So I was looking into various builds and wanted to do some basic testing, although a bit naivly:

Tests were done on base-dummies in practice tool. I was level 9 for all tests. The combo is "AA - Q - AA - Q - AA - Q" only (to determine the basic trading damage) and I did not space any AA's (Which in theory means that any Spellblade items can have a higher output)

I chose the items a bit randomly. Anyways these were my results:

Kraken is by far the strongest first item in terms of DPS, though it obviously provides no HP, so you end up squishier. That seems like a fair trade-off. Kraken with DnD was surprisingly low on damage, although Kraken with Trinity did much better, so the attack timing may be part of the explanation there.

Hullbreaker outdamages Trinity Force in this test, but I’d expect that gap to close, or even flip, with a more patient attack rhythm.

DnD honestly feels like a bit of a trap to me. It doubles the on-hit effects, but early to mid game we don’t have enough stats for the double proc to outdamage other items. I didn’t test full builds, but it could probably be a decent fourth or fifth item.

Finally, Hullbreaker plus Kraken is an insane two-item spike, which is matched only by Trinity plus Kraken.

What intrigues me is Kraken Hullbreaker Trinity. It's very greedy I guess and would delay DD but maybe the extra damage is worth it?

HI SHYVANA MAINS SUBREDDIT!!!

I was wondering if -depending on how major the buff will be- overlord could become an actual good staple item on Shyvana.

Of course right now overlord's is overshadowed by other items due to it mainly not having ability haste and having no real place to slot in instead of anything else, but it's passive is honestly one that synergises with Shyvana really well considering the max health you gain on ult, so if the item gets a sizeable buff to either it's stats or the health->AD ratio, could it become a flex or even a staple item on Shyvana?

I exclusively play triforce>shojin pta shyv. I recentky started buying dark seal after I get all of my triforce longswords and I sometimes upgrade it to mejais when I think I can get more stacks. I started doing this after noticing that every ability has an AP ratio. Is dark seal/mejaibon ad bruiser shyv legit or am I cooking too hard?

Is it optimal to sell boots on shyvana and go for an item in end game? Normal build with triforce, shojin

Hi, I'm a Shyvana two-trick (played Morde top a lot before, now mostly jungle Shyv). I have 154 games on her with a 56% win rate (only noting that to show I know the champion well). I've always been building Kraken Slayer/DnD/Hexplate in that order, but recently I've done some testing with Hullbreaker instead of DnD. And now I don't understand why literally nobody uses this item.

Hullbreaker gives 500 HP, while DnD gives 300. It gives 4% move speed, which is huge for Shyvana especially combined with Kraken Slayer move speed buff. And it gives a direct AD buff, 40 damage, while also helping with pushing and empowering minions. It also has an on-hit effect, which is very good. And it costs 100 gold less

In contrast, DnD offers 20 ability haste, 20% attack speed and 60 AP and faster on-hit fury gain. It might seem huge, but it's really not, and the AD and on-hit effect from Hullbreaker more than compensate for it except fury gain. I've done testing with Kraken Slayer and DnD/Hullbreaker at level 11, and the DPS from Hull is just slightly better (plateau 660 vs. 650 using only Q and auto-attacks).

I should note that without haste rune stacks, the skill cooldowns are:

Q: 6 seconds with Hullbreaker, 5 with DnD.

W: 10 seconds with Hullbreaker, 8.33 with DnD.

E: 8 seconds with Hullbreaker, 6.67 with DnD.

I can see that you may have a point about W CD being important, but with Hullbreaker, you also have 200 more HP, which helps you survive longer, buffs to your shield because it scales with HP, and buffs to Dragon Form's missing-health shield restoration since you have more HP. Besides, with haste rune difference in CDs becomes even less.

What are your thoughts?

Less money, more health, more ult impact. I'm low elo, but it seems like Hexplate is a better first buy

Edit: I play her jng btw

I watched from Drututt and it was looking good also tried myself it felt very satisfying having high attack speed after ulting

The Dragon fireball trail damage was so insignificant that I genuinely thought there was no visual effect on enemy champs burning.

But after so many months of just trying stuff out in the practice tool, I noticed there is a debuff icon thats quite funny but more importantly, a visual and sound effect of enemies burning, which is cool. And it should be more prominent and important and more significant and more noticeable!!

I feel that it could also be added to Human Form E. Nerf the explosion damage for it, but it would serve the fantasy of the champ. and the meaning of "FIRE" ball. that BURNS!

AND RIOT... What the hell are those tick numbers? EIGHT? 8???? I'm full AP build there btw..

The champ has this written in her description

Shyvana is a creature with the magic of a rune shard burning within her heart

, incinerating her foes with fiery breath.

Her lore is that she is a FIRE dragon.

They delivered very well on the superhuman dragon lady, clawing at everyone and everything that stands in her way while being tanky and prone to taking damage.

But the fire dragon is still very much lackluster.

And not to mention that a more meaningful burn, maybe one that lasts 1 sec longer than the current 2 secs.
Also makes AP systems suit her better; think Deathfire Touch rune, Liandry's Torment item.

More burn damage, less explosion damage.
Maybe something like AP scaling on the E slow so enemies get stuck on the fire beneath them, taking more damage.
Maybe an E CD reduction when hitting enemies with W to promote a bruiser playstyle and item builds.

Maybe next year they will remember Shyvana should be a dragon that burns people; who knows...

Hello fellow Shyvana mains! I am starting to get back into league after not playing for a while and i had no idea shyv got reworked! i’m curious on how to build her, i see people saying trinity->shojin->DD/stereks, but whenever i look at what one tricks are doing in seeing a lot of hexplate. is hexplate some high elo tech or is it better than trinity in certain matchups? any build advice would be appreciated, i buy the same 4 core items every game and i want to improve my itemizing.

Is there like some slomo video somewhere that breaks down how to autocancel?

I’ve noticed that I mostly just q right after the auto and it feels ok. But then randomly I will hit q at this weird moment that happens like a millisecond after the auto. And they almost happen in unison. Same with E. Is that autocanceling?

Because 99% of the time I will hit q like right after the auto but there is always a delay in her animation and so the Q just seems like smack in the middle in between autos

Hey guys, SundayDelight here. I've taken up streaming Shyvana top since I got to Master otping her.

I'll be uploading clips and VODs here and there !

Been playing a lot of shyvana lately. She’s pretty fun

Yesterday I had a game slip between my fingers for multiple reasons. One of them being a K'Sante who went full armor items into our comp, which did make complete sense.

What do I build on Shyvana to kill such a creature?

I started playing Shyvana once I was hard stuck gold and got to P4 with a 54% win rate!

Any tips to climb higher would be appreciated

Given that her Q passive does %max health dmg and that her autos refund her Q CD, isn't alacrity more effective than legend haste?

I wouldn't call myself a shyvana player, I'm just now picking her up, but her build variety really appeals to me a lot; theorycrafting has always been a huge passion of mine in pretty much every game in which builds exist.

After reading a bit about her abilities, the fact her rage build-up is increased 1 to 1 relative to Ultimate Haste, and having very often heard how her human form is her weakest aspect, made me really want to know how Experimental Hexplate performs, and where it'd fit best in a build as to not miss out on too much early game power whilst still playing around it when it matters most: early~mid-game.

At first I considered building it as a first item, since it still gives plenty of attackspeed and ad, and the health would help smooth out her early-game somewhat, but that would probably slow down her tempo by a lot compared to Trinity Force or Kraken Slayer.

Now, I'm considering Shojin as a first item, into Hexplate second, and possibly Riftmaker third for stacking the % damage increases.

What do you think? First or second? Maybe I should run Trinity first, into Hexplate instead? Or would the stacking bonuses be worth more?

(I do not expect this to be the meta for Shyvana. If it were to be, it probably would be that already. This just sounds at least viable, and interesting to try out.)

Also, off-topic, but when is Shyvana not a good pick? Played against Teemo, TF, Nilah and Pantheon earlier and I felt really powerless to ever engage or even counter-engage when they could just stun me or take away like all my damage with blind and Nilah W.

Hi non main here,

I swear right after the rework the max order was Q>E>W, I tried reading thru the patch notes and didn't really understand which specific change caused her to max W 2nd. Was it the loss of the bonus AD ratio?