesh may ƿiðer.

Carve my fingertips until þe prints are no longer mine.

Cut me asunder to lighten þy toil.

Fourfold me to fit þy sundered heed.

From hƿens I came, þiðer shall I ƿend,

ƿiðout þought, voice, or ƿill—

A mere mark of shapeless naught;

Spirit lifted aloft.

Blow aƿay þe leavings,

But þe stain abides upon þe stone.

Anon I stand, stone-hardened,

Afterring made flesh—gone.