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u/CerberusInExile May 26 '26
Well, I hope you went and made sure she was up. Because, obviously she set the alarm for herself and forgot, right?
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u/PixelRoku May 26 '26
I was just gonna say, her day just started at 5am, have fun 😅
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u/fireky2 May 26 '26
That is slightly early but still reasonable time for a teen to get up for school
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u/Impossible_Walk742 May 26 '26
yeah its entirely possible for a teenager to just have those alarms anyways. maybe the volume could have been increased for pettiness but the alarms themselves might be normal
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u/AtlasAngel02 May 26 '26
Whos setting an alarm for school for 5am? When i was in high school mine was like 7am, maybe 645. We left the house at like 725 to catch the train
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u/Firanka May 26 '26
How early did your classes start? I used to have 7AM classes...
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u/Baeowulf May 26 '26
I had class from 6 am to 6 pm every day of the week. On school days, id typically come home, do homework until midnight-2 am, then wake up at 4 am to get ready for school and get a little gaming in, since that was the only time I really reliably had to myself. This was fine for a couple years, then caused brain damage and permanent memory loss, so hard do not recommend.
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u/AtlasAngel02 May 26 '26
9am? Like every high school I know of?
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u/Smores-n-coffee May 26 '26
I have never seen a high school that started the day later than 7:45...granted, there are only 2 high schools in my area. But if you were poor like me and wanted free breakfast before classes, you had to be there around 7:10/7:15. I was up every morning by 6:00, and a half hour earlier if I wanted a shower.
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u/Firanka May 26 '26
Well, clearly you don't know of every school in existence. I knew no high school in my area that started later than 8.
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u/Sneaky_Island May 26 '26
That wasn’t normal for my local schools and I lived in both Ohio and Oregon when in high school. I’d be waking up before 7am. First two years, class started at 8am and bus pickup was something like 7:10am. Last two years I could drive and classes started at 8:20 so I could sleep in slightly longer.
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u/lilybug981 May 26 '26
My high school started at 7:20 but the buses arrived at the school at 7am. I was the first stop on the route, and I showered in the morning because teen stank, so I got up at 5:30. What really sucked is that the buses did the routes in reverse on the way home, so I was also the last stop to get off of the bus.
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u/historyhill May 26 '26
I had to leave the house at 6:45am and I liked morning showers at the time. 5 sounds about right for showering/drying/styling/make-up/etc.
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u/sugus14 May 26 '26
I used to wake up at 4 am every day since i was 8 to go to school bcs my school was on the other side of the city
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u/spr3admywings May 26 '26
I woke up at like 6am, sometimes 5:30am, for school at 7am (I think the gate closed at like 7:10? But I arrived early to get to my class since it was on the top floor), and that's considering I lived about 15min walking distance from it. Some parents also choose to enroll their kids to schools with better teaching but further away from home, so 5am might just be necessary.
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u/Larone13 May 26 '26
The water polo team at my high school would have 6am practices. So getting up at 5am was normal for them.
I also walked to school and had a 1 hour walk. So when I have 7:30am classes, id have to leave by 6:30am to get to class on time. So waking up between 5:30am and 6am was normal for me.
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u/spartaxwarrior May 26 '26
If I took the bus, it took about 45 minutes from my stop to get to school. The bus normally arrived at a time that gave us some leeway instead of running straight to the classroom, around 7am. There were stops before mine that might have even been before 6am. Totally feasible that people who had to do certain morning routines might get up at 5am.
That's not even getting into things like sports, as most of the girls sports especially and a few of the boys sports were before school, some of them not even located at the school itself.
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u/yullari27 May 26 '26
We got on the bus at 5:55, got to school at 7:05, and classes started at 7:25. I envy your late start during those years lol
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u/netherexchange May 28 '26
i was first bus stop in middle school so i had to be out by like 6-6:30. my first alarms were 5am to 5:30am because waking up that early was a pain in the ass.
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u/Spazattack43 May 26 '26
I used to go to sleep at 1 and wake up at 4 to do the homework i procrastinated doing the night before while i played video games. I was often grumpy at school cant imagine why
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u/Spinningwhirl79 May 27 '26
What the fuck does a child need that much time to do in the morning? Shower+teeth+dressed+breakfast does not take 3 hours
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u/mehonje May 27 '26
5AM is not a healthy time for anyone to wake up at.
Studies have shown that waking up before sunlight or before your body does naturally increases your risk of heart diseases and cancers.
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u/Pls_Dont_PM_Titties May 27 '26
Okay. My body wakes me up naturally at 5am in the summer.
Now what?
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u/jack-of-some May 26 '26
How many devices is that? How does a teen need more than one device with an alarm function?
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u/RedEyeView May 26 '26
Laptop, phone and a handheld gaming device?
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u/jack-of-some May 26 '26
Alarms are only typical on phones out of those.
I'm thinking maybe phone, tablet, and watch?
The reality is probably phone, 5 different tablets, watch.
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u/Happy_Lee_Chillin May 26 '26
All laptops have an alarm. But I can’t think of any handhelds that do
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u/jjbugman2468 May 26 '26
If you’ve ever been burned by phone alarms not going off…
Let’s just say nowadays if there’s something very important the next day I set no fewer than 7 alarms across at least 5 devices: my iPhone, my backup iPhone, my backup Android phone, my iPad, and my laptop.
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u/dathomar May 26 '26
Just... turn them off? I used to teach middle school, so I suppose this doesn't shock me. Honestly, the best thing to do is let them keep making noise as you gather them up and take them back to her room to bother her. Then you turn them off. Managing a teenager is all about taking the things they try to do to you and turning it back to make it their problem.
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u/wordytalks May 26 '26
Have you considered not taking away their devices? This doesn’t teach anything.
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u/CerberusInExile May 26 '26
Out of curiosity, why do you think this doesn't teach anything?
In my day it was no TV or Phone (landline) something used as a punishment for a minor rule breaking. I see this as similar. It sucked for a couple days which made me not want to repeat whatever I did to earn the punishment.
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u/AtalantiaX May 26 '26
Right lol my mom took my whole tv out of my room one time. I don’t remember what I did I just know I never did that mess again.
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u/FamousWash1857 May 26 '26
Because if the punishment is more memorable than the crime, then it's not negative reinforcement any more.
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u/CerberusInExile May 26 '26
Well, for me it was several decades ago so I don't recall anything more specific. I would assume that the memory of the specific offence and the situation leading up to it would be fresh in their mind.
But wouldn't it also lend to the idea that actions have consequences? I set this rule as the parent, you my child broke this rule, now there will be punishment. The child learns that if they break the rules there are consequences.
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u/Odd-Fig-709 May 26 '26
A punishment has to be uncomfortable not memorable, you just need to tie the misbehavor to a feeling worse than what they got from it.
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u/Spirally-Boi May 26 '26
I disagree, taking away their devices is an adequate form of punishment for misbehavior. Some sickos in this thread are suggesting to break the devices, which is downright abusive, but just taking them away for like a few days to a few weeks, depending on the severity of the mistake, is valid.
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u/RedEyeView May 26 '26
Banning kids from the thing they enjoy has always been an effective punishment.
You can misbehave or you go out and play with your friends and have your console/phone/hobby Pick one.
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u/historyhill May 26 '26
It's truly the best form of consequences I've come across for my kids. If you don't do the stuff you need to, you don't get to do the stuff you want to do, simple as.
ETA: and that's assuming it's being taken away for not doing a chore/homework and not for something like, say, cyber bullying or using devices in an unacceptable way!
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u/DiggityDog6 May 26 '26
Why not? “Don’t do this thing, or I’ll take away your phone for a week.” Doesn’t seem like an unreasonable punishment to me. Teaches them cause and effect and all that.
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u/Return_My_Salab May 26 '26
🥱 someone's had a soft life
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u/wordytalks May 26 '26
My parents beat me as a child. Go fuck yourself dude.
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u/MajorBootyhole420 May 26 '26
that doesn't mean the concept of parental discipline is inherently rotten. taking away devices is fairly reasonable, especially compared to how you grew up.
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u/dathomar May 26 '26
My sonb(he's in elementary school) loves to read. We'll tell him he needs to put his laundry away and he'll go in his room, take out a book, and read. So, we take his book away. It's not just a punishment. We're removing the distraction. He remembers that we'll take it if he allows it to get between him and following directions, and doesn't like it. He puts his laundry away first, in the future, and then gets to read, which isn't possible if we take his book away.
The wee bit of trouble may have been that the kid was playing on a phone when she was supposed to be going to bed. They took the phone and a tablet away to prevent them from being distractions.
My son would also throw tantrums. If told that he couldn't watch a movie in the afternoon, he might get very angry and yell at us. We told him that it sounded like he was turning into a movie monster, and that we might take a break from movies for a couple of weeks to help him turn back into a person.
In all cases, we identify his antisocial behavior to him, provide a consequence that is directly connected to the antisocial behavior, and provide him with an expected prosocial behavior. Removal of the consequences is a natural part of him demonstrating that prosocial behavior. That's how we turn punishment into improved behavior. It doesn't need to be arbitrary.
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u/Drefs_ May 26 '26
Wow, thank fuck none of the guys in this thread are my parents, I would run away from you the moment I turn 18
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u/MadeofGrass May 26 '26
First of all, you're a pathetic baby if you cut off your parents for dealing with retaliation bullshit. Accept that you don't have your phone/game console for a couple days and get over it, and nothing worse happens.
Second of all, at 18 it's called moving out not running away.
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u/Drefs_ May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
With the current housing market situation, at 30 it's still running away. No, I won't accept that I was punisged for something that I don't feel guilty for. If I do feel guilty, then there is no need for a punishment - I won't do whatever I did again. When I was a kid I would totally do something like that. Want to take away my entertainment and hobbies? I hope you like waking up at 5am on a sunday.
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u/MadeofGrass May 26 '26
Rather you feel guilty or not, you should never be punished? That's not how it works. Actions have consequences rather you regret your actions or not. Maybe a judge will explain it to you one day since your parents clearly failed.
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u/goaltender31 May 26 '26
Your parents really suck huh?
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u/Drefs_ May 26 '26
My parents are awesome, because instead of punishing me, they taught me why whatever I did was bad, so I would internalize it and not do it again. Punishing a kid in that way just makes them stop trusting their parents or find a way to keep doing whatever they were punished for without their parents knowing (my parents did punish me like that sometimes, but it never worked). I think it also might lead to the kid being an easy victim for bullying, since when they are bullied they won't question the authority of the bully, since they are used to being punished for things they don't feel guilty for.
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u/goaltender31 May 26 '26
This guy is either 14 or a man baby with parents that make Cartmans mom in "make love not warcraft" episode of South Park seem like a hardass
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u/Drefs_ May 26 '26
Sure man, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
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u/goaltender31 May 26 '26
How far does your logic go?
You drive drunk and kill someone, you wont do it again because you feel bad?
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u/MadeofGrass May 26 '26
Reddit is so full of man babies lmao Raised with a tablet in hand and never told no
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u/possible_name May 30 '26
great way to never see your kids once the moment they turn 18
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u/No_Potato_7211 May 30 '26
Mine have enough trouble with water and electronics without my help. They have shorted out 3 tablets and a steam deck taking them i to the bathroom during showers.
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u/Bingabonga-the-Aztec May 28 '26
I used to take the SIM out of my phone and put it in one of the old phones in the junk drawer whenever mine got taken away. Good times.
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u/possible_name May 30 '26
"play stupid games, win stupid prizes" is way more when the people who win stupid prizes are the ones in power
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u/EaseLeft6266 May 26 '26
That's when you wake them up at the same time on a Saturday or Sunday morning with an air horn or megaphone when they were hoping to sleep in
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u/RedRisingNerd May 26 '26
Why are they taking away all her devices for being in “a wee bit of trouble”? Definitely overkill if it is over just a little trouble and definitely deserved. She’s probably pissed that her parents overly punish her.
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u/Psychologicalwalnut May 26 '26
And at that point the phone goes away forever 😂 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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u/kyreannightblood May 26 '26
We don’t have enough information to say she’s not a deep sleeper and those are her actual alarms. In high school my morning alarm was 5am because I needed to eat, finish my bonkers homework load, and be at school by 7:00 or earlier.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits May 26 '26
Then the teen buys those tiny battery powered devices that chirp absurdly loud at random intervals (no pattern of hours, days, weeks) and hides them around the house (in vents, light coverings, attic, crawl spacet, etc.)
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u/chi_sweetness25 May 26 '26
Then the teen gets kicked out and ends up living in a VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!
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u/Psychologicalwalnut May 26 '26
Oh don't worry I was a horrible horrible teenager. I will out last any and all shittery. I have 2 daughters & I'm more than ready 🙂↕️
They gonna learn they lose.
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u/cold_enforcing-man May 26 '26
Perhaps try not destroying your own possessions to prove a point to children, seems somewhat pathetic to me.
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u/Old_Introduction7236 May 26 '26
...and then they all went in the trash, never to disturb our slumber again.
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u/TheSuperSegway May 26 '26
Sounds like said teen gets to spend the next month doing hard labor and having no devices until proven to have understood the purpose of the original punishment. My favorite hard labor to use would be either shoveling horse shit or Cleaning dishes in mass. Both require the willpower to buckle down and do the work. There will always be more shit to shovel and there are plenty of restaurants/kitchens that needs things cleaned. There are useful skills in both while also not being too easy to make simple.
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u/Repulsive_Mixture917 May 26 '26
Sounds like you’re a boomer or a troll. Little difference these days.
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u/Pale_Aspect7696 May 26 '26
Turn each one off with a hammer.
Apples and trees, you know.
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u/porn_alt_987654321 May 26 '26
Never procreate.
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