r/LithuanianLearning • • 18d ago

I need help with the passive participle.

(Passive participle = neveikiamasis dalyvis)

Hello, as the title says, are there any "cheatcodes" or ways to memorize their structure?

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u/Meizas 18d ago

-mas: the thing being ______ed

-tas: the thing that was _____ed

-antis: the thing that is ______ing

-simas: the thing that will be ______ed/ing (as a non native speaker, I doubt you'll ever use this)

-ęs/-usi: the thing/person who has _____ed

Honestly, -tas is the most important at the stage you're at.

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u/gerry_r 15d ago edited 15d ago

Not all of those are passive participles.

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u/Meizas 15d ago

Oh, right lol we're talking about active.

-ęs/-usi is active, it's just past active

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u/yuuurgen 18d ago

There are 3 of them, which one are you referring to? And what cheatcodes do you mean, they are pretty simple in their structure (but not in usage)

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u/Grazhke 18d ago

It was one of the most annoying and difficult shit for me to learn as a native speaker, along with comma placements

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u/PasDeTout 18d ago

I think it all depends on what way of learning works best. I find simple repetition both out-loud and physically with a pen and paper help me. I also find some things easier to learn in context ie as a phrase or short sentence.

It might be helpful to see them all grouped like this: www.old.lituanus.org/1987/87_1_04.htm

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u/Wonderful-Guest1075 18d ago

I just tried to look these up from a foreigner’s perspective and I completely understand why you’re having trouble with this

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u/geroiwithhorns 17d ago edited 15d ago

It's basically adjectives made from verb, so it has all the perks of verb and adjective:

Adjective: you can incline it in singular, plural, gender ways as for example:

Adj. Prop. Femine, singular, norm Male, singular, norm Femine, plural, norm Male, plural, norm
Verb prop. (Present tense) Walking girl Walking boy Walking girls Walking boys
Vaikštanti mergaitė Vaikštantis berniukas Vaikštančios mergaitės Vaikštantys berniukai
Fem, sing, dative Male, singular, dative Femine, plural, dative Male, plural, dative
for Walked girl for Walked boy for Walked girls for Walked boys
(Past Tense) Vaikščiojusiai mergaitei Vaikščiojusiam berniukui Vaikščiojusiom
mergaitėm Vaikščiojusiams berniukams

Edit/extra:

Passive participles have three tenses:

  • past, which is made of infinitive with t. For example: This book was written by me | Ši knyga yra parašyta manęs | pa-rašyti +t +a/as.

  • present, which is made of 3rd person's present tense with m. For example: This book is being written by me | Ši knyga yra rašoma manęs | ji/jis rašo+m +a/as.

  • future, which is made of 2nd person's future tense with m. For example: She is going to be my wife | Ji būsima mano žmona | tu būsi +m +a/as.

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u/gerry_r 15d ago

Ahem, those are not passive participles.

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u/geroiwithhorns 15d ago edited 15d ago

Oh, sorry.

Passive participles have three tenses:

  • past, which is made of infinite with t. For example: This book was written by me | Ši knyga yra parašyta manęs | pa-rašyti +t +a/as.

  • present, which is made of 3rd person's present tense with m. For example: This book is being written by me | Ši knyga yra rašoma manęs | ji/is rašo+m +a/as.

  • future, which is made of 2nd person's future tense with m. For example: She is going to be my wife | Ji būsima mano žmona | tu būsi +m +a/as.

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u/gerry_r 15d ago

Not sure what "cheatcodes" you need.

Formation of passive participles is straightforward and AFAIK, universal (no exceptions).

FORMATION OF PASSIVE PARTICIPLES

Present Passive Participles are formed from the third-person present tense of verbs with the suffix -m-: esamas, esama; beriamas, beriama ; brėžiamas, brėžiama ; mylimas, mylima

Past Passive Participles are formed from the infinitive stem with the suffix -t-: būtas, būta ; eitas, eita ); matytas, matyta ; žiūrėtas, žiūrėta .

Future Passive Participles are formed from the second-person future tense of verbs with the suffix -m-: būsimas, būsima ).

Add an appropriate ending for case/number/gender (the same as for adjective)

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u/Motor-Bag1436 10d ago

well i'd focus on common patterns rather than memorizing every form separately, group em by gender and case makes lithunian principles much easier to remember