r/Guildwars2 • u/dulfy dulfy.net • Dec 12 '13
[Guide] Ascended Armor crafting guide & breakdown
Hey everyone, I have written an ascended armor crafting guide with detailed breakdown of the various mats for those who are looking to craft their ascended armor piece and have not done so already. The guide is fairly massive and there could be some mistakes so feel free to point them out if you see them.
Guides
Ascended Armor stats
As requested, here is a breakdown of the Ascended armor stats and also a comparison with current exotic armor. You will gain roughly 5% stat increase by switching from exotic to the ascended armor version. On some pieces this 5% increase simply translate to 1-2 stat increase.
Discussion
I also want to give you guys some interesting breakdowns on crafting full sets
Tailor
Here is the mat cost for full set
http://i.imgur.com/xpvV18T.jpg
Bolt of Damask is time gated (only 1 produced per day) but you can speed it up by buying them from the TP. They are priced at 16 gold each atm but prices will drop fairly soon. If you don't buy any from the TP you are looking at crafting for 36 days for your full set.
36 * 16g = 576 gold if you want it immediately. This doesn't factor in the cost for Elonian Leather Square (which is also time gated but much cheaper) and assumes you have 15 Dragonite Ingot/Empyreal Star/Bloodstone Brick already as these cannot be brought.
If you don't have alot of the mats handy you could be looking at spending close to 600 gold for a full set if you want it immediately.
Armorsmith
Here is the mat cost for the full set
http://i.imgur.com/RTE1R8g.jpg
You only need 25 Bolt of Damask, which means you can finish the set in 25 days without buying them from the TP. You also need 16 Deldrimor Steel Ingot, which are priced at 4.5 gold on the TP currently.
(25 x 16) + (4.5 x 16) = 472 gold just for buying all the time gated mats.
Leatherwork
Mat cost for the full set
http://i.imgur.com/0HXMWwN.jpg
Only 24 Bolt of Damask is needed. Elonian Leathers are selling for 1.6 g at the moment so they are almost nothing by comparison. You can finish this set fastest at 24 days if you don't buy Bolts of Damask from the TP.
(24 x 16) + (1.6 x 18) = ~412 gold for buying all the time gated mats. It should come no suprise that medium Ascended armor is the fastest and cheapest out of the three though.
If you spotted an error with the breakdown or if there is something unclear please let me know!
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u/turksquatch Dec 12 '13
You forgot the 2-6 transmutation crystals >.<
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u/dulfy Dec 12 '13
I like the medium set look actually. It is a break from the usual trenchcoat look :)
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u/arekkusuro Dec 12 '13
i find the medium female set actually one of the best looking out of all ascended armor. and it is a nice break from the long coats XDD
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u/Taverius Dec 12 '13
That it is! Medium armour users have been crying for non-trenchcoat options, and they listened.
Unfortunately all my medium armour users are norn, and an armour that doesn't show your tats is no armour for a norn.
Not a big fan of the rooster helmet, mind.
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Dec 12 '13
I like the heavy armor with the dyemixes I've chosen. Haven't played with medium much yet.
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u/MegiddoZO Dec 12 '13
I was hoping I could stomach at least 1 of the parts, as I only have 5 transmution crystals left...
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u/Melancholia Dec 12 '13
Do you have the stats for the armor? Just Primary/secondary, crit damage, and celestial would be amazing, I simply cannot find this information anywhere which is infuriating when trying to plan a build.
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u/dulfy Dec 12 '13
Okay, the Ascended stats page is up. I put a link at top of the post. There is also a comparison with current exotic stats so you can see how much of a stat you gain (~roughly 5%)
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u/ichsagedir Dec 12 '13
If you can understand german, then you can find the info for all armors on the german wiki, here is medium pants for example
It's not on the english wiki, but I think they will update it there soon.
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u/CrimsonReLLiK Dec 12 '13
What absolutely sucks is that the way they designed the material usage, it takes much longer to make light armor then the other two. A week longer. Blame it on the insignias!
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u/Vhalantru Dec 12 '13
That's ridiculous, they should all take the same amount of time.
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u/Celriot1 Dec 12 '13
Do you understand why? It's no different than weapons. Some weapons need 6 ingots (6 crafts, 6 days) while others need 3 ingot/3 wood (6 crafts, 3 days).
Tailoring needs a lot of cloth. That's how it goes. The alternative would be making each craft share a cool down... and I dont think anybody wants that.
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u/Ylvina Dec 12 '13
its 9 and 6 days. a 6 ingot weapon (GS for example) needs 3 more ingot and 3 wood for the dowel.
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u/SageOfTheWise Dec 12 '13
Solution right now would be to sell the damask you craft, then buy back twice as much in a week when the prices are lower.
In the future once things have stabilized again the solution would be to craft damask and whatever the profitable other ascended mats at the time, then sell the ones you don't need to buy more damask.
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u/Bahan1 Dec 12 '13
Thank you for this guide, Dulfy and sorry to kill you almost everyday during my fractal runs.
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u/Iogic Dec 12 '13
Still can't see Light of Dwayna in the TP.
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u/Taverius Dec 12 '13
Right - you can only see the recipe on the tp if you have the recipe already, which is of limited usefulness ...
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u/Maarius81 Dec 12 '13
yesterday in the patchnotes they mentioned to fix the account-bound status of that recipe. A bug.
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Dec 12 '13
It is not account-bound, though, so people are selling it in /map. I bought mine from someone advertising that way.
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Dec 12 '13
So, what I'm getting from this, is that, as a very casual player, I will never be crafting Ascended armor.
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u/IRequireMoreBeer Dec 12 '13
So, what I'm getting from this, is that, as a hardcore player with more than 3500 hours in-game time, I will never be crafting Ascended armor.
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u/ZarathustraEck Dec 12 '13
How's that? I've got a lot going on outside the game, so I only get a couple days a week to play (and then only for a few hours), but I wholly expect to complete a set of Ascended armor.
You're claiming to average around 9 hours of gametime per day over the last year, and can't swing it?
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u/seriousscrub Dec 12 '13
Some people have a level 80 characters of each class, like to mix up builds, and don't do content which drops dragonite ore in any reasonable quantity
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u/bradstah Dec 12 '13
You've got a couple hours a week to play and want to spend it grinding for ascended armor? Pass.
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u/Furin Dec 12 '13 edited Dec 12 '13
So, what I'm getting from this, is that, as a player inbetween with 2k hours in-game time, I will be able to finish an ascended armor set in a month.
Long story short: Stop exaggerating, it's well within your grasp.
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u/BirdOfHermess Dec 12 '13 edited Dec 12 '13
It's not about "within your grasp" or something.
The difference between Exotic Zerker and Asc berserker gear:
+14 power, +11 precision and +1% crit dmg. (dulfy did the maths too)
The 5% are not worth the time, gold and material to craft it. (And Trans-crystals to cover this shitty desinged stuff)
It's like spending 300g-500g for a pink name. And 0,5-1% dmg boost.
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u/Zikory Dec 12 '13
I must add the obligatory "how am I ever going to do this as a WvW only player QQ, QQ"
Thanks dulfy for the guide, It makes things less painful!
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u/huitin Dec 12 '13
how many dragonite ore do you need to craft the whole set?
3000? 500 dragonite per set?
3000 dragonite is alot!
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u/dulfy Dec 12 '13
1500 dragonite ore per set. It is 500 for the chest, and 200 for everything else.
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u/Auesis Dec 12 '13
1500.
1 Vision Crystal (500 for chest) 5 Lesser Vision Crystals (200 for other pieces)
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Dec 13 '13
Once again, thank you Dulfy for devoting your time and effort to making our in-game lives less painful. The community as a whole appreciates it. Happy Holidays :) .
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u/Brit89 Dec 12 '13
Thanks for this Dulfy. The Guild's gonna love this.
On a related note: I'm going for the Light set, as well as the Dwayna backpiece. The Light of Dwayna looks awesome with the Flamekissed Light skin too. I wanted to Transmute the Asc. Armour with that skin, but I'm gonna hold out until they update the look, just in-case.
Anyways, it's probably gonna take me more than a month, or two to complete everything. Mainly as I need more Laurels to get the 3/6 Armour Recipies, and to complete it using 30 more Laurels for the WvW Infusion (don't do Fractals so no point in AR). I tend not to do the Dailies in way of tick-boxing, instead it comes naturally. Monthly's the same, so at my rate - about 2 months for the full set sounds about right.
I honestly don't mind the Mat costs, or the time-gated refinements.. but 30 Laurels for the Recipes is kinda annoying.
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u/krumhur Dec 12 '13
thanks a lot for those charts Dulfy! one (really) minor correction in the Armorsmith chart: it's 640 platinum ore in total (not 650)
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u/ReMarkable91 Dec 12 '13
Realy stop telling everybody that it cost 600 G to craft a set. Bolt of Damansk will also be 4-5 G soon enough. If you make them now(cost 3-4 G each) and sell them first 2 weeks for ~20 G each lets say 15 G proffit a day. That is 210 G proffit in 2 weeks. Then in 4-5 weeks when they are at lets say 5 G each you can buy all 36 needed for the set for 180 G. So then you made a proffit and free set(only sp/karma and t7 account bound mats but you get them for free)
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u/roy777 Apr 25 '14
How soon is soon enough? 4 months later, they cost 13g each.
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u/ReMarkable91 Apr 26 '14
Well yeah seemed I was wrong, went that way with log/iron etc =(
Anyway my point was that she was stating well it costs 600 g so if you don't have that better stay away while it isn't that hard even for a casual to get the mats/gold over time.
Just level up some alts and you will get tons of t2-t4 mats enough for your set nearly.
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u/flipside3 Dec 12 '13
Seems to me that Ascended Armor is more of an economic tool to control supply and demand than anything else. It's already dropped the price of exotics and will certainly suck more crafting materials out of the market. The 5% stat increase is just a carrot to motivate a desired economic response.
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u/hobbit101 Dec 12 '13
Thank you for the list, silly question to any that may know, does the current fractals drop ascended armor crafting mats?
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u/Furin Dec 12 '13
Damn, I totally forgot about the Damask used for the insignias... I was already looking forward to taking only a week for my ascended heavy armor. ;_;
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u/G_L_J Dec 12 '13
I'm making a soldier armor set for WvW, but there's a bit of a quandary on soldier's insignias because you can't craft them. I know you can get them from salvaging exotic soldier armor from the dungeon merchants but is there any other place I could get salvageable soldier armor easily?
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u/FirstRyder Dec 12 '13
Trading post. It's only about 1g more than the other insignias at the moment.
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u/Erebus_gw2 Dec 12 '13
yay i was wondering bout the stat increase...seems its fairly negligible... so i wont have to do that!!!!!
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u/dulfy Dec 12 '13
You right, I missed 3 on the coat and 1 on the leggings. This make it more expensive to buy :(
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u/FractalsRanger Dec 12 '13
Thank you, Dulfy. And thank you ANET for a less costly yet more awesome looking set for my ranger. She's going to look fierce in that.
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Dec 12 '13
You might want to consider putting brackets in your calculations. Not to be nit picky or anything, it just looks off.
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u/orenny Dec 12 '13
It's unnecessary since you learn order of operations in like second grade..
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u/some_electrons Dec 12 '13
Even if it isn't necessary in terms of the math it can help with readability at a glance. Not a big deal here though.
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Dec 12 '13
Exactly. I did say "Not to be nit picky or anything, it just looks off.". And it looks more professional.
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u/Mehrk Dec 12 '13
As someone who played and loved very grindy slow-paced games like FFXI and EQ1 (my favorites ever) along with a hundred other MMOs I find the money-making strategy of A-net to be nothing less than a slap in the face of their fans. I say fans and not gamers because fans are the only people still playing GW2 for anything more than pvp.
They force you to either insert your credit card and get it instantly or spend months and months of your life grinding menial mobs with auto-attack and no chance of dying whatsoever if you want the best gear, or even gear that you think looks the best, which is the only thing that truly matters in GW2 - another sad, yet unrelated fact. Why is this acceptable to people? Why are you ok with simply tallying up the amount of time it's going to take you, marking it on the calendar and then grinding away?
Please don't start any BS about this being a "journey" that you will cherish and remember when you are 90 years old. Anyone who was there to do EQ1's epics when they came out, or FFXI's artifact weapons - THOSE were journeys.. even if it sounds stupid saying it about a game. The word 'journey' does not mean putting a metal sipping bird over my '1' and 'f' keys while next to a mob spawner and alt-tabbing for hours.
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u/Taverius Dec 12 '13
Thanks dulfy! Any news on whether the new backs are intended to not be infuseable?