Does Hanabi need a nerf?

[u/Aggravating_Bat_8091]

Even though she has been called “Dark System Ninja” recently, she’s performing a little too well.

Literally has the highest pick rate by a huge margin with the 7th highest win rate.

Marksmen are shining this season but I’m surprised to see this ninja gaining the most popularity.

[u/realred65]

I posted about this a while ago and people called me crazy. I think she’s just had such a bad rep for so long no one wants to acknowledge she’s op.

Late game she can defend base forever

With enough peel + rose gold, and her passive she’s almost impossible to CC or burst down.

Also Vengeance does little to nothing to her after it was nerfed.

I’ve lost so many games where a horrible hanabi player gets enough gold and is basically untouchable and can’t out DPS her

[u/Hyakkimaru_4 → u/realred65]

cause this subreddit are moslty tard

"There's no bad hero there's only bad player" isn't valid here.

[u/Tekahere → u/Hyakkimaru_4]

Those who says that are the player type: Name: [Chrisgamerr]

• Play only meta heroes

• Never leaves the bush

• Complains that the Roamer does roamer things instead of living on his line

• Spam Recall after killing his enemy with 4 teammates

[u/Nishizumi_ → u/Hyakkimaru_4]

True that. It's more like, even if the player is bad; so long as their hero is good, they will always have a chance at winning. This is why heroes like Hanabi, so long as they can get fed towards the end of the game will win regardless of whether they fall behind during their early game. It's genuinely so bullshit. 🥀 💔 😔

[u/idkanyusernameshelp → u/realred65]

Bring back pre nerf vengeance that shit was such a blessing as a tank player

[u/-morpy → u/realred65]

3 months ago people were saying Hanabi was a bad ADC despite her:

1. Having above average range for an ADC so this means she just outranges a good amount of the roster.

2. Her AA bounces, which means she's gonna be monstrous in team fights once she gets her items.

3. Her ult is useful to lock someone down and bring chaos to teamfights.

4. She has a lot of safetiness in lane thanks to her CC immunity when she has a shield, not to mention she can just run Aegis and nullify any gank towards her. And with the CC immunity, she has her ult to lock someone down under tower and make sure that at the very least, she trades her death for a kill.

5. Her bounces, shields, and cc immunity also mean she can comfortably just eat waves, fuck off somewhere else to farm some more and scale relatively quickly. This also makes laning against her a nightmare for other mms because they'll get poked down by her bounces, and if they try to freeze and zone her out then good luck dealing with the rescue team coming in (also even if you do get ahead in the match up, she becomes far more useful and later on, deadlier in teamfights).

[u/ExpensiveTeaching507]

As an Arlott main, I hate facing her if she has an Angela, has Aegis AND Rose Gold. My whole kit is useless because of her practically unlimited CC immunity - can’t pick her off using ult and can’t even apply a single mark

[u/Rude_Invite7260]

As a roamer and exp main, I usually ban her. She completely cripples tanks and fighters who can't close the gap, and CC literally doesn't work if the Hanabi unless you time it well, which invalidates setters. Combo that with Angela and I genuinely have no fun playing the game at all. Banning her maintains my sanity and also prevents dark system hanabis on my own team.

So, I think she should be a little nerfed. Long term CC immunity is a fundamentally broken concept no matter who it's on.

Personally, I would change the CC immune to a purify effect every time she receives a shield. That way, Hanabi players at least must time her shield uses to get as much CC immune as possible.

[u/Toge_Inumaki012]

I swear this is too funny.

People call Hanabi dark system hero because of the braindead players that uses her and the hero itself.

Now that she performs well some people want a nerf.....is that so people can continue to shit on it etc? Lmao

I remember people have always been shitting on Hanabi but then idk some have started crying about how her bounce projectile hits enemeis even when hiding in the bush, then that mechanic got removed eventually 🤣. It's so funny.

[u/Cullyism → u/Toge_Inumaki012]

Yeah, the joke about shitting on Hanabi has been run to the ground ages ago. It's not recent.

People on this subreddit blindly jump on the bandwagon and only share clips of poor Hanabi users instead of good ones. Hanabi was always a decent pick depending on the team comp. She was never fully “bad” for a long time.

[u/PudgeJoe]

I don't think so instead just buff other weaker barely use heroes

[u/WelpfulJoseCardenas]

As me who plays Hanabi half of the time, I honestly find her to be pretty balanced. She barely even has mobility, and her range is not even that far too, and you honestly can still counter her by being quick when you try to get near her.

[u/Sea_Oven_6936]

Honestly? No. She just really good vs today meta heroes once the meta shifts she’s gonna be back to her dark system days

[u/cabronfavarito]

The popularity curse. Who will be cursed next

[u/ermrx]

Her passive was already nerfed what do u want more? the only good thing about her is her passive.

[u/lanx07]

No need to nerf hanabi in the hands of a good player and knows how to play hanabi hanabi is strong but mostly not all l, hanabi user doesn't know how to use her properly so no need to nerf her you just need to pray that if you have a team who will use her knows her properly or if the enemy uses it oray that they are oart of the dark system

[u/HNHR5]

Honestly I dont have much trouble playing against her since I love running grock into her, the wall is strong since she has no mobility and you can always time your ult.

[u/Zhixco]

As an solo exp main, I try to ask as much as possible to swap positions during draft until i see what mm they gonna use and pick esme against her.

[u/are_you_kIddIngme]

No

[u/geneticdisaster888]

I think she's kinda nerfed and slightly more balanced after her 1st skill mana nerf. Yea she's just a good solo que hero , she cant do much at competitive level , I mean teams have tried and failed.

[u/FunIsWinning]

Go pick Esme Gold against her, you'll be tower diving her everytime his ult is off cooldown.

[u/3jaya]

She is not the type of marksman who can follow up his teammate initiate right? She doesn't have any dash. So she basically the type of marksman who counter initiate someone who dive her

[u/Templar_Omega]

Just use Belerick + blade armor + vengeance and this FRAUD ninja is done for

[u/Lan_Run → u/Templar_Omega]

Na, hanabi can legit beat him now

[u/sBhat213 → u/Templar_Omega]

Nah she is juiced up on fighter emblem + rose gold + aegis and whatever funny way dhs works right now.

She legit gets that wood working.