Hard boot heels riser ?

[u/MundisLacrima]

Hello,

I bought a hard boot set with Plum Sok bindings and Pekye low tech inserts for climbing. Issue is, soft boot heel risers don’t end at the heel, see picture. With the inserts’ position on the board, it is impossible to place them properly. Plum have some heel risers that seem dedicated to hard boots.

TLDR : Are dedicated hard boot heel risers required/usually bought as part of a setup? Do people just do without heel risers or with the misplaced soft boot risers?

I am mainly sceptical that I didn’t find discussions about that aspect, here or elsewhere on internet.

Thank you!

[u/rockshox11]

Can you rotate the riser 180° so it lifts backwards and not forwards?

[u/MundisLacrima → u/rockshox11]

Thought about that, but because of the location of the axles of the risers it seemed to me like I wouldn’t gain much if anything

[u/rockshox11 → u/MundisLacrima]

yea makes sense.

I use the spark risers and have had no issues with them. If you get them, I found the low riser to not be all that helpful so I just go with the high bar only.

[u/JSteigs]

If you do buy hard boot risers, check out the phantom risers, they have a slot on the underside you can pass a ski strap through for a low tech heel lock. I used it to skate out on a low angle road on a hit trip once, and it is a great feature.

[u/MundisLacrima → u/JSteigs]

Will do, one of the main down sides of low techs for me is the lack of heel lock! Sadly Phantom comes quite expensive in Europe with shipping :-/

[u/literal → u/MundisLacrima]

There's also the Grizzly heel risers, they have the same feature. They're based in Slovakia. Their website (https://grizzly.ski/) only sells them together with the tech toes though. Might want to email them to see if they'll sell the risers to you separately. Alpenglow sells them separately, but they're in the U.S.

[u/ramblerbasic → u/JSteigs]

Phantom is probably the best but if you can find them for cheaper other brands work just as well

[u/luptior]

both plum and phantom's hard boot heel risers have long screw slot for big range of placement adjustment. seems like you do need them over the one you have now

[u/ThatWasPontus]

Yes, dedicated heel risers are needed for hardboots as your BSL determine's where the heel rise needs to be placed in relation to the fixed pivot point of the toe piece.

Phantom, Plum and Voile all make dedicated hardboots heel risers. Spark makes an adapter plate that works with their older and Voile's regular soft boot binding heel risers.

[u/stufte]

Spark has adjustable plates. Maybe you could get just the plates?

[u/vasstind]

Yes, you will need dedicated risers for hardboots. The boots pivot point is farther forward with tech toes, making the boot heel pushed closer towards your back binding. You can buy a adapter plate from spark, and mount most softboot risers on it. If you go with no riser, you will still need something under your heel to offset the hight of the tech toe (you do not want your heels lower than the toes). Stick on a piece of plastic or hard rubber with some strong double sided tape, directly onto the topsheet, where the heel will hit it to make this work.

[u/dracheschreck]

I've use this exact setup without problems for 4 seasons now. I recommend you just try it out. The risers not touching on the heel as not been a problem for me. I don't feel any flex on the foot base / sole even when the riser is hitting on the middle of it as shown in this image.

[u/copper-miner]

Phantom heel risers are the best in the game. Having the bail attached to a solid piece of metal seems obvious but they’re the only ones who do it.

[u/DecidiousLarch]

Maybe it’s time for another sub: hardbootspliddit