r/LithuanianLearning • u/Significant-Item-964 • 18d ago
I need help with the passive participle.
(Passive participle = neveikiamasis dalyvis)
Hello, as the title says, are there any "cheatcodes" or ways to memorize their structure?
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u/yuuurgen 18d ago
There are 3 of them, which one are you referring to? And what cheatcodes do you mean, they are pretty simple in their structure (but not in usage)
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u/PasDeTout 18d ago
I think it all depends on what way of learning works best. I find simple repetition both out-loud and physically with a pen and paper help me. I also find some things easier to learn in context ie as a phrase or short sentence.
It might be helpful to see them all grouped like this: www.old.lituanus.org/1987/87_1_04.htm
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u/Wonderful-Guest1075 18d ago
I just tried to look these up from a foreigner’s perspective and I completely understand why you’re having trouble with this
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u/geroiwithhorns 17d ago edited 15d ago
It's basically adjectives made from verb, so it has all the perks of verb and adjective:
Adjective: you can incline it in singular, plural, gender ways as for example:
| Adj. Prop. | Femine, singular, norm | Male, singular, norm | Femine, plural, norm | Male, plural, norm |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Verb prop. (Present tense) | Walking girl | Walking boy | Walking girls | Walking boys |
| Vaikštanti mergaitė | Vaikštantis berniukas | Vaikštančios mergaitės | Vaikštantys berniukai | |
| Fem, sing, dative | Male, singular, dative | Femine, plural, dative | Male, plural, dative | |
| for Walked girl | for Walked boy | for Walked girls | for Walked boys | |
| (Past Tense) | Vaikščiojusiai mergaitei | Vaikščiojusiam berniukui | Vaikščiojusiom | |
| mergaitėm | Vaikščiojusiams berniukams |
Edit/extra:
Passive participles have three tenses:
-
past, which is made of infinitive with t. For example: This book was written by me | Ši knyga yra parašyta manęs | pa-rašy
ti+t +a/as. -
present, which is made of 3rd person's present tense with m. For example: This book is being written by me | Ši knyga yra rašoma manęs |
ji/jisrašo+m +a/as. -
future, which is made of 2nd person's future tense with m. For example: She is going to be my wife | Ji būsima mano žmona |
tubūsi +m +a/as.
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u/gerry_r 15d ago
Ahem, those are not passive participles.
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u/geroiwithhorns 15d ago edited 15d ago
Oh, sorry.
Passive participles have three tenses:
past, which is made of infinite with t. For example: This book was written by me | Ši knyga yra parašyta manęs | pa-rašy
ti+t +a/as.present, which is made of 3rd person's present tense with m. For example: This book is being written by me | Ši knyga yra rašoma manęs |
ji/israšo+m +a/as.future, which is made of 2nd person's future tense with m. For example: She is going to be my wife | Ji būsima mano žmona |
tubūsi +m +a/as.
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u/gerry_r 15d ago
Not sure what "cheatcodes" you need.
Formation of passive participles is straightforward and AFAIK, universal (no exceptions).
FORMATION OF PASSIVE PARTICIPLES
Present Passive Participles are formed from the third-person present tense of verbs with the suffix -m-: esamas, esama; beriamas, beriama ; brėžiamas, brėžiama ; mylimas, mylima
Past Passive Participles are formed from the infinitive stem with the suffix -t-: būtas, būta ; eitas, eita ); matytas, matyta ; žiūrėtas, žiūrėta .
Future Passive Participles are formed from the second-person future tense of verbs with the suffix -m-: būsimas, būsima ).
Add an appropriate ending for case/number/gender (the same as for adjective)
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u/Motor-Bag1436 10d ago
well i'd focus on common patterns rather than memorizing every form separately, group em by gender and case makes lithunian principles much easier to remember
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u/Meizas 18d ago
-mas: the thing being ______ed
-tas: the thing that was _____ed
-antis: the thing that is ______ing
-simas: the thing that will be ______ed/ing (as a non native speaker, I doubt you'll ever use this)
-ęs/-usi: the thing/person who has _____ed
Honestly, -tas is the most important at the stage you're at.