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u/Terran57 Sep 17 '26
Ditto. Violence is the last resort but it’s all some people understand.
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u/Ryumancer Sep 18 '26
Violence isn't the answer, it's the question. And the answer will EVENTUALLY be yes in many cases. lol
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u/ArgonianMagician Sep 18 '26
Yeah, some people only learn the hard way. It's unfortunate but that's how humans are.
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u/TomlinSteelers Sep 17 '26
I mean that seems reasonable by James Bond
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u/DragonDanzZ Sep 17 '26
ohh yes the bully in my school had to go after me allllll the time.. in the end he got his own medecin.. and what did he do?? straight ahead to his other friends to "HELP" him get revenge.
The Bully is allways the weakest.. they cant stand up for themself and need backup.
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u/EitherChannel4874 Sep 17 '26
As it should be. Schools do absolutely nothing. Then when the bullied kid stands up for themselves they get in trouble.
My niece has been taught from day one that you tell an adult first. If nothing happens then you hit the kid back twice as hard next time.
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u/hat1414 Sep 18 '26
The problem is the public little no idea what teachers deal with. Today I had a ten year old (typical kid, not on the spectrum or PLP) ask me if I remember "shutters". I didn't know wtf he was talking about and neither did his friend. He then said "maybe that wasn't his name. He was in Grade 5 last year. I wonder where he is now." I told him "hes probably in middle school, right?" "Oh yeah..." Was the response. This type of s*** happens way too often.
My point is you can't usually trust a child's perception of "Bullying". I'm sure in their Mind they are being bullied. But their minds are often very confused.
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u/EitherChannel4874 Sep 18 '26
The same thing happened to my little brother most of the way through secondary school. He reported it and we reported it. Nothing was done.
Then when he finally snapped, my mum got a call that he was in trouble and being suspended.
I saw the same when I was in school 20 years before that.
It's just lame. Schools need to do better.
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u/hat1414 Sep 18 '26
I'm sorry, what I wrote was that kids have very limited and often illogical perceptions of things, especially conflict. What a kid sees as "bullying" is often not really bullying. Not always, but often. And teacher have to navigate kids having weird perceptions and parent believing their kids
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u/Fun_in_Space Sep 18 '26
Bullies pulled my hair, stabbed me with sharp pencils, and knocked books out of my hands every day. The big kid lifted me up and another kid lifted my dress. Does that count?
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u/hat1414 Sep 18 '26
Yes for everyone one experience like yours, teachers are dealing with 10+ at worst confused or at best highly nuanced situations. I'm sorry you went through that, but don't let that make you assume teachers are just useless
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u/benjm88 Sep 18 '26
That's just what you perceive/s
Don't make the lazy teacher above do something about it
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u/benjm88 Sep 18 '26
The example you give has absolutely nothing to do with bullying or perception
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u/Economy-Motor-3478 Sep 17 '26
And fk jesus and christians that say to turn the other cheek and forgive and love your enemy.
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u/CrownandSceptres Sep 17 '26
Oh sure it’s good advice when Daniel Craig says it but when I say it I’m counselling violence and two wrongs don’t make a right or some crap like that. /s
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u/SimilarYard9840 Sep 18 '26
I’m teaching my son to never start a fight, but if someone starts one with you, you finish it.
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u/badgerpunk Sep 17 '26
That's exactly how you get a bully to stop. Speaking from childhood experience.
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u/Spare-Ad538 Sep 17 '26
I actually instructed my kid that if she gets hit in school, don’t hit back, just defend, because I’ll sue the kid and his parents so hard that the parents will cry and then beat that kid themselves. (20 year paralegal)
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u/Big_Importance_5226 Sep 18 '26
Do people, I'm talking about professed Christians, really believe that Turn the Other Cheek nonsense?
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u/DJWGibson Sep 18 '26
As someone who works with small kids “but they hit me first!” is a terrible excuse I hear far, far too often.
And punching the kid teasing you just means you get suspended while the bully who egged you on walks away as the “victim.”
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u/No_Freedom_8673 Sep 18 '26
Most parents I know will fight the school and just reward the kid suspended. Not really stopping families who hold to this view.
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u/Fun_in_Space Sep 18 '26
Why would it be a terrible excuse?
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u/DJWGibson Sep 18 '26
.... because two wrongs don't make a right?
That feels like a trick question.
Imagine trying to use that against a police officer. "But they cut me off first!"
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u/IllBrilliant3816 Sep 18 '26
I do contend. Before that step get the teachers involved. When their involvement fails, then proceeding to [Reddit censored act] is not only the bullys fault, but the teachers.
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u/richie65 Sep 18 '26
The only effective response towards anyone who aspires to subjugate another - IS violence.
Because THAT is the only language such a person understands immediately.
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u/TheYellowFringe Sep 18 '26
It's not nice nor honourable.
But what other choice is there when the other child won't listen to reason or requests to stop?
There is no other choice but to be more assertive.
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u/T_J_Rain Sep 18 '26
We are all entitled to defend ourselves against a credible threat.
Learn both diplomacy and self-defence.
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u/Capital-City4918 Sep 18 '26
Fafo or play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Lots of people today think and act like they are invincible and can do whatever they want no matter how wrong it since they are like "so what, there are no consequences for me".
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u/Extra_Park1392 Sep 18 '26
This is like the third different celebrity that’s being attributed this quote. Dead internet
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u/Cool1809 Sep 18 '26
I agree. You day stop once, they don’t listen. Ok, just say it again. They get punched my kid is floored. Not yet. Hold back. You say stop and they punch you AGAIN. Alright, punch them back
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u/blissdiss Sep 18 '26
Yeah, this just teaches the kid to hit first. Counter intuitive, when you're creating more bullies.
Plus, it doesn't solve anything. The bully is always going to be a bully cos their parents are shite. Why don't you go and punch the parents of the bully? Same thing. Not the kids fault they're like this.
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u/Funkkx Sep 21 '26
This. Put my son in KravMaga classes from 8y on.. got attacked by a bully in 7th class when he was already on the ground. Performed a nice Ground Defense Kick to the attackers face and stopped him. Guess who got in trouble? Did I have my sons back? Hell yeah.
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u/truci Sep 17 '26
Not exactly how the US school system works. While I get the idea and sentiment behind the statement. And in theory I even support it.
But in practice this will cause your kid to have a hard life. If your kid ends up expelled from multiple schools and in juvenile hall because he punches kids that are mean to him.
Take this with a grain of salt patents.
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u/FranVG1207 Sep 17 '26
Why would you think that he gets bullied in every school that he goes to?
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u/truci Sep 17 '26
Bullies exist in all schools. But verbal bullying is a lot more common and schools suck at protecting kids who are being bullied verbally. If a child or even an adult decides punching people in the face in response w to verbal bullying then he will end up in jail. Thats just how our society works.
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u/notyouraverageskippy Sep 17 '26
Or you just ignore it and they get older and shoot up up their school killing 12 students and 1 teacher.
Is Columbine that old people forget both of the shooters were bullied?
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u/betsylang Sep 17 '26
THEY. WERE. THE. BULLIES!
No seriously. Those boys- and I dont remember their names bc fuck those kids- were popular students.
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u/Important_Swim_2009 Sep 18 '26
Bro these ppl Litt think they’d be hitting ppl who say things to them lmao, you’re getting downvoted bc they live in la la land and think they’d school system would just allow it
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u/truci Sep 18 '26
I know and it’s sad because there is a good chance they will end up raising the bully’s we are talking about.
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u/Jak1977 Sep 18 '26
This assumes the other kid is the problem. But if your kid is pressing other kids' buttons until they explode so they can use the excuse of self-defense to beat someone up, then you are the problem. If your kid is reacting to my kid bullying them, but they won't stop, then my kid has been instructed to punch your kid in the face.
Some kids are dickheads. So are some parents. Weirdly, these two tend to go together.
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u/structuremonkey Sep 18 '26
As a child I was taught to never start a physical fight, and i never did. I was also taught by the same person though, that if im attacked to fight like hell. And if I was beaten, the other kid(s) better have left bloodied, or I'd get beaten worse when I got home.
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Sep 18 '26
I literally told my daughters to kick boys in the balls if they lay their hands on them. And if they are old enough I can help
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u/Batmanswrath Sep 17 '26