r/IrishFishing • • Aug 12 '24

Mackerel, handling, dispatching, storing, preparing and cooking.

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I just thought I'd post this because Mackerel are one of the first fish anyone will catch themselves, and one of the best tasting fish in the sea. I think a lot of people are put off eating fish due to them not being stored right , and being past their best, or eating a bone. This post is to help people out.

Handling

If you are out on a boat and you're fishing for something else and have caught as many mackerel as you need, but you keep catching them as a nuisance catch. you can put them back safely and they will survive. Once you don't touch their skin. If you touch the skin, it actually damages the skin irreparably and they will die within a day or two. So just catch the shank of the hook and shake it off like Taylor Swift. If you don't touch the skin they will be grand.

Dispatching

If you want to kill the fish upon catching (I do this because it's a bit more human) it's easy to break their neck- just get your fingers in under the gills and break the neck. Instant and painless and no flopping in the bucket for 5 minutes. Note: they may shit themselves as you do it so point the tail away from you!

Storing

Myths: They have to be eaten the day you catch them

They have to be gutted the second you catch them, else they will rot

You have to take off the head the second you catch them, else they will go bad

The single most important factor in your mackerel lasting more than a day is getting the fish as cold as humanly possible as fast as humanly possible. That is the thing that stops the bacteria getting going and spoiling the fish. If the mackerel is left sitting in the box or the bucket for a few hours and not being chilled, no amount of ice or being put in the fridge is going to make it last.

What I do is bring along a standard picnic cooler. Nothing fancy mine is 20 years old from argos. I put a bag or two of ice in it from the super market and then top up with sea water. After a little bit, that sea water will be ice cold. As you catch your fish, put them straight into the cooler. They have no chance to warm up and they get straight into a chilled state. When you get home, you can just transfer the fish from the cooler to your fridge. You know you are doing it right when you're transferring the fish and they are as stiff as a board, rather than the floppy nasty ones that have been in the plastic bag. I have kept whole ungutted mackerel in the fridge for three days in this way and they have been perfect.

Preparing

Now you have got your mackerel stored right, it would be a shame to ruin it with screwing up preparing it.

If you're going cooking the fish whole, like on the BBQ or under the grill, you will need to gut it. No big deal everyone should be able to do that. Eating mackerel whole from the BBQ is one of the best things in the world, but people need to warn their guests about the bones. The flesh from the lateral line upwards to the top (towards the dorsal fin) doesnt have any bones and you can munch into it with confidence. However anything south of the lateral line is prone to have very fine bones (both pin bones and belly bones) and you need to take a bit of care.

If you are filleting it, the first thing you need is a good sharp knife. There is no greater hardship than fish prep with a blunt knife. The type of knife is up to you, just make sure its not too big (like a huge chef knife) and its good and sharp.

If you are filleting the fish, no need to worry about gutting it. Follow the river cottage video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwcnxAMP3l4

There are a couple of really important things to note here. The first is taking off the belly bones. There are two sets of bones in a mackerel fillet- the pin bones and the belly bones. You really should get rid of both. I have seen countless people like fishmongers and TV chefs who remove the pin bones (with the "V-Cut" shown above) but never remove the belly bones. If you are going to the trouble of filleting the mackerel, you should do it right.

Cooking

This is certainly the easiest part because fresh mackerel are next to impossible to screw up.

If I dont want to mess about with prep, I love to grill them whole on the BBQ. You can take off the head it makes it look nicer but not essential. They need to be gutted. Gas grill, charcoal BBQ, over an open fire, its all good. You can go simple- olive oil, salt and pepper , or rub them with a nice spice rub. Mackerel is amazing with cajun spice rubs, harissa that kind of thing. It's robust so it can stand up to it. Cook the mackerel until the flesh is white and it parts easily off the bone. If you are a temp guy, its cooked like all fish at about 55 DegC.

If you really really want to impress and you have time, , the River Cottage recipe of mackerel stuffed with salsa verde is absolutely unreal. I've made this for people who dont eat fish and they have had amazing reactions to it.

https://www.rivercottage.net/recipes/mackerel-stuffed-with-salsa-verde

Note: he says to leave the two fillets joined at the tail (it looks fancier) i dont bother I just fillet them normally and then stuff and tie them up.

Thats the mackerel mega post, I hope you find it useful


r/IrishFishing • • Jun 15 '16

Online Fishing Resources

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Please collate all the links or resources that you would use planning or out fishing. please comment with ones that you want to share.


r/IrishFishing • • 3h ago

Saved a blank in heavy rain #riverpiking

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17 Upvotes

Got out for a few hours yesterday morning scouting a few new spots and throwing a lure around, managed one !


r/IrishFishing • • 1d ago

Freshwater Fishing Wexford Piking

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What's the story lads, spending some time in Wexford and I've the chance to fish here again as well. I've done reasonably well over the summer on Bass from Dublin down to Waterford all along the coast in different places...

As it's slowing down now I'd like to chase the pike a bit for a change, I usually just fish with lures.

I'm wondering is Wexford much of a place to be targeting Pike and Perch?

I'm wondering if I can go in the slaney to target Pike? I have one small lake it's hard to get to tho


r/IrishFishing • • 1d ago

Won't come apart!

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Anyone any idea have to get this Penn Beach Casting rod apart? Tried all the old tricks like putting behind your legs and using good grippy gloves.

It will not budge!!!


r/IrishFishing • • 1d ago

Has anyone fished dalkey island?

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Everytime I fish colimore there's a guy going there by boat bringing people to and back from dalkey island. I just want to know if anyone has fished it and if they have caught


r/IrishFishing • • 2d ago

Is this a good trout

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226 Upvotes

Caught this in a resovour on a size 2 spinner it was my first ever trout and 3rd fish I’ve ever caught after 2 small rud
i think it was about 2lbs


r/IrishFishing • • 2d ago

Renting a fishing boat on Lough derg.

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Who is the best person to go to for boat rentals on the Derg? Looking to go out Saturday for the day and don’t want to be spending a fortune.


r/IrishFishing • • 2d ago

Freshwater Fishing Pike spots near Athlone city center?

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A mates dad works in athlone city centre so he has offered us a lift down to athlone on tuesday was wondering if there was anywhere decent along the shannon close enough to the city obviously most areas are gonna be super pressured and unfortunately poached also so not expecting the best fishing but i think there should be some pike around somewhere we are not looking for trophies just some good numbers maybe some jacks we are gonna be deadbaiting and using lures i also realize the river will be at least slightly flooded from the weather so im not sure how that effects the fish but we are gonna try anyway and any bit of advice is appreciated thank you


r/IrishFishing • • 5d ago

Best fishing spots in Ireland?

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r/IrishFishing • • 5d ago

Pike fishing after a storm!

6 Upvotes

How do storms (like we can expect in the coming days) affect pike fishing (especially in lakes). Especially in regards to spinning?


r/IrishFishing • • 5d ago

Sea Fishing Mackerel fishing advice

2 Upvotes

New to the Irish fishing scene, any advice on location and lure for fishing mackerel from the shore in Cork?


r/IrishFishing • • 6d ago

Sea Fishing Best spots in cork for rays

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Anyone know of any good spots for rays in cork I have tried ballycotton pier and garryvoe beach but had no luck unfortunately.


r/IrishFishing • • 6d ago

Experience with “fishing structure”

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“If you come across structure you need to fish it”, “I’m fishing around this tree”, “see those submerged logs? Definitely a fish there”

Always hear stuff like this and it very rarely pays off for me. The only time it kind of works is with trout. Pike, perch, coarse fish they just seem to be wherever the want to be. Anyone else notice this or am I doing it wrong?


r/IrishFishing • • 6d ago

Travel fishing rod

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Hi, would you recommend any travel fishing rod that would work for most waters and could fit in the baggage and car? Probably something around 10-40 g.

Would you buy a brand one or something from Temu?


r/IrishFishing • • 6d ago

Bait Fishing Deadbaiting tips and rigs etc

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Hey people, just curious to know what type of rigs you all use in regards to deadbaiting? Any preferred methods more than most and as to why you prefer it? Im trying to sharpen my skills before the cold weather settles looking for those big elusive river pike, im dead set on getting a big pike on a river rather than a landlocked water like a lake, reason being is because if you miss her once, chances are you probably won't ever see her again, feel free to comment away here and we could get a great thread going !!! 🐊🎣


r/IrishFishing • • 6d ago

Sea Fishing Best spots in cork for flatfish

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Looking to catch a flatfish for the first time,have the bait the equipment and the rigs but unfortunately have never been able to get one. Any spots of high luck would be greatly appreciated in cork.


r/IrishFishing • • 7d ago

Floats, a page from the complete book of fishing

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Picked up this great book second hand today and thought some of ye might find this interesting - I’ve never really understood the different types of floats and what they’re for.

Below is all of the text transcribed from the page:

FLOATS
TACKLE
The floats shown here are used as follows:
Avons: in turbulent, fast-flowing water
Loafers: for grayling and chub fishing in fast-flowing rivers
Zoomers: weighted floats for casting long distances on still waters
Crystal wagglers: on still or slow waters
Sticks: for fishing close-in on rivers
Balsas: on medium to fast waters
Onions: on still waters
Crystals: on still or slow waters
Peacock wagglers: on still or slow moving waters
Polywags: on still or moving waters, especially in strong winds
Swingers: close-in fishing on rippled waters
Driftbeaters: for good resistance to wind drift on still waters
Darts: for close-in fishing on still waters and canals
Antennas: for sensitive presentation on still waters
Pole floats: for pole fishing
Pike floats: for predators such as pike

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The float is one of the most sensitive and versatile bite indicators an angler could wish to use, and it not only gives excellent bite indication, it also allows the bait to be presented in a natural way.

Plastics, such as polycarbonates, dominate float production these days. Early floats were made from porcupine quills or the quills of bird feathers, with bodies of cork, elder pith or balsa if extra buoyancy was needed.

Of these materials, balsa is still used quite extensively, and for the ‘waggler’ type of floats a better material than peacock quills has yet to be found. There is, as yet, no synthetic material to match it for its combination of strength, lightness and buoyancy, although synthetics can always beat quill on price and availability.

Sarkansas reed, which has a buoyancy similar to that of peacock quill, is another natural material still used for making float stems, along with cane and balsa.

To make a waggler float, a small metal eye is inserted into the bottom of the stem. For partially-weighted wagglers, a small brass or steel rod, with one end formed into an eye, is fitted into the stem.
In use, the reel line is passed through the eye of the waggler and the float is locked in position with a split shot or shots on the line at each side of the eye. Other types of float are fixed to the line through the eye of the float.

Despite the hundreds of different shapes and sizes of floats available, most of them fall into just one of two general groups: those fixed to the line at the bottom end only, usually through an eye, and those fixed at both the top and bottom ends by rubber bands.
The most popular of all the top and bottom fixed floats are the wire-stemmed balsa or cane stick-type floats. Used only in rivers, these floats allow you to drift the bait slowly downstream. You can hold back hard on the float so that it travels slower than the current, and the bait (usually maggots or casters) will swing forwards ahead of the float. These floats work most effectively at quite close range, certainly no further out than about 1½ rod lengths. Thicker versions, balsa floats carrying more weight, are good in medium to fast water where the lighter ones are less effective.

Two other useful top and bottom fixed floats are the Avon and the loafer (or chub trotter). The Avon float has all its buoyancy concentrated in a balsa body immediately below the tip (also balsa). This allows it to ride evenly through turbulent water such as weir pools, and it can be held back to swing the bait upwards without being dragged off course.

Loafers are made from solid balsa or clear, hollow plastic. They are, in effect, shorter, squatter versions of the balsa float, being much thicker and carrying more weight so that they hold steady in fast currents. Their thick tips are easily visible even when they're fished a long way downstream, and they're ideal for grayling or chub fishing in fast rivers.

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The most versatile of all floats are the peacock quill wagglers, which are fixed bottom end only. A handful of peacock wagglers of various sizes would easily meet threequarters of all float fishing requirements, either in still or running water. They are locked on the line with split shot either side of the eye, and in running water they're always fished preceding the bait.

If all the weight is concentrated around the float, very slow-moving swims can be fished well over depth so that the bait trundles along the bottom very slowly, with just a couple of tiny shots down the line.

A peacock waggler works equally well with all the shots close to the hook, for fishing with the lift method. With all the shots down at the hook, the float is fixed to the line with a rubber float band.
The bodied peacock waggler allows you to cast further than with the waggler, because the extra buoyancy provided by its polystyrene body allows more shot to be used. As well as being useful for fishing distant swims, these floats are good in windy weather, but remember to sink the line well to avoid surface drift.

To facilitate quick, easy changing of all waggler style floats, use a rubber or plastic float attachment. This threads onto the line just like the bottom of a float, and the float is simply pushed into it.

Darts are tiny, bulbous-bottomed floats with extra-fine tips, designed to indicate the tiniest of bites. They are good for close-in in still water. Pole floats are also very small, cigar-shaped floats sometimes with superfine ‘bristle’ tips. They may be fixed at the bottom end only or top and bottom, and they work in just the same way as other floats. They are, however, much easier to control (which is why they're smaller) because the pole tip is positioned directly above, with as little line as possible between tip and float.

For float fishing at night, you can use luminous elements which are glued to the float or attached to it by a length of tubing. Alternatively, battery-powered floats (which are more or less the same shape as a bodied waggler) are available.
Most floats used for live or deadbaiting for predators are cigar-shaped slider floats.

The line either passes through an eye at the bottom of the float, or, if it's a tubed float, through a hole running right through the float from end to end.
Drift floats, which have little vanes or sails which catch the wind to take them and the bait (live or dead) out beyond casting distance, are useful for predator fishing from the bank on large waters.


r/IrishFishing • • 8d ago

Does any1 have any info on ervey lough just outside of kingscourt?

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r/IrishFishing • • 9d ago

Sea Fishing Here a few photos from the best day of fishing ive ever had.

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Went out 3rd year in row to a fishing charter in sligo.

Caught 3 tuna. Saw dophins throughout the whole day 2 whales and weather was perfect.

With mountains around me it felt like some magic mystical place not the Ireland im used to. Highly recommend Darly Ewings charter to anyone.

All tuna above 2m and biggest around 212cm with a big belly.


r/IrishFishing • • 8d ago

Winter Sea Fishing

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Odds of picking up something big on the beaches off Wicklow over the winter, ideally something like a cod. Unsure of what can be caught off somewhere like greystones or kilcoole.


r/IrishFishing • • 9d ago

Freshwater Fishing Adam smashes his pb

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Took the kids out for a day of deadbaiting. Overall it was a very slow day with one run only but when it ran it ran lol

It was Adam's turn to land this fish and boy was he happy he did 😁


r/IrishFishing • • 8d ago

Sea fishing

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Looking at getting in to a bit of sea fishing over the winter months in the Louth area happy to travel spent a bit of time over the summer months catching mackerel just bought a 15ft rod for a bit of dead baiting if anyone has advice or tips


r/IrishFishing • • 8d ago

Dublin Mackerel

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I’ve been landing mackerel the last three days. On Saturday I went with the intention of fishing for bass, first cast I caught a mackerel on a metal lure and then decided to rig up the feathers. Has anyone else been catching mackerel around Dublin the past few days? I really thought it would be too late in the year for them.


r/IrishFishing • • 8d ago

Has anyone heard these names for male and female salmon?

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