r/FGO • • Jan 30 '26

Story-Spoilers True magic

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1• Yumina

Magic: ????????????

Reigns over: ▬▬▬, it is not known for certain, some high-ranking bureaucratic magi have knowledge of what the first one implies, it is said that although its domain is unknown, it has to do with “Ether Clumps,” also called “materialized nothingness.” Strictly speaking, the first magic is not the first to appear; the first magic known to have appeared was the third, but even so, due to the characteristics of the first, it should undoubtedly be called “true first magic.” All witches, who are supernatural beings alien to humanity, are related in some way to true first magic.

Yumina is the first and only bearer of the first true magic. She, the user of the First Magic, died long ago, but because magic, by its nature, still has the possibility of being inherited by future generations even if its user is dead, it is considered that the first true magic that was carried by Yumina still exists. Even though the original user of the first true magic has passed away, she is the only existence recognized as worthy of respect by the Barthomeloi clan of the Mages' Association. There are rumors that there is a person who is the “heir” to the first, who is still alive, but barely...eh?

Alice, Aoko's teacher, has remnants of the First Magic in her possession.

2• Zelretch Kishua Schweinorg

Magic: Kaleidoscope

Reigns over: Parallel world operation. It is said that he expanded the hopes of the planet and the worlds, a magic that allows you to connect with parallel worlds, enabling you to observe and interact with them, although its scope is still unknown.

Zelresth uses it to travel frequently through parallel worlds and timelines. It is also described that this magic has the ability to rewrite the world, to the point that the revision of records and the rewriting of events also fall under his domain.

Zelresth observes and records all possible parallel worlds with his omniscient gaze, seeing how they will end. Zelresth is very careful when doing this and limits himself to direct interference and even total observation unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. because without such care, the world that is observed above the others, one possibility among infinite possibilities, will instantly consolidate itself as the true reality and the others as false.

Zelresth's way of using one of the functions of the latter is to store magical power in minerals such as jewels (“oh, in fact, the Tohsaka's inherit this peculiar way of doing sorcery”), stabilize it, and use it for various aids in lifestyle and civilization. If Earth had not fallen into human hands and remained in the age of the gods, could he have handled this more easily as an apostle?

The second magic is the testing and operation of parallel worlds. By allowing travel to parallel worlds, it demonstrates that there is room for different development in the world.

Thanks to this, the world has increased life expectancy. This is because the concept that “our history is a failure and self-destruction, but there may be others who have succeeded” gave hope to a planet that was losing its dreams.

Zelretch's method of traveling through parallel worlds is simple; he is transported to a “gem” on Earth in a different time axis.

For example, if you want to go from world A to world B, the gems of world B will come together until they form the shape of Zelretch, and Zelretch's soul will be transferred there. In an instant, the gem golem transforms into Zelretch, and the Zelretch who was in World A at that moment returns to his original form of gems.

He can travel anywhere in the world where minerals and gems exist, but since he only has one soul, he cannot be active in several places at the same time. Originally, he traveled using a more complicated method, but for various reasons, he decided that this method was the easiest.

The second characteristic is the ability to control time to a certain extent and resurrect the dead by unconventional means, but this is not total resurrection; that miracle has not been granted by magic for a long time.

3• Justeaze Lizrich von Einzbern (the original user is unknown and is known to have disappeared even before Christ)

Magic: Heaven's Feel

Reigns over: Materialization of the soul

It is said that “Oh Fate Stay Night is a story about the third.”

The third is said to be the first true magic achieved by the Von Einzbern family, although it predates the first true magic. The third magic is not called the first because the first true magic has characteristics that allow it to be called “first” even above it. The Von Einzberns have spent eight centuries trying to achieve it again, because at some point before the Von Einzbern's desperate search, the original bearer disappeared and the Von Einzbern family died out during those eight centuries, leaving only homunculi who continue the Von Einzbern's search. Even the Holy Grail War system is a desperate means of trying to return to it, a means that failed.

It is said that the original bearer of the magic was an anonymous magician dating back to before 100 BC at some point in the age of the gods and “died” before the beginning of the common era, but only the bearer of the first is actually recognized as dead, and the other four are “alive.”

Heaven feels

The materialization of the soul in the world without an anchor. The soul is what holds an individual's memories, mind, and magical circuits. The body is the anchor that keeps the individual tied to the world so that their soul is not dragged into the Akasha and disappears from this world irretrievably. The third eliminates this impediment, giving the soul total freedom, true immortality. Heaven feels prevents the dispersion of the soul and the Akasha journey to disappear.

By stopping the inevitable dispersion, Heaven feels ascends you to a higher plane, a form of existence superior to the human. The individual no longer depends on the flesh. This is possible because Heaven feels returns the individual to an immortal being of a higher dimension capable of interacting with the world without the need for a mortal body. It also provides an infinite source of energy like a perpetual motion machine.

5• Aozaki Aoko, Miss Blue

Magic: Magic Blue Reigns over: ▬▬▬, although her actual function is unknown, in the hands of an inexperienced Aoko Aozaki, it was seen that she can manipulate time travel and an individual's temporal control, she can even manipulate the laws of conservation of mass to bear the weight of a past without a future. Aoko herself claims that her function should be different, as the second also uses time at will, but Aoko refuses to speculate on this.

It is noted that her domain may be related to the concept of consumption and the concept of extinction.

This is a magic that should not be for humanity or for the planet; neither should have this magic in their hands.

It is quoted: “The first part of fgo is a story of replicating the 5th.”

Goetia, the Beast 1 of the sin of pity, burned countless eras, at countless points in human history, countless humans, collecting that energy to travel to the past and rewrite the planet and its laws. It is pointed out that Ars Amadel Solomonias is the means by which he would carry out his plan. It is also noted that Ars Amadel Solomonias is an almost successful attempt to replicate the fifth True Magic, revealing what its real function could be. This could also mean that the fifth can manipulate heat values into energy to make controlled time travel based on this.

It is quoted, “Hey girl, wasn't it a little selfish to end the universe for a friend? God seems like an old man who enjoys the idea of the universe being destroyed.”

The sixth magic: ???

Although the nature of the sixth magic is unknown, it is probably the Six Law, A system that brings protection and happiness to humanity.

For the moment, the most important example is Olga Marie Animusphere, who brought happiness to the world of Chaldea because she was dissected for decades.

It's possible that it was merely an imitation of what the Six Law could achieve, given that Olga Marie is only a manifestation of the reflection or copy of the Akashic Records; in other words, a key to access.

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u/Silvercenturion_aa Jan 30 '26

Every time you think Olga had it bad, it gets a thousand times worse

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u/Grouchy-Ball1263 Jan 30 '26

And the worst part is that the real Marisbury wouldn't have wanted that, given that the AI is only inspired by what Maris Chaldeas thought of him. 

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u/Pristine_Mark_9097 Jan 30 '26

Just to correct some things.

Zelretch storing magical energy into jewels is not magic, it’s jewel magecraft whose roots originate elsewhere (ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia). He is a very skilled archmage and so uses gems in his application of magic, but that’s like how the Einzberns use alchemy with the 3rd. If you want to talk about an application of the 2nd magic inside a gemstone with magical energy, you are thinking of the Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon. He opens a hole to an infinite number of parallel worlds and draws magical energy from all of them, with the hole seemingly being inside of a gemstone. The jewelled sword and the kaleidosticks use that.

It was not Aoko but Touko that stated that the 5th magic can do more, but refuses to speculate further.

Your explanation of the history of the 3rd magic isn’t wrong… but a lot of the context is missing and misleading. For instance Justeaze did achieve the magic, but she couldn’t use it cost effectively. You also skipped over the reason why the Einzberns died out in the 8th century.

The 6th magic is entirely speculative. Mikiya assumed that it must be the thing that gives us happiness, but we don’t even know if a 6th magic even exists in the first place. Touko has basically come to the conclusion that no new magic past the 5th will appear anymore, and the chances of a 6th magic making an appearance is stated to be abysmally small (though not impossible). Also the 6th law may be completely unrelated to the 6th magic, and you can build a case for both sides of the argument.

While the Olga thing does sound interesting, that’s a large leap in speculation.

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u/ReputationOk7275 Jan 30 '26

I think 6th magic was a mistranslation. However i do have some theories on what i could had been.

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u/Grouchy-Ball1263 Jan 30 '26

Actually, the sixth magic is theorized to be the Six Law, known since Melty Blood. It's a system that protects humanity and brings happiness. According to Mikiya, it might even be able To revive the dead, The only close example of a sixth-law user is Olga Marie Animusphere, and Marisbury supposedly wished for her to bring happiness, but not through what happened. 

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u/Galadriel_Pendragon Jan 31 '26

Isn't there something saying 5th magic is something related to "space travels" too??

I mean, at least is heavily hinted that the Future Aoko who came to defeat Touko in Mahoyo is a "space traveler Aoko", this is more hinted in FGO NP lines too.

So, maybe 5th magic is not "burn infinite things to create eneegy", because well,this IS a known method. Remember, True Magic is a actual miracle, something impossible even in the Magecraft realm. At the moment someone outside the Magician learns how the True Magic works, it stops to be a True Magic and becomes a Magecraft.

And then, my theory is the 5th Magic is not about "burn things", but too "create spontaneous energy". Remember, not even the "Multiverse" has infinity energy,the Prunimg Theoterical Phenomenon exists because of it. Create energy without a source is really something in the realms of miracle. Also, the true purpouse of Goetia was not to burn Human History; he needed more the HEAVILY AMMOUNT of energy to do his time travel than just incinerate Human History.

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u/Grouchy-Ball1263 Jan 31 '26

It's giving something to get something in return

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u/D-v0r Jan 30 '26

Olha has has true Magic?

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u/Grouchy-Ball1263 Jan 30 '26

She is a reflection of the root, Marisbury created her to renew the universe and be a star in the void, but Maris Chaldeas ruined everything.

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u/IncreasePrevious1735 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

The fact that we don't know a damn thing about fourth makes me think about it a little more thoroughly. We know that the fourth "hid itself" and it somehow have connection to the black holes. I think it is authority over concealment. Maybe it can create a miniature universe to protect its user or maybe existence erasure(meh). Maybe it's nature doesn't allow it to be used freely, and it requires to be hidden( for the sake of humanity?). Maybe the fact that we don't know the name of user is also a product of Fourth Magic. Maybe information can be stored in a pocket dimension and people forget about it like it never was there in the first place.

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u/Turbulent_Tale8733 Jan 30 '26

Friend of mine had a theory that the 4th was the complete destruction of energy which would be a counter to the first which is the creation of soemthing from nothing

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u/Ornery_Quality8794 Jan 30 '26
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Honestly very informative for new fans.

Personally 5th magic is the coolest.

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u/xXEliteEater500Xx Jan 30 '26

Aoko supremacy!

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u/DomHyrule Jan 30 '26

Aoko Aozaki is peak

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u/HolyKnight39 Jan 30 '26

Zelresth observes and records all possible parallel worlds with his omniscient qaze, seeing how thev will end Zelresth is verv careful when doina this and limits himself to direct interference and even total observation unless it is absolutelv necessarv to do so. because without such care. the world that is observed above the others, one possibility among infinite possibilities, will instantly consolidate itself as the true reality and the others as false.

Fanfic authors with Zelretch:

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u/GamerX345 Jan 30 '26

Someday we will find out what 4th magic does trust

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u/mtlemos Jan 31 '26

We did live long enough to see ORT, so anything's possible.

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u/Fast-Spot-380 Jan 30 '26

I’m sorry but Zelretch not Zelresth. Overall this is a good summary of the true magics. Also I thought it was said that Christ might have been a user of the third magic

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u/Sufficient-Truth4394 Jan 30 '26

I've always know the first magic as denial of Nothingness, due to fanfiction and it will remain that way till the end of time

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u/Eunuchest Jan 31 '26

Olga has as much connection with the sixth magic as Zepia which is basically little to none

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u/Xantospoc Jan 30 '26

You forgot.... The Magic of love~

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u/Kagemoto Jan 30 '26

The 6th is probably some kind of True Simulation kind of dealio or a super projection/creation of a world

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u/Taka_Kaigan Jan 30 '26

I think 4th magic user is Humanity itself is something so common and average that you probable won't even know is magic.

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u/theblacklightprojekt Jan 31 '26

Olga is not a sixth magic user that is a mistranslation.

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u/Grouchy-Ball1263 Jan 31 '26

No, it's just the closest example to a sixth magic.