r/MobileLegendsGame • u/Tigreal Moderator • Oct 24 '25
Patch Notes Patch Notes 2.1.18 - Additional Balance Adjustments - Org. Server
Hero Adjustments
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The following uses
(↑) (↓) (~) >>to indicate Buff, Nerf, Adjustment and Changes.
- [Thamuz]
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Thamuz currently takes too long to scale, making him unable to fulfill the Fighter/Tank role unti he has three or more equipment items. To address this, we've increased his early game survivability.
[Ultimate] (↑)
Extra Max HP: 600 >> 1000-1200
Extra Max HP Bonus: 30%-50% Extra Max HP >> 50% Extra Max HP
- [Layla]
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As a late-game Marksman, Layla's farming speed was greatly affected by the decrease in Gold from Minions. Therefore, we've slightly increased her damage in the mid to late game.
[Attribute] (↑)
Physical Attack Growth: 8.5 >> 10
- [Bane]
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We've noticed that Bane's fully charged Skill venom deals excessive damage in Magic builds and is difficult to counter. To address this, we've reduced its Magic Power Bonus when fully charged.
[Skill 2] (↓)
Magic Power Bonus When Fully Charged: 250% >> 200%
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u/Former_Depth_7041 Oct 29 '25
Does anyone know how to retrieve back my account id. It was a smurf account and hopefully can retrieve it. As it is not connected to any email or account before this
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u/Repulsive-Bee6590 Oct 25 '25
Whoever in moontoon thought of this is stupid. Layla and Thamus will be always banned. No one will see these new skins
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u/Content-Bus2167 Oct 25 '25
Please, keep in mind that they said on the official Discord server that a overbuffed/buffed hero(es) before the selling of their skin was "mere coincidence", specially the incoming nerf after the selling is off.
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u/luihgi Oct 24 '25
they're not even hiding that they buff heroes when their skin is coming anymore lmfao
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u/Dry_Syrup_7130 Oct 24 '25
I’m surprised Alice dodged the bullet here.
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u/merlin__hermes Oct 25 '25
Alice good right now..?
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u/ElegantStrawberry201 Oct 25 '25
Yep
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u/jinda002 Oct 25 '25
whats her lane now?
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u/crispyLechon_qwq Oct 25 '25
exp lane, played as a setter & tank. she's good when you have teammates to follow up on your sets during team fights. also a really good zoner during objective clashes due to her ultimate.
idk about mid lane since her dmg is ass, but her sustain is one of the best
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u/am_n00ne Oct 24 '25
Am I the only one who never had a problem against bane? It's easy to bait him to miss the spit, the only annoying part is his big heal that can put off timing, but it's not as annoying as against cici/phoveus
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u/DJWIPE69 Oct 24 '25
Im assuming because you played vs bane in xp? Bane is a gold laner (or was, idk how the nerf affected the meta)
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u/Agrolimesentisilifen Oct 24 '25
he's strongest in the gold lane but is viable in almost every lane, though again his best role is in gold right now
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u/allstarrevenant Oct 24 '25
Lmao obvious moneyton playbook. Buff thamuz and Layla to sell skin. Nerf to the ground after
How many suckers this time
They're still laughing at the losers who bought the Sasuke and Naruto skins
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u/rj_nighthawk Oct 24 '25
Learned my lesson from M-World Wanwan skin, tho I was also against reducing her targets from 4 to 3 because that kind of "buff" only led to a year of harsh nerfs.
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u/Tall_Oil3648 Oct 24 '25
Problem with Wanwan Fanny and the likes is that they are balancing nightmares. They're cool game designs but bad game designs at the same time.
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u/rj_nighthawk Oct 24 '25
Nah, Wanwan was okay back when she needed to hit 4 targets. Barely anyone was using her and you really had to work for your ult.
Even now, she's more vulnerable to early game ganking and she needs three attack speed items (without boots) to have decent mobility, which takes time and is more risky. But that 3 target adjustment started the whole issue with her. They nerf her a bit and she's barely usable. They give back some of her offensive stats and players start to complain even when all they had to do was gank her and make her useless in the match.
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u/Tall_Oil3648 Oct 25 '25
She was seeing action in pro play prior to the 3 weakness adjustment, so what the buff did was make her usable for almost everyone, but good Wanwan players were fine even without the adjustment, you are right about barely anyone using her though, she was more difficult to pull off than other heroes while producing the same or worse results.
The arguably bigger factor for why she became meta is the shift in the meta, a huge surge in heroes with low mobility and/or will struggle to deal with her happened with the tank jungle meta, or nerfs to other meta gold laners like recently where she catapulted to be a top gold laner. Corrosion Scythe adjustment in M4 made basically all attack speed heroes very strong.
A majority of gold laner mms are vulnerable to early ganks too, most of them are weaker early game and have even less mobility than Wanwan, and they don't even have a fighting chance under tower. Swift Crossbow + Inspire + Ult can generally take out a mage or marksman early game. You need 3 items for crazy mobility, with CS and Windtalker/DHS you already are more mobile than most other mms. At level 8/9 with 2 items you have 200% aspd or more.
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 24 '25
Buffs to Layla, Lesley and Hanabi are always welcome because newbies use them the most and end up feeding.
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u/ludipimpek Oct 24 '25
Yea, but if you survive with layla trough the late game its gg
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 24 '25
Not really since even in late game Layla has no escape and no cc so opponents just dive her and she cant do anything about it. Compare her to Moskov he deals more damage and has both a dash and cc.
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u/Rude-Towel-4126 Oct 25 '25
Layla Is a heavy backpack all match but if you manage to get to late game the your team only has to protect her. It's not like w other mm that you have to set for them to get kills, Layla can just kill anyone be tank or squishy in late in 2-3 taps while surrounded by her team and out of range of the enemy
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 25 '25
So why isn't she picked by pros if she is that good? A lot of MMs can kill you in 2-3 taps if they are full build and unlike Layla they have escape skills and crowd control skills
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u/Dogging_DaPresBorgi Oct 24 '25
"JUST DIVE HER" Lol. Its a 5v5 game bro. have you face against a Layla that hits halfway your screen with map awareness, good positioning and good team comp? Good luck diving that one.
Also Moskov is fine but can't outdamage Layla. Remember the Layla that hits like a truck just previous seasons?
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 24 '25
So Layla requires teammates to protect her other MMs have dashes so they can escape on their own? Why Layla can have teammates but opponents cant?
And yes Moskov can outdamage Layla. Layla had no cc Moskov will just pin her to the wall and end her.
Pros know who sre the OP heroes who gets picked more Layla or Moskov?
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u/youngdeer25 Oct 24 '25
holy shit that’s huge buff for thamuz just for the skin debut
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u/havecoffeeatgarden Oct 24 '25
Ikr right i thought what isn’t he already plenty strong for a 1v1 lol
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 24 '25
Well to be fair that skin looks really good.
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u/darkzero09 Oct 25 '25
i'm just glad they didn't treat like what they did to layla. cause that thamuz skin looks sick! and i want to get as cheap as possible, lol
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u/VintageCarnate Oct 25 '25
will the other 11.11 skins be available when that event comes back? I've been thinking of getting gusion or nolans 11.11 skin but i sadly missed them lol
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Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
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u/juan_cena99 Oct 24 '25
The unholy trinity MMs need buffs bro. They are the weakest MMs but the ones newbies use the most because they are simple heroes.
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u/Ronova_MMIV Oct 24 '25
Layla don't need a buff. She is too dominant in the late game especially if she is partnered with a good tank. I always play Arlott damage in roam just to counter her.
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Oct 24 '25
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Layla's one is basically a reverted nerf from couple months ago
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Thamuz's one is really significant, looking good.
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Bane's magic build was always toxic if it's good, last time he was like this was when Beatrix was released, and no one enjoyed getting reduced to atoms by single spit, including myself. Definitely one of the hardest heroes to balance because of his versatile builds
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u/aidensummers Oct 24 '25
Everyone: nerf layla's range Moonton: so we heard you loud and clear, we're increasing her damage late game because it's not enough
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u/Im21yearsoldAndIride Oct 24 '25
Health buff...
Look Im not sure if Health buff is gonna help Thamuz to increase his survivability
but damage plays an important role too in his survivability
like come on if you put more tankiness health sure you can survive longer but not for long
you can sustain to keep your health up
but if you lack amount of damage you can heal but you can't kill the enemy who is attacking you
and before you know it you're done because you've given enough time for the other enemy team to take you down.
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u/Frosty_Seat8909 Oct 24 '25
Bro this buff basically makes Thamuz a raid boss in teamfights. I can see him holding a lane against 5 enemies at once after this buff, it’s not even funny.
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u/Im21yearsoldAndIride Oct 25 '25
You see him but you dont play him what kind of feedback is that?
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u/Frosty_Seat8909 Oct 25 '25
I play jungler and playing an immobile hero in jungle will result in me getting chain cc’ed and be horrible at taking objectives. What kind of drugs are you on? Not all people play multiple roles.
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u/Im21yearsoldAndIride Oct 25 '25
Completely forgot about the Anti Heal Items and Anti Tank Items?
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u/Frosty_Seat8909 Oct 25 '25
Completely forgot about the anti heal nerf? Completely forgot about marksman’s scaling speed nerf? You’re 21 years old, you must be old enough to use at least 5% of your brain.
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Oct 24 '25
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u/Tigreal Oct 24 '25
🤔
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u/Im21yearsoldAndIride Oct 24 '25
Look, I’m not sure if this new Health buff is actually going to help Thamuz’s survivability.
Extra HP sounds good on paper, but survivability for a fighter like Thamuz doesn’t just come from tankiness — it comes from damage output too.If you stack more health, sure, you’ll last a bit longer… but not for long.
Thamuz survives because he deals enough damage to sustain himself through his lifesteal and burn effects.
When you lower his damage or don’t improve it, he can’t kill the enemy fast enough to keep healing.Before you know it, he’s done — because all that extra HP just gave the enemy more time to focus him down.
In short:
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u/Tigreal Oct 24 '25
Your shorter version explains it better
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u/Im21yearsoldAndIride Oct 25 '25
So that means my negative votes are positive truthful votes that people hate the fact what I said was true
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u/Famous_Dimension_207 Feb 05 '26
I've been playing Mobile Legends for a long time. So I want to join the Advance server and play. I'm asking you to open the Advance server, dear moonton. I want to know about new heroes and events in the Advance server in advance and I'm trying to become a content creator.