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[u/silversurfermax]

[u/WisePotato42]

This meme seems a bit outdated. All the debugging has been outsourced to AI.

[u/Hellothere_1 → u/WisePotato42]

Debugging is honestly one of the things AI is incredibly good at. At work I've had issues of tasks that would usually cause hours of extensive debugging fixed in minutes after just telling an AI agent "find out why this bug is happening".

The biggest issue with AI is also not that it writes buggy code, but rather that it's bad at system engineering, so unless you keep a lid on it your codebase will slowly become fractured and disjointed and become harder to develop for.

Of course the same thing can also happen when a human is bad at system engineering or your manager isn't able to get people on the team to communicate properly, so that issue is hardly unique to AI, AI just lowers the barrier of entry for bad developers to wreak havoc on a code base.

[u/polacs]

The worst part about AI is that a lot of people in this subreddit now has 0 clue about programming

[u/shred-i-knight]

everyone here is simply larping as a dev if they think this is true. Debugging with AI is nearly painless compared to how it was before, and that is for significantly more code/product to debug at once as well.

[u/SaltMaker23]

Nah it isn't. I'm all in for AI and vibe bashing but this is simply false.

What AI builds in couple of minutes (although not 2) would have taken weeks if not months to build.

It's harder to debug a significantly bigger product than it is to debug 2 hours of manual work that barely addressed a feature.

The last 10% of the work represent 90% of the time, obviously AI gets everyone a lot closer to being production ready, where the actual challenges become quite clear and it becomes increasingly harder to prompt away the problems and inconsistencies.

[u/Retsyn]

I think it handles the debugging vastly better than the writing. It's the writing I have huge reservations about.

[u/randytayler]

Debugging is insanely easy now. Fear for my job easy.

[u/Vyrnin]

I find that AI is good at purely technical things, and bugs are a good example of that. They are usually simple mistakes in syntax, errors in logic, etc. Finding a bug is like editing a paper, you're just looking for the mistake.

When it comes to creative design, game feel, system architecture and art direction, that's where the human element is indispensable. These things are the real heart of the experience you're giving to the player. It takes emotion, intention, artistry and humanity to bring a really excellent story or experience to life, and to affect other humans in a meaningful way.

[u/Beldarak]

This sub really lives in another reality than mine or your code is really unique and weird.

"Claude, do this"

Claude did it. Oh, there's a bug.

"Claude, there is an issue, when I do X and expect Y, Z happens instead. And I get this in console [pasted stuff]"

Repeat a few times if necessary.

Done. As usual, I get why people may be against AI, I don't like it either for all the ethical reasons. Claming it doesn't work though is lunacy. You're all programers but can't prompt an LLM correctly?

[u/ccmaru1]

Are everyone here larping being a developer? 😭
AI literally sucked the soul and fun of something I value deeply but it’s better than almost every dev out there. A task list that would take me 1-2 days normally was done in 20 minutes while in a meeting with a project manager. I hate it but it’s sadly very… very good. At least Opus is.

[u/maladaptiveman]

I think the reason you can't debug it in 24 hours with AI is you don't understand what you’re doing at all

[u/falcon0041]

Running on low credits and fast timelines is a struggle

[u/Senor-Delicious]

At this point I am convinced that people in this sub making these posts have zero experience with AI assisted development.

I've never debugged and analyzed anything as fast as with AI. Like not even close. Takes me minutes where I potentially required days before.

[u/PashaPostaaja]

AI has made also debugging lot easier.

Are you actually using the AI or just pulling this from ares?

[u/Bannon9k]

This comic was made by a shitty developer. 6 hours debugging code you spent 2 hours writing?

[u/eW4GJMqscYtbBkw9]

2 hours coding (before AI)??? I've spent 2 days on one small bug that AI could have fixed in 90 seconds.

This meme is so stupid, I'm not convinced that the creator has actually ever coded before.

[u/eoThica]

Before cars:
Walking: 6 hours
Car repairs: 0

After cars
Driving: 2 hours
Walking: 6 hours
Car repairs: 29

[u/Gosh-Tier]

r/memesfrom2024

[u/AwarenessForsaken568]

Debugging isn't the issue/time sink. Reviewing the code is.

[u/IllustriousGerbil]

This was true around the middle of last year.

Its absolutely not true now, AI written code is generally less buggy when you first run it than human written code.

[u/Jallalo23]

Almost like Test Driven Development prevents this🙂

[u/MilleryCosima]

The "24 hours debugging" thing has only been true for projects where I am completely out of my depth and should have done it by hand to learn the ropes anyway, like when I casually tried a data science project without know how to do data science.

[u/BaconIsntThatGood]

Replace AI with "I took 2 minutes to ask an intern to do it"

[u/AbilityCharacter7634]

I’m just an amateur coder, but even me can say reality is very different than this meme depicts.

Oh sure someone who never coded anything by themselves will have an absolute hell of a time debugging any somewhat complex project done by AI.

But if you know enough about coding, then you have enough intuition to know where something went wrong if you did enough effort to manage how the ai structured your code.

Plus just by the explosion in quantity of new mods and games that are halfway decent, AI does seem to increase productivity in some ways at least.

[u/mediafeener]

You guys are debugging your code?