r/DivorcedDads • • Aug 17 '26

Divorce takes away a lot of the life you thought you controlled, but gives you a chance to decide what can remain.

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I started this group almost 15 years ago because I was looking for support and answers myself. Ironically, it didn’t really start growing until a lot of my own problems had stabilized and I was further down the road.

At the time I was trying to figure out the same things a lot of guys who come here are trying to figure out now. What happened? Can I fix it? What happens with my kids? What happens to the house, finances, friends, holidays and everything else I assumed would just continue the way it always had?

Looking back, I think one of the hardest parts of separation and divorce is realizing how much of your identity was tied to a life you thought you controlled.

You were a husband. You were part of a family under one roof. You probably had routines and plans for years into the future. Maybe you assumed you would wake up next to the same person, retire together, watch your kids grow up from the same house and spend holidays the way you always had. Then suddenly a lot of those assumptions disappear.

That loss of control can make you desperate to get it back. You want your spouse to understand your side. You want them to change their mind. You want answers that make everything make sense. You may want to convince friends or family that your version of events is the right one. You start trying to control things that, in reality, were never completely yours to control.

You cannot control whether someone loves you, forgives you, stays married to you or understands your side of the story.

You cannot control what they tell other people or what they choose to do with the rest of their life.

What you can control is what you do with yours. That sounds simple, but I think that is where a lot of the actual growth from divorce starts.

Separation and divorce are survivable. Your life is not over, even when it feels like the life you knew is. You can come out of it healthier, more self-aware and even a better father than you were before. But that doesn’t happen automatically just because enough time passes.

At some point you have to take a hard look at yourself too.

That doesn’t mean blaming yourself for everything that happened. Responsibility and blame aren’t the same thing. Someone cheating doesn’t mean you caused them to cheat. Someone being abusive doesn’t mean you caused the abuse. Someone else’s addiction or destructive behavior belongs to them.

But almost all of us have something worth examining.

Maybe you worked too much and told yourself it was for your family. Maybe you enabled behavior for years because keeping the peace was easier. Maybe you stopped standing up for yourself. Maybe you drank too much, checked out, stopped listening, took the relationship for granted or became more interested in winning arguments than understanding the person you were arguing with.

Sometimes the lesson is also that you tolerated things you shouldn’t have tolerated. Figure out what belongs to you, work on it and leave the rest where it belongs.

Because if you walk away believing you did absolutely nothing wrong and there is nothing about yourself worth changing, there is a pretty good chance you eventually bring the same version of yourself into the next relationship and wonder why some of the same problems show up again.

Use this as a wake up call.

Not as punishment and not as proof you failed. Use it as an opportunity to take inventory of your life and decide what you want to keep, what needs to change and what you don’t want to carry forward anymore. That’s actually how/why I started this sub; I was laying in bed, basking in my own misery, feeling sorry for myself, when I got angry (at myself), and decided tomorrow I was going to take action and set a path to my own personal recovery.

So if you need help figuring that out, get it.

  • Therapy isn’t weakness.
  • Antidepressants aren’t weakness.
  • Being overwhelmed isn’t weakness.
  • Sharing your feelings isn’t weakness.
  • Admitting you don’t know all the answers isn’t weakness.

Sometimes you need somebody outside of your own head who can help you separate what actually happened from what fear, anger and grief are telling you happened.

There’s no prize for going through one of the hardest periods of your life without help.

Another thing I’ve learned over the years is how much damage comes from needing to be right. You see it in relationships and you see it here on Reddit. People stop listening to understand and start listening for the next thing they can argue with. Every disagreement becomes something that has to be won.

I’ve actually had to ban a few people here recently because they became so focused on proving their point that they stopped listening altogether, including when they were asked to follow the rules of the group.

That’s one of the reasons this place is heavily moderated. Guys often arrive here scared, angry, embarrassed, depressed or completely lost. The goal should be helping each other through that, not winning internet arguments.

Always remember the human.

That lesson applies to divorce too. You don’t need to answer every accusation, correct every detail or respond to every angry message. Sometimes there is nothing useful left to say. Sometimes listening is more important than defending yourself, and sometimes understanding what someone is saying doesn’t require agreeing with it.

We generally encourage reconciliation here when there is something healthy left to reconcile and both people genuinely want to work on it. I still believe marriages are worth trying to save when both people are willing to do the work.

But you cannot reconcile by yourself.

At some point, if it becomes clear the marriage is ending, you have to stop trying to negotiate the relationship and start handling the divorce. Custody, property, money, schedules and legal agreements eventually become business.

That doesn’t mean you have to become cold or hostile. You can still be decent and fair. But not every financial decision or parenting disagreement needs to become another argument about everything that went wrong in the marriage.

The same thing applies to coparenting.

The better you learn to coparent, the easier your life is going to be in the long run, and more importantly, the easier your kids’ lives will be.

Good coparenting does not mean saying yes to everything. It doesn’t mean letting your ex walk over you or trying to buy peace. You can be cooperative and still have boundaries. You can disagree without making your children part of the disagreement.

Keep them out of the middle as much as you possibly can.

Your children aren’t your messengers. They aren’t your spies. They aren’t your therapist and they don’t need to hear every detail about why the marriage ended or who you think was responsible.

They will understand more as they get older. Let them get there without making them carry your divorce for you. And give yourself a break while you’re figuring all of this out.

You are going to make mistakes. You’ll probably send something you wish you hadn’t sent, react emotionally when you should have waited or look back a few years from now and realize you would handle something completely differently today. That’s growth.

Your kids don’t need you to handle every moment perfectly. They need stability, consistency and a dad who keeps showing up.

Take care of yourself too. It sounds basic because it is.

  • Sleep.
  • Eat reasonably well.
  • Exercise.
  • Keep your house in order.
  • Stay on top of work.
  • Go outside.
  • See friends.
  • Go to therapy.
  • Find hobbies again.
  • Spend time with your kids doing normal things that have absolutely nothing to do with the divorce.

And pay attention to the small wins.

Sometimes progress is getting through an entire day without checking what your ex is doing. Sometimes it’s not responding to the message that would have turned into a two-day argument. Sometimes it’s cleaning your house, going to the gym or making dinner instead of sitting on the couch thinking about everything you lost.

Sometimes it’s laughing with your kids and realizing you went a few hours without thinking about any of this at all.

Those things count.

I also think one mistake we make is trying too hard to get our old life back. In many cases, that life wasn’t working very well or we wouldn’t be here.

The goal doesn’t have to be becoming exactly who you were before the separation. Take the things from that life that were good. Learn from the things that weren’t. Leave behind the behaviors, relationships and habits that were hurting you and build something healthier from here.

And don’t rush to fill every empty space.

Being alone can be uncomfortable, especially when you’ve spent years or decades as part of a couple. Loneliness can make almost any attention feel like connection. Give yourself enough time to know the difference.

Your past is your past. You can’t rewrite it, but you can learn from it. Own what belongs to you, stop carrying what doesn’t, stand up for yourself where you need to and decide what kind of life you want to build from here.

Divorce takes away a lot of the life you thought you controlled. It also gives you a chance to decide what remains.

Your relationship with your kids. Your values. Your health. Your friendships. Your career. Your integrity. The way you treat other people. The way you allow other people to treat you. The father you choose to be and the person you become afterward.

Over 10 years later I can tell you there is a lot of life on the other side of this. My oldest are young adults now, I have another family, I wrote this on my phone laying in bed a with my youngest from a different partner after reading their bed time story. Your life isn’t over. It’s just a chapter you probably never expected to be writing.

And if someone hasn’t told you recently, you are important, needed and most importantly not alone.

You’ve got this!


r/DivorcedDads • • Jun 06 '25

Reflections After a Decade Modding DivorcedDads

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After over ten years of running this community, I wanted to share what I’ve learned. Ironically this place didn’t start from some mission of service. It started because I needed help. I was lost, trying to be a good dad while my world was falling apart. I made it hoping to find ways to share ideas with others. It was very dead for a long time. I’d share articles I found and hope others would comment or bring their own perspectives and findings. I stuck around, eventually others did too, and what grew from that has been messy, powerful, and worth it.

Over the years, I’ve read thousands of stories. Different faces, similar heartbreaks. And while every situation is unique, some patterns are hard to ignore. Here’s what I’ve learned, what I wish more dads knew when they walked in for the first time:

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1. Time is your best ally, and your worst enemy if you fight it

Everyone wants answers right away. Closure, resolution, peace. But divorce doesn’t work like that. It’s a process. It’s trading one set of problems for another. And it’s a long, messy, emotional one. You have to give it space. Once the decision is made, your job shifts from emotion to execution. You’re negotiating your future and your kids’ future. Don’t let anger wreck the foundation you’re trying to rebuild.

2. Most people are dealing with grief and a shattered identity

There’s often this idea: “If I just keep providing, maybe this can be fixed” or “How could they throw it all away?” or “They lied and I was a fool for not seeing it”

These reactions are common, and are painful. But they won’t move you forward. You can hate the way things ended and still hope the other parent finds their footing. Your kids are watching how you respond. When you are taking a higher road you’re modeling how to handle heartbreak with strength, not revenge. But don’t loose sight of yourself and self preservation along the way.

3. Divorce will teach you how little you control

The hardest part of moderating isn’t the trolls or the drama.

It’s the grief. The anger. The loneliness.

It’s reading story after story that echoes the same pain. I’ve gotten the late-night messages, the ones filled with anger, confusion, or quiet desperation. I’ve dealt with threats of self-harm, emotionally overloaded men, and people weaponizing the group to offload rage. I’ve seen what this does to men who feel like they’ve lost everything.

And yes, I care. But I’ve also had to learn where the line is between helping and carrying too much. Their pain is real, but it can’t become mine. That’s a lesson every one of us needs to learn, especially when you’re trying to show up for your kids and keep your own life on track.

There have been times I’ve stepped away because it got too heavy. That’s why I’m so grateful for the other mods. We’re in this together, and we’ve all carried the weight at different times.

If you’re here, lean in but don't look for an echo chamber. Ask questions. Share your story. Learn from others. Read and see what others have done and been through. Support each other. That’s where the real strength comes from. Not trying to save everyone, but choosing to grow alongside them. And if you are lost ask for help. We are only stronger together by sharing knowledge.

That’s the kind of kindness that lasts.

4. Patterns repeat, but growth is still possible

Every story’s different, but the truths stay the same:

  • Kids need stability more than they need court wins
  • "Winning” the divorce often means everyone looses
  • Court orders matter, but they don’t replace good communication
  • No one gets through this without scars, but healing happens if you put in the work
  • The faster you can both learn to work together the better you will be in the long run.
  • You'll have to make compromises and learning to do that isn't weakness or a fail. It's just being smart. Not every battle has to be fought or won.

I’ve seen men go from shattered to solid. It can take years. But it’s real.

5. This changed how I parent

I’ve got older kids now, and I’ve also got little ones from blending my new partner. The way I show up now is different. More patience. More presence. I’ve seen how easy it is to focus on the fight and forget the kid in the middle. I’ve moved kids away from friends. I’ve gotten truancy warnings for doing my best. I’ve driven across town before sunrise to hold a promise.

Stability early on matters more than you think. Build something that doesn’t require daily heroics. Think long game. Pick the battles that shape your kid’s tomorrow, not just your today.

6. This sub isn’t for everyone, and that’s okay

We stay close to the mission: how to be the best dad you can be during and after divorce. That means we don’t get into legal advice or tax law or should you get divorced or even into the drama. That’s not what this place is for.

We’re not professionals. We’re just guys who’ve been through it and stuck around to pull others out. The mod team has different takes, and that’s a good thing. We don’t always agree, but we agree on this: your kids still need you, you are important, and there’s still a future worth showing up for.

7. Work on yourself

Most divorces don’t happen because of one person. You’ve got to own your part. If you don’t work on your flaws, they’ll follow you into the next chapter. I’ve seen too many guys repeat the same mistakes in new relationships. The better man you become, the better dad and partner you’ll be, now or later.

I think what made me start this group originally was me laying in bed one night wallowing in self pity because I didn’t have all the answers and couldn’t stand the situation I was in. Frustrated and broken, I got mad (at myself) for not working on who I knew I could be.

The next day, I set a plan, acknowledge my faults and failure and set a plan. Work on myself and be the best version of myself step by step. I’m by no means perfect but I’m also not languishing in anger or despair or even self-gratitude. You have to be honest with yourself of who you are. The only person you can control in all of this is yourself.

8. Money comes and goes

I’ve gone from running my own business with little worry of money to flipping thrift store books on Amazon just to have a little extra for my kids. That season passed, but it taught me how much can shift, and how you adapt matters more than what you lost. Take smart risks. Stay stable where you can. Know when to push and when to hold. Life is half planning, half chance. Be lucky and if you can’t do that work on being better.

9. You might end up in a new relationship

Blended families are hard. They can also be good. Don’t chase a new partner to fill a void, but don’t shut yourself off either. I’ve had relationships that didn’t work because the kids didn’t mesh. And now I’m with someone who brings a new kind of joy and challenge into my life. I’ve got more kids, and the love is just as real.

There are compromises. But there’s also beauty in second chances if you’ve done the work.

10. This isn’t about being perfect, it’s about being consistent

You’ll mess up. You’ll lose your temper, miss a school event, say the wrong thing. Get back on track. Show up again. Your kid doesn’t need a flawless dad. They need one who’s there, who listens, and who keeps trying. That’s enough. More than enough.

11. You think divorce is hard on you, your kids didn’t choose any of this

They didn’t file the papers. They didn’t ask for their world to split in half. Don’t make them carry your baggage. Don’t make them choose sides. Give them space to be sad. Let them talk. Get them into therapy if they need it. Make it safe for them to love both parents. They need to know they’re loved, valued, and not forgotten in the chaos. Your job isn’t to win. It’s to guide.

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If you’re new here, welcome. If you’re in it deep, keep going. If you’ve come out the other side, share what helped.

This isn’t a magic fix. But it’s perspective. Hard-earned. Shared freely.

Thanks for being here. Keep building forward.

You’re not alone.


r/DivorcedDads • • 2m left

It’s moving day!!

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I gave up most everything in the divorce, including the house, in exchange for always having access to my kids with the most relaxed and flexible custody schedule one could ask for. (We co-parent well enough I suppose).

It’s taken some time and a lot of hard work but today I move back into a house. My new home! I can’t wait to build a space my kids and I can enjoy and create memories. Apartment life has been tough but things are looking up again!!

Keep your heads up dads, you never know when the pieces will fall into place.


r/DivorcedDads • • 1h ago

Divorcing with a newborn

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Hello, people.

First of all please forgive me as my English is not my main language. Because of that I needed to translate it. I am not a bot or an AI.

I'm writing this because of a serious problem I'm facing.

My wife (37F) and I (37M) got married a year ago. It was the second marriage for both of us. Because of her age and having seen similar situations in her family, my wife was worried about her declining ovarian reserve and the possibility of never having children. She was undergoing egg freezing treatment at a hospital. After we got married, I was also asked to provide a semen sample as part of the procedure.

However, I told her that I thought it was too early in our marriage to have a child. We still needed time to get to know each other as a married couple. Unfortunately, I assumed that pregnancy was almost impossible because she was undergoing egg freezing treatment, so we had unprotected sex and then found out she was pregnant.

I say unfortunately because exactly what I had feared happened: we found out we were having a baby before we had even had the chance to get to know each other as a married couple. And just as I had feared, it became clear after the baby was born that our marriage was heading toward divorce.

Our problems started during the pregnancy. Let me tell you what my wife is like. She is extremely particular about cleanliness, controlling, and tends to put pressure on me. For example, even when I eat with my mouth closed, she tells me that I'm making noises that bother her and that I need to eat more slowly. Yet she does exactly the same thing herself and eats noisily. Or she tells me that I have body odor and need to shower more often, even though she sometimes has bad breath herself.

If I play video games or watch a movie at even a low volume, she makes an issue out of it. If I have a beer while cooking at home, or even if I drink just one beer a day, she calls me an alcoholic. I am always the one who cooks and washes the dishes, even after coming home from work.

I have never criticized her or made her feel judged at home. Whatever she wants to do or whatever decision she makes, I tell her, "Okay, if that works for you, it's fine with me." But when I express the same attitude toward something I want to do, she puts all kinds of obstacles in my way.

The arguments that started during the pregnancy because of these issues never got any better after the baby was born. On the day our baby was born, I put everything aside and let go of all the resentment because I wanted us to move forward and make things better.

My wife's mother moved in with us from their home in another city immediately after the birth to help take care of the baby. They started sleeping and waking up in the room where the baby was, while I was expected to go to another room. Of course, this may have been because my wife and I were not close at that point.

I began sleeping and waking up in the other room, going back and forth to the room where they were just to see my baby. But I often found my mother-in-law putting the baby to sleep or burping them. I repeatedly told them that these were things I needed to be doing as the father. Of course, they sometimes let me do these things too. But I'm not with them all the time, and they don't call me in to help. They don't wake me up at night either. I should be the one actively involved in caring for my baby, but instead, my mother-in-law is taking that role.

I have brought this up over and over again. Nothing has changed.

Two days ago, I told my wife, "I have a photo of myself at five months old. I'm naked after a bath, and I look really cute. Our baby looks so much like me in that photo. Wouldn't it be lovely to take a similar photo of our baby and keep it as a memory?"

My wife said, "No. Absolutely not. You cannot do something like that. You cannot violate our child's privacy."

I told her, "I'm tired of having to ask for your permission for everything."

When I want to do something for my baby, I don't want to have to think about whether I'll get her approval. What I suggested seemed perfectly reasonable to me. If our child grows up and feels differently about the photo, we can delete it. But if they feel the same way I do and think, "It's lovely to have a photo like that," then we won't have to regret not taking one in the first place.

I couldn't get any of this across to my wife.

Now she has told me that once the baby is 40 days old, she plans to leave with the baby and go to her mother's home in another city. She says this is necessary because she won't be able to take care of the baby alone while I'm at work.

I told her, "I can take time off work. We can continue taking care of the baby together for a while." She refused.

Given that our marriage has already been filled with constant arguments and that we've grown so distant from each other, I told her that if she was also going to take my baby away from me, there would be no point in continuing this marriage. I said we should close down our shared home and each move into separate places.

She agreed.

But the following day, I told her, "Look, we're making a huge mistake. Our baby is only one month old, and we're hurting them by separating at this stage. Our baby needs me, and I need to be there as they grow up. We shouldn't do this."

She refused to reconsider. She said, "I suggested couples therapy a long time ago, and you refused."

That's true. At the time, I didn't want to go because I felt that her controlling behavior was the problem. I told her she could go to therapy on her own if she wanted to. But now I've told her that I'm willing to go, that if it's what we need for our baby and it could help save our marriage, then let's do it.

Now she says it's too late.

At this very moment, she and her mother are packing up her belongings. They're going to leave. My wife's father is strongly against this and says he will talk to her. But no matter what I've said to my wife, she hasn't taken any of it into consideration, and she's still packing her suitcases.

She is going to take my baby with her. First, they will stay with her family, and then she will return to our city, move into a separate home, and divorce me.

I don't know how to fix this.

All I want is to be there for my baby as they grow up. That's my only concern. I want to save this marriage so I can be present in my child's life, but I feel completely powerless.

What would you advise me to do?


r/DivorcedDads • • 14h ago

Good novel for us

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I'm almost through 'Independence Day' by Richard Ford. It's relevant in a lot of ways for I think where we are in things, the narrator Frank Bascombe, is essentially out of his kids life post divorce and wants badly to be back in, but isn't really sure how to do it. The book was very critically acclaimed at the time and it takes place in the late 80s so some of the themes are a little dated, but I've enjoyed it immensely, and I think that one of the real themes he hits on hard is what he calls a "existence period". I think it sums up a lot of where we are as divorced guys with kids. We don't really know exactly where we fit in a lot of the time, but what is known is that we are hurting and we're looking for answers and the truth is our kids are hurting too. There's only one answer as far as I can tell and that's love ourselves and love them as best we know how.


r/DivorcedDads • • 1d ago

Dogs maybe the answer.

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After almost 4 years, I finally have my dog back.

I lost her in the divorce. She spent 18 months on a farm after my ex rehomed her because I couldn’t have her in a rental. She wanted the dog, then didn’t. Kind of like me. 😆

But I finally bought my own place, and now she’s home.

Sure, she’s destroyed my yard and only eats the ridiculously expensive premium dog food. But when I collapse on the couch after a rough day and she plops down beside me, all is right with the world.

She’s given my kids a companion and playmate, and she’s given me a confidant and friend.

I didn’t realize how lonely I was until I got her back. Now I understand what was missing.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my kids. I have them full-time. But when they’re bickering over Needoh trades gone bad, I look at the dog, roll my eyes, and she gets it. 😂

So, divorced dads, if you’re struggling with loneliness or depression, maybe a dog, cat, snake, or whatever animal speaks to you might help.

There’s something special about having someone who’s always happy to see you and will quietly sit beside you while you unravel.

Sometimes, that’s all you need.

Stay strong fellas!


r/DivorcedDads • • 23h ago

Who is being unreasonable

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10 year marriage, 13 years together, 4 and 6 year old kids. Wife told me two months ago she wanted a divorce and has been mostly cold since while saying she wants to keep things amicable. We were in the "two ships passing in the night" phase where we would interact for a few hours in the afternoon after work with each other and the kids and then she would go to bed early and i would stay up late. We would have sex maybe once or twice a week and watch a movie or TV every night for an hour. We were both unhappy but I figured it was just the stress of kids, work, and life but she reached a point where she feels living together is intolerable. She makes 130k and I make 80k but I also have family contributions that were at least 1,500 a month and often more to cover gaps. She handled finances, cooking/meal planning, scheduling while I did cleaning, dishes, laundry, yardwork (mostly mowing and some weeding/leaf raking but occasional large projects like removing rows of bushes and planting tree in their place), and I WFH 2 days a week while watching the kids the whole day. I also handled most wake ups and night issues and have been involved in childcare the entire time- making crafts, taking them on excursions to the zoo/aquarium/events, feeding, bathing, ect.

She offered non-negotiable terms in exchange for moving closer to my family in North Carolina from Vermont where we live now that I rejected. She wanted me to forgo any balancing of the 401ks (70k going from her to me) and give her almost 60k of my share of the home equity (600k) for her initial down payment on our house despite my family taking money from my future inheritance that exceeds that amount and giving it to home improvements/mortgage help in exchange for moving to Raleigh where I have family and she doesn't which is reverse of our current situation. As soon as I rejected her deal she got even colder and said we should only communicate with a family app for people in abusive relationships and through lawyers. We had been nesting but now her family removed my access to their property where I would stay when I didn't have custody so she is setting them up to live with her parents on her days while I watch them at our family home on my days. All of this has been initiated by her and I feel we are inevitably going to court and will have to deal with the large expenses there since she feels so wronged by me and refuses to acknowledge my rights to balance the finances accusing me of trying to take her for everything she's worth.

Is there a way to de-escalate things without giving up everything and accepting her perception of the relationship? Why is she so aggressive and cold? I understand that she thinks she did everything to save the marriage before this but we were both struggling and doing our best but she has become so antagonistic and seems to think I should just acquiesce to her terms on everything. Why should I give up my rights/entitlements just because she feels the failure of the marriage is on me?


r/DivorcedDads • • 1d ago

What I Did Not Know

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I did not know how to save you
from something you would not name.

I knew there were nights
when you disappeared without leaving,
when the house went quiet
but you stayed awake until three,
lit by a television
that asked nothing of you.

You told me you did not need my help.
You told me you did not want it.

And I believed you.

I thought that was what equality meant:
to trust the person beside you
when she said,
I can handle this.

Maybe I was wrong.

Maybe love sometimes means
not believing the person you love
when everything around her
is saying otherwise.

But I was tired too.

More tired than I ever let you see.

Before anyone woke,
I was already awake,
making sure the house still worked,
that the bills were paid,
that the numbers balanced,
that there was food and heat
and some kind of steady ground
beneath all of us.

And at night,
after baths and books
and getting the children into bed,
there was not much of me left.

You saw the father they ran to.
You saw the closeness.
You saw their laughter with me.

I do not think you saw
how much work came before it.

Or maybe you did,
and somewhere in the darkness
you began to resent me for it.

Now the marriage is gone,
but somehow we are still fighting
over what it means to love our children.

I think love is sometimes saying no.

It is bedtime.
It is homework.
It is brushing your teeth
even when you do not feel like it.
It is keeping your word.
It is arriving when you said you would.

It is letting a child want something
without immediately placing it
in their hands.

It is giving them boundaries
strong enough to push against
until they discover
who they are.

You seem to want their friendship.

I want them to become adults
who can survive a world
that will not always be their friend.

And I am afraid.

I am afraid that every lesson
I try to build
is softened the moment
they cross from my house to yours.

I am afraid that they are learning
that promises are approximate,
that schedules belong to whoever
cares about them least,
that wanting something
is almost the same as receiving it.

I am afraid because they have so much
that there is almost nothing left
for them to long for.

And longing matters.

It teaches patience.
Effort.
Disappointment.
Gratitude.

I hate you sometimes.

I hate waiting for my children
when they should already be with me.

I hate watching my time with them
treated like something flexible,
something that can be borrowed
without asking.

I hate feeling that I am building
a wall one careful brick at a time
while someone follows behind me
pulling the bricks loose.

And beneath all that hatred
is something worse:

grief.

Because once,
I thought we were equals.

Once,
I thought we were building
the same home.

Once,
when you told me you were fine,
I believed you because I respected you.

I did not understand
what you were fighting.

And by the time I understood
how deep it had gone,
we were standing in courtrooms
trying to prove which of us
could provide the steadier ground.

I never wanted to win
that way.

I wanted you well.

I wanted two parents
our children could depend on.

I wanted them to have a mother
who could stand beside me
and say:

We are not here to make you happy
every moment.

We are here to help you become
someone capable of making
a life of your own.

That is still what I want.

Even through the anger.

Even through the resentment.

Even after everything
we did to each other
and everything we failed to see.

Because one day
our children will walk away from both of us.

And when they do,
I do not care whether
they remember me as the fun parent.

I want them to know
how to stand.

I want them to know
how to keep their word.

I want them to know
that love is not giving someone
everything they ask for.

Sometimes love is structure.

Sometimes love is sacrifice.

Sometimes love is waking up early
when nobody notices.

Sometimes love is saying no.

And sometimes love is admitting,
years too late,

I did not know
how to help you.


r/DivorcedDads • • 1d ago

Anyone else have an ex threaten Trespassing for playing in the street at drop off?

4 Upvotes

Little more nuanced than this, but I live almost an hour away and have to account for pretty severe traffic so sometimes I show up between 15 min early to right on time, I stay in my car on the road and wait for my time to start, and the. On drop offs I make sure my kid goes into her house as scheduled. He asked to go out and play with me longer and she has said yes for years. Other than a moment here or there to grab a ball or a toy from the lawn I stay in the street. I got remarried last month, and Today I got a letter from her lawyer saying I linger on her property and she will considering it trespassing if I continue.

I already forwarded the letter to my lawyer, but it’s crazy that she told her lawyer I spend 90 minutes on her property during one drop off.


r/DivorcedDads • • 1d ago

Mistakes were made…again

13 Upvotes

Well, in addition to spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer, exorbitant rent, and other financial chaos surviving the divorce process, I’m now back at the house with my ex and kids (I’m still sleeping at the apartment). Divorce is still going forward but we’ve been intimate and even going out. I’m so drained by months of conflict I don’t even care how wrong this is. That said, I know this won’t end well and add this to a long list of mistakes I’ve made during this process. I really need to get my act together. Such an idiot.


r/DivorcedDads • • 1d ago

DCFC album as a meditation on divorce, depression, and grief

9 Upvotes

One of my favorite bands is Death Cab for Cutie. They’ve been around for a long time, but during my divorce (started in early 2022), Ben Gibbard's music and lyrics took on deep levels of meaning for me. His lyrics explore heartbreak, disconnection, and sadness with a combination of poetry, irony, and clever wordplay that is (in my opinion) unmatched by any other artist.

The band released a new album, I Built You a Tower earlier this year. Over the year prior to its release, Gibbard was going through his second divorce, and the album is a meditation on grief, sorrow, and how we compartmentalize overwhelming emotions to keep moving forward in life. The album is a masterclass on the feelings and thoughts of divorce, and I wanted to share it with you guys. Every track on this album has resonated with me in some way as a divorced dad, and I highly recommend listening to them all but to keep it short, I’ll hit just 4-5 that are especially applicable:

  • Full of Stars: A soft, quiet title track, where basically every lyric is right out of all our hearts here. The chorus (“All I need is for you to be kind, but it seems it’s rarely worth your time”) is excellent and works as (i) a plea to a former partner, (ii) a reminder to be kind to our former partners, (iii) an exhortation to be kind to ourselves. While perhaps not universal, the second verse hit me like a ton of bricks:

I tried to mend these broken fences
You claimed I’d built a wall
That I'd obstructed all your exits
As if my aim all along
Was to keep you somewhere
You no longer wished to be

  • Punching the Flowers: Sharp, abrasively catchy rock song about watching a partner struggle with conflict, communication, and self-destructive patterns. Lots of great lyrics here (“And she tried to make him feel better, but he didn’t wanna feel better”), but the most apt one is where Ben Gibbard describes the second-guessing that comes at the end of a failed relationship:

Words were sharpened like axes
And he swung them blindly around
With no regard for the dangers
And slashed her to the ground
And I’m not sure which is worse;
If God laughs or he doesn’t
And I’m not sure which is worse;
If it was love or it wasn’t

  • Pep Talk: My personal favorite song on the album, which deals with depression, thoughts of harm, and how efforts to "get better" all seem so futile during divorce. I especially relate to the lyrics indicating a need for a support system, because of the inevitable tendency to escalate things at times to try and force an end to the pain of divorce:

And now I find I'm waking up at sunrise, and just lying in bed
Giving myself a pep talk to survive the day lying ahead
But they make, they make no diffеrence
When all of thе colors blend into black
And if I raise the stakes and step out
Out on the ledge, you gotta pull me back

  • I Built You a Tower (a) and (b): There are two (very different) versions of this song on the records. The (a) version is more of a classic Death Cab “jangle rock” version, and lyrically it is about as perfect of a metaphor for divorce as you will ever find in a song. Gibbard writes about the need to compartmentalize, because otherwise thoughts of “her” invade every waking moment of your life:

I needed you contained
You’d run circles ‘round
Circles ‘round my brain
Until I couldn’t think
Until I couldn’t think of anyone else

The final verse expresses the feeling that I am sure you’ve all had has thought a million times over, especially those of you who, like me, have to interact with your ex-wife on an all-too-frequent basis.

And there are days when I wish you’d just become
An acquaintance or a time-to-time someone

The (b) version of this song closes out the album, and is a harsher, more cathartic expression of (mostly) the same lyrics. Neither version is better—they’re two sides of the same thought-coin; one where you’re diplomatic and cordial like a good co-parent has to be, and one where you’re screaming and yelling because being a good co-parent is just really, really difficult.

  • Stone Over Water: This song should be like the "National Anthem of Going Through Divorce." Brain fog, telling people you’re fine (when you’re not), the combination of shame and anger, watching your future evaporate, and (ultimately) having to choose between moving forward or “screaming and shouting.”

I'm trying to hold it together, I'm trying to sleep through the night
I've got my windows open to the weather, and I keep telling my friends I'm alright
Yeah, I'm trying to hold it together, trying to take the first step
Into the arms of wherever, whenever

___________________

The other tunes on this album all deal in one way with divorce, grief, or something similar, and I’m only omitting descriptions here because it’s Reddit and you all don’t want to read a novel. But they are all highly, highly recommended.


r/DivorcedDads • • 2d ago

I thought I was tougher then this..

11 Upvotes

Hi all,

I've been lurking here since my divorce started, my STBX and I have been rocky for last few years, we would argue and then not talk for sometimes a month or more at the time; we have fundamental differences, we are vastly two different people and I think that when we hit our 30s it just became more evident. We did have 2 beautiful kids, now 9yr and 5yr and she had hers family support this summer, while I relegated myself in this little office-turned-spare bedroom since March of this year. I decided in August to go and visit my family (they live oversees) for 3 weeks. When I came home, I was hoping we were going to sit down and face that its not going and just do whats best and fair for the kids.

Oh boy was I wrong, while I was gone she secured a lease, and few days after my arrival just dropped on me "we are leaving this weekend, I have an apartment and my lawyer will be in touch". I got left alone in our family house. I was soo shocked. I am someone who takes massive pride in being a father. I decided to file first, because I had a feeling that this is going to drag and she would just get increasingly harder to work around. When I asked her why are you leaving, I am already in the guest room it's your house as much as it's mine, she told me that since I did not want to leave, someone had to.

First 2 weeks, we did 50/50, then week 3, she says she does not get enough time with the kids. Then week 3 I get a call from CPS, we need to talk. I go and meet with them and they just informed me about an allegation regarding my kid, but that they closed it because they did not find anything.

When the CPS lady read the allegation to me, I've never felt more dumbfounded and just baffled at the amount of dishonesty coming from someone I just spent 12yrs of marriage. I recorded the whole conversation and got an email from CPS supervisor saying that they could not find anything and that the case was closed. I desperately want face my STBX and just understand why such a lie (I mean i get it she prob. does not want 50/50 and this was a silver bullet), but my lawyer advised me to have this as something we can use in the proceedings. In the meantime, she has restricted me from seeing my kids to almost 2 hrs or 8 hrs a week, because of my recent allegation, so we are now filing for exparte temporary custody order just so I can see my kids and they can sleep in their beds while divorce is happening.

It's this feeling of just time going by and you see your kids less and less and it went from being there all the time to now empty rooms and it seems like it's a new standard, and I am hopeful that this motion corrects that because I miss the kids and when I see them the hugs are tighter and tighter like they know something i don't...like they know it could be a while before I see them again..

Thank you fro reading this. This is so hard guys, I have not slept more then 6 hours in last 2 months


r/DivorcedDads • • 2d ago

Why Does it still hurt?

2 Upvotes

Ive been separated for 7 months now no paperwork started. I've been seeing someone for 2 months now and the whole separation I was telling my ex to go find someone to talk to, to flirt with, to confide in.

2 weeks ago my best friend (he lives far away now) sends me a message saying how pumped he was to get some nudes and videos from my ex. "Bro when you two get back together we can have that wife swap we talked about."

Find out more that this whole time shes been talking and sending videos and pictures to randoms on sex subreddits, Instagram (with our kids on her profile and home address), WhatsApp, Telegram you name it. Shes been doing this for months!

I was so badly hurt from her lying about this and the fact that it was my ex best friend who informed me in the most messed up way.

I wish she wouldve told me she was talking to guys before this. Less than a week later my mom died of stage 4 lung cancer. And couple days before my sister whos my closest person we went no contact.

I feel I lost everything in that week. I tried talking to my current GF about it but thats also a strange thing to vent about.

Because my loss (mom) I have been spending more time at my house (with my kids) and so that means more time around her. She says shes deleted all the "talks" all her socials are disabled for a bit. She has 2 guys she's still talking too. One on WhatsApp and one on Telegram.

I wanted this for her.

Why am I still hurt each tlme I hear her phone ping. I chose to leave her why am I so damn sad and depressed? I chose this? My gf is obsessed with me! Why do I feel like I am going to ruin it for us because of this past week?


r/DivorcedDads • • 3d ago

Feeling Like I’m Missing Out on Precious Moments With My Kids

11 Upvotes

I know the situation could be worse, and I’m grateful that I have my children. I’ve been separated from my ex for almost 20 months, and we’re still trying to figure out a custody arrangement. Things are currently stalled in court.

I can still remember taking my oldest, who was around five at the time, to all these trick-or-treat events right before my youngest was born. It was such an amazing feeling to experience those moments with my child.

Last year, we only made it to a few events because I don’t have Saturdays with the kids. This year, we only made it to one. I don’t know why, but it really hits hard, especially with my oldest turning seven.

I feel like I’ve missed out on so many things over the last few years. I’m grateful that I get to see my children more during the week, but between my oldest’s birthday, ongoing family issues, and nursing school, I feel like I’m missing out on precious moments with them.

I’m supposed to finish nursing school in May, so there is light at the end of the tunnel. I’ll pick them up tomorrow, and next week I’ll have four nights and three days with them, including one full day together.

I know I should focus on the time I do have with them, and I truly am grateful for it. I just have moments when it hurts knowing how quickly they’re growing up and feeling like I’m missing out on things I’ll never get back.

Has anyone else experienced this feeling while going through a separation or custody situation? How do you cope with feeling like time is slipping away while you’re trying to get your life back on track?


r/DivorcedDads • • 3d ago

Any of yall have a issue where she will not let you go.

6 Upvotes

Been with my STBX for 17 years since I was 19. I'll make this short and sweet.. she is abusive verbally, emotionally, physically.... all the great things. All started 5 years and never got better just worse so i finally called it and left after she went to jail for assaulting me 6 months ago.

But she wont let me see my kid makes me come to the house when she is there. and everytime I meantion paper work she goes absolutely crazy busting in my apartment. She is blocked by my entire family. Co workers. She is just absolutely mental.

Am I just stuck dealing with this. Like I have no peace. Just want to be with my daughter on a normal schedule.

Feel like the waiting period when papers are filed"again" its just going to volatile for my daughter and for me.

I work 24hr shifts and she is SAHM. I would rather not throw her in jail for her crazy stuff. And I dont want to pull my daughter away because they have became super close since I have been " the bad guy"


r/DivorcedDads • • 5d ago

Did you find peace in divorce? Are you glad you left?

16 Upvotes

Gentlemen, as I review the loose journal I have kept over the past year I see the same highs and lows in my marriage. On my side I see consistent effort with my wife. On hers I see spurts of interest in me that I can't understand or predict. It seems like only hormones make her interested in me. Detailed in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dad/s/BZVqgp4n2m

In the past year I've told her I was suicidal and her reaction was ignore it. Detailed in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dad/s/VlfKbzmpII

I've asked for marraige counseling that first she said we didn't need. Then she kept scheduling things over it. Then when we went once she managed to make it all about how terrible I am. When I'm the one who asked for it and she didnt think we needed it, how could I be so terrible.

We've had some very short highs that I will ride out through the long lows.

But I'm tired of chasing her and being put off. I'm tired of all the unreciprocated effort. It feels like a slow death of the marriage.

I think I would rather be alone with a chance of someone coming along that will really desire me, rather than knowing this will only get worse.

But as you can guess, I'd hate to lose that time with the kids.

​​Can I find peace in the divorce?


r/DivorcedDads • • 6d ago

Help with wording, please.

5 Upvotes

Hey guys, I need help wording a request to the STBX.

She is moving out tomorrow and will have friends from work helping. One of them might be a romantic partner. I don't want to be here or to see that. I don't want my boys to see me crying while it happens.

She'll need the boys here so she can figure out which stuff goes and which stays. I can be right down the street until they're done.

How do I coordinate this with the STBX? We're on business casual terms right now and can be civil.

Thanks for the advice.


r/DivorcedDads • • 6d ago

How to deal with false accusations.

8 Upvotes

Long story short, marriage has always been rocky and to be honest she really treated me poorly. I don’t have time to go into details but I was not a priority, going out was always more important for her, coming home late and usually drunk, always dumping child responsibilities on me ect.. Been separated for 7 months and I’m sleeping downstairs. but today she confirmed the “end goal” is to divorce me. I ended up messing up and it was the straw that broke the camels back. I own that, I’m regretful and completely apologetic.
Today we were having a conversation about the future, what it looks like, custody, everything. But she started accusing me of things that are just blatantly not true and anytime I defended myself it just gets shot down. “You never loved me” “I know for a fact you messed around before”(I didn’t) “you gaslight” “you’re manipulative” “the kids treat me terribly because of you” “this marriage ending is your fault”

How do you guys deal with this? I worry my kids will over hear something from her side of the family and it be completely false and them being resentful or going non contact.


r/DivorcedDads • • 6d ago

How do you deal with the guilt of leaving?

7 Upvotes

I've pretty much made up my mind at this point, after 14 years I need out. We married young due to her being pregnant, we've had a normal/goodish marriage the last 14 years, but I haven't been in love with her for the last 5. And for the last year or so it's been pretty obvious how unhappy i am. Therapy is helping me process a lot of this and understand what would likely actually make me happy. She refuses to go to therapy to work on herself and I haven't asked, but I know the answer would be no if I asked her to go to couples therapy. And at this point I'm done trying to save it.

My only real concern is my two teenage kids. They are old enough to understand that things aren't always great between me and their mother, but I would still be the one leaving. I'm giving up on my relationship with their mom, but I still plan to be very much part of their life and don't expect any issues with a 50/50 split. Im leaving in a way that keeps them in the house, so that is good and I feel fortunate that it is an option. I'll be getting a place in the same town, with enough bedrooms that they will each have their own room and I'll still be able to be present for all the school stuff.

But I'm making this decision for me, to help me. I know it will negatively affect them, and I'm struggling to be okay with that. My marriage isn't awful, my wife isn't abusive or crazy, we still have sex, I'm just really unhappy and unappreciated. I've been really toughing it out the last year or so, but I can't make it much longer.

How do you deal with the guilt of choosing to improve things for you knowing it will hurt the kids?


r/DivorcedDads • • 7d ago

Estranged teenage daughter: how do you handle it?

13 Upvotes

My teenage daughter is living full-time with her mother right now because of reasons I’m not still 100% sure on. We’ve tried to do family therapy and I’ve tried to talk to my daughter about the divorce and also give her her space while trying to connect with her over her interests, such as music. Family therapy has been useless because she doesn’t want to participate and the family therapist didn’t do anything to actually dive into the issues. She’s OK going with her mom, but doesn’t want to do anything with me.

I can’t get anything from this kid and she is just outright ignoring me on any attempt I make to reach out. I’ve seen her maybe five times in the last three months because her mom controls access to her and then my daughter just doesn’t respond to my texts or my IG messages. I try not to send too many but I check in every week or so just to let her know that I’m thinking of her, but it’s now getting to the point where she’s lying to get out of hanging out with me.

I asked if she wanted to do lunch last week, and while she originally said yes, she then told me 30 minutes later that never mind she’s tired. I was a little taken back but didn’t push too much and then it turns out she lied to me 100% about that because she had to go to a funeral out of town. I don’t understand why she lied about it, but I didn’t get upset or angry at her.

I don’t know what to do anymore because she is cutting me out of her life at this point, and I don’t know what’s going on. Her mom seems to know what the issue is, but she won’t tell me. Her mom won’t help at all in the situation and I’m pretty confident that there’s been some parental alienation going on, but I don’t know how to overcome that if I never get to see her.

I don’t know how to prove that I just want what’s best for her and that I do love her if she won’t even respond to texts about her being sick or lying to me about funerals.

How do you guys have been through this handle this? How am I supposed to reconnect with her if I’m being shut out? i’ve only got a few years left until she’s 18 and I don’t wanna miss any more of her life. I’m 100% willing to take ownership of mistakes I’ve made in the past but I’m not going to just continue throwing things out to her that might be issues and then have her say “yes you suck for that but that’s not the issue. “ because that’s something she would 100% do.


r/DivorcedDads • • 7d ago

Community Topic: Has Separation/Divorce made you a better dad?

8 Upvotes

Sometimes it takes a wake-up call to remind us of our responsibilities. It's easy to sire children but something else to raise them.

  • What are some changes pre & post separation that has changed your parenting style?
  • What has been the hardest and what has been easier?
  • If you had to give someone new to all of this a single tip what would it be?
  • How have you coped with all the different ages or parenting?
  • If you wanted to ask someone something about their experience what would it be?

r/DivorcedDads • • 8d ago

How do I cope ?

14 Upvotes

I know similar questions have been posted many times, maybe it’s just cathartic to make my own posting. How do I cope with an unwanted divorce? We’ve been married for 15 years, together for 20, with three amazing little kids. To make a long story short, my wife told me a couple weeks ago we are getting divorced. She says she’s been unhappy for a while, and admits she should have been more open with how she was feeling. I would have loved to help her and us. She says she’s made up her mind and that’s that. No counseling, no talking, she’s very black-and-white and has basically flipped a switch on our relationship. Three months ago we were on vacation just the two of us, having lots of sex, she was writing me loving cards, etc. Now she has quickly found an apartment and is packing her stuff up. For now, she is sleeping in the guest room, barely talking to me. She is going through perimenopause, but says this is not hormonal. She owns her own stressful business, but says that’s not a cause of her unhappiness. She blames me for everything, and fails to see that the times we’ve argued are normal. She comes from a very cold family, and has always been quite cold and closed off. I do love her though, and I never thought this would happen to us. This feels painfully fast to me, she thinks it’s dragging on. I am desperate for us to work on things, but she says that’s not happening. No infidelity, abuse, addiction, financial problems, etc. This has not been a toxic household. She just is moving on I guess. I feel really lost. Like my entire future has been deleted. I’m having trouble coping with this. I still work out, see friends, eat healthy, etc. I am just so upset. Is anyone else going through this exact thing right now?


r/DivorcedDads • • 9d ago

Am I the only one that didn’t have child support or alimony to pay??

19 Upvotes

Seems like half the posts on here are more horror stories and not the good divorces. Ended up 50/50 with my kid and had no child support or alimony to pay. We are also super flexible with our schedule and trade days a lot when it is convenient and just make sure we each get 50/50 when we do switch days or weeks.


r/DivorcedDads • • 9d ago

3 more month and then alimony is done! What should I do with it?

18 Upvotes

3 more months and alimony is done on Jan 15th!

Like the title. Finalized Jan 2024. Was on hook for 3 years. Approximately $1k after tax a month alimony. Can’t wait to get a little pay raise!

Let’s play a fun game. What should I do with my first years worth of “free money” that I learned to live without successfully these past 3 years.

First thought is month one, new set of gently used p790 irons. I’ve also toyed w the idea of giving my kids a very exact allowance for a year. Each of them exactly half of the monthly alimony that she will no longer get from me. Tell them they can manage it however they deem fit and set them up custodial accounts.

Or I just do the responsible thing and save more. But F that. I’ve done that my whole life only to lose a bunch of it. Time for some fun…


r/DivorcedDads • • 9d ago

Are parenting and financials really separate issues in divorce?

3 Upvotes

In strictly legal terms, child parenting/custody and financial matters are discussed/negotiated separately. But are they really? I have a tentative agreement where shared parenting is being offered (it’s not automatic/long story) but really only because I’m not seeking what’s legally entitled to me financially. None of this is in writing of course but that’s the unspoken agreement. I’d be curious to know if other people have seen their ex change their tune on parenting/custody when they’re facing a large (and legal) payout to the other person.