[DnT] Raid Team Composition Guide

[u/Nike_Phoros]

Hey everyone. I wrote a long breakdown of raid team composition in the current meta on our forums and a few people encouraged me to post it here because I'm told it would be helpful for a bigger chunk of the community to see.

Written: http://gw2dnt.enjin.com/forum/m/37173123/viewthread/27286030-raid-team-composition-guide-52516

Topics Covered:

1. Optimal Raid Team Composition

2. Common Alternative Comps - Pros and Cons

3. What If? Scenarios For Imperfect Situations

Thanks for reading. If you have any questions let me know, or if any points need clarifying or whatever so I can improve the guide I'd like to know that too.

[u/FennecOwO]

How did you determine that Rev+Mes>Ele+Mes? Especially on big hitboxes shouldnt Ele pull ahead?

But its nice to see to finally see a cohesive raid comp guide, we were lacking one.

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/FennecOwO]

How did you determine that Rev+Mes>Ele+Mes?

Used standard DPS golem #'s published by your guild as well as our own observations.

[u/[deleted]]

I guess this proves there is more than one way to skin the raid cat.

Totally different from what we do in XHSA. Interesting read though always nice to see what others find effective.

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/[deleted]]

Curious what setup you use if not 442, 721 or 55?

[u/ateafly]

In your 5/5 comp discussion you say you'd want 2 revenants to buff the mesmers, but can't a zerker mesmer (with food and concentration sigil) maintain 100% quickness on 5 people?

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/ateafly]

I think it should be.

[u/lokikaraoke]

What's your favorite salsa at Chipotle? Personally I prefer the pico (mild), but I sometimes like to get the medium (tomatillo?) with the pork.

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/lokikaraoke]

I like all 3 in a burrito together. On Tacos I like mild, but with medium or hot on the side to just add a little to for flavor.

[u/The_Tyger]

Can you explain the revenant in party 3 with the mesmer in the 4-4-2 comp? Id like to understand better why that helps boonshare. (Raid Noob)

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/The_Tyger]

the Mesmer will be using Signet of Inspiration to spread Fury, trace Might, and Protection (if needed) that he or she receives from the Rev as a bi-product of spreading his or her own Quickness.

[u/King_Hippitus]

No love for condiengineers.... Snif snif

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/King_Hippitus]

Biggest issue is lack of unique buffs. engie has higher single target DPS than Necro or Warrior but necro and warrior bring so much more unique buffing potential. Condi engie either needs massive DPS buffs (unlikely due to PvP issues?) or some special utility.

[u/Octavian-]

Fantastic write up. I really like the focus on giving practical advice to various groups rather than "this is the highest dps, run it or gtfo." Also like the mention of protection. More than once I have run into pug groups that think they are better than protection.

Thoughts on rev vs guard for providing protection? All else being equal, I generally prefer rev to guard since it allows me bring a higher dps than the guard. I would guess the up time is a bit better as well but I'm not sure.

If you guys have done any number crunching as well I'd be interested in seeing that.

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/Octavian-]

Thoughts on rev vs guard for providing protection? All else being equal, I generally prefer rev to guard since it allows me bring a higher dps than the guard. I would guess the up time is a bit better as well but I'm not sure.

I prefer the Rev too because most of the time the Protection is only needed in the final phases of fights when the chaos gets higher and by then your team should have enough Fury and Might going that the Rev can afford to use Protection. The only drawback is that it requires your Rev to use his or her brain to judge when the time to pump prot is right.

[u/Eitth]

For matthias, as a PSwarrior should i stick to GS or switch to condiPS? I heard CondiPS works better when the boss moves a lot, and the firefield can help clearing the ice thingy. But my gmates told me condiPS has almost no dps.

[u/ThatChindian]

What's your opinion on using a condi PS war?

u/Nike_Phoros

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/ThatChindian]

Discussed that a few posts above.

[u/gahata]

Can't condi PS provide might for one team in 4-4-2 or 5-5 while keeping DPS better than standard power variant?

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/gahata]

5-5 might be a stretch but 442 its no problem. The issue is for condi PS to be worth it you need Burning Arrows. If you have BA you lose Empowered Allies. So my position is that you really want whatever subsquad you put the condi PS in to be condi heavy so losing EA isn't a problem.

[u/RedGearedMonkey]

A little late, but thanks for the interesting read.

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/RedGearedMonkey]

youre welcome

[u/ishin_rikku]

I hope this helps people realize that Thief is a worthy pick. Also it's about time that pugs start realizing that Elementalist is not THAT important (i've seen pugs denying Revs and thiefs just for the sake of stacking Eles)

[u/ateafly]

What are your thoughts on bringing 1 or 2 Stone spirits as an alternative to a guardian (replace it with a thief or ele)?

[u/Nike_Phoros → u/ateafly]

It works pretty well, especially if you have a Druid with Nature magic to make the Protection uptime much higher. We use Stone Spirit at Mattias where hammer symbols would have obvious drawbacks.

[u/Level7WebTroll]

What do you guys think it would take to make a power necro (GS or dagger) wanted in raids? I dont mean as just a filler comment, I mean, what unique mechanic would make you consider a power necro for a spot.

I dont imply make it necessary, I mean a very viable--not begrudgingly viable. For example, there are a few condi options, viper necro has lower single target than some, but comes with some AoE options that make you think its ok to do some swapping.