Izotope RX12 Standard vs Advanced?

[u/adamlid]

I'm working mainly on short films and just starting to get my first few paid projects. The ball is finally rolling in the right direction, and I've saved up a bit of money for some plug-ins.

I have about £800 total, have access to EDU discounts, and I have already purchased Dehumaniser 2 and have all the Pro Tools stock studio plug-ins (Not Pro).

I'm in between choosing iZotope RX 12 Advanced or Standard for the dialogue side of things. I've considered Accentize DxRevive, but with my budget, I feel that I'd get a lot more from RX12 than DxRevive at this moment in time.

My main issue now is, choosing wether to get Standard or Advanced and what the main beneifts would be. Any help on this or even any other recommendations for plug-ins would be very much appreciated. TIA

[u/Owl-Madness]

I do dialogue and I couldn’t live without RX advanced. That said, I also couldn’t live without auto align post which you didn’t mention. If I had to get 2 plugins/softwares it would be these two. 

Ps: why RX Advanced: it has de-rustle which I use not only for rustle but for everything else hundreds of times a day. Also Deconstruct is a highly underrated module and ambience match is super useful to create fill and clean things up inside the editor. 

[u/reusablerigbot → u/Owl-Madness]

+1 for Auto-Align and Hush Pro

[u/adamlid → u/reusablerigbot]

I've used Hush and loved it, only issue is that i'm mainly on Windows so not compatabile :(

[u/innapickl → u/Owl-Madness]

Do you need 12 for these?

[u/Owl-Madness → u/innapickl]

Nah. I’m still on 10 and I use it all day every day. On 11/12 you’ll get a better dialogue isolate module and a couple of others but no must haves IMO, especially if you have other tools that complement it.

[u/lo_vig]

I'm on RX 11 standard and I haven't found myself actually needing the advanced version yet. If I remember well and since you are on Pro Tools, with the advanced version you get a few audio suite modules that can improve your quality of life in big projects quite a lot, but I also think that you can achieve the same results also without it: it will be slower and more difficult, but whatever. A colleague told me that Spectralayers by Steinberg has improved a lot during the last few years, but I haven't tried it myself: it's not the industry standard, but it's significantly cheaper so it may be worth a try.

[u/adamlid → u/lo_vig]

Ahhh I didn't realise that the audio suite modules were limited to advanced. I used RX alot at the studios in university, and the audio suite side was super easy to use. Good to know.
I'll have a look at Spectralayers as well, thank you

[u/smaudio → u/adamlid]

The audio suite modules are in standard but you get a few extra with the advanced version. Those fee extra can be helpful but I fond the price difference insane for advanced with rx 12.

Rx advanced used to only be a few hundred more now it’s almost like 900 or so more.

[u/RevolutionaryGas936 → u/adamlid]

I just starting trying it out a few days ago and there's a fully functional 60 day free trial, it rocks.

[u/adamlid → u/RevolutionaryGas936]

for RX or Spectralayers?

[u/RevolutionaryGas936 → u/adamlid]

Spectralayers

[u/lo_vig → u/adamlid]

You are welcome. But to be precise: you get some modules too with the standard version, but they are more or less the kind of modules that are suitable both for music and films. With the advanced version you get some other modules that are specifically tailored for film post production

Edit: I saw just now another comment highlighting this

[u/divideconcept → u/lo_vig]

SpectraLayers -is- the new industry standard, currently replacing or complementing RX in every major studios. Because it does things that RX simply cannot do. It's being used in most major blockbusters these days.

[u/lo_vig → u/divideconcept]

Really? I'm sincerely interested. I recently bought Nuendo and I found it complete, fast and stable to the point that I'm not missing Pro Tools at all, so I'm looking with interest to what Steinberg is doing.

[u/innapickl → u/lo_vig]

One of us, one of us! (Nuendo users lol)

[u/lo_vig → u/innapickl]

LOL 😂😂😂 I admit that I have hated the Steinberg environment for a very long time (I tried Cubase 5 back then and simply hated it) but I've gradually changed my mind during the last year and now I can say that Nuendo is my favourite daw

[u/reusablerigbot]

Honestly RX has changed so little in the last 2-3 versions you’d be fine picking up 11 or 10 used somewhere if you can.

[u/L-ROX1972 → u/reusablerigbot]

I have to disagree re: stem separation (Music/Scene Rebalance), it’s definitely better (less artifacts) on 12 than 10.

[u/reusablerigbot → u/L-ROX1972]

Ah yeah I'm never in the music side of things. Or if I need to do separation on dialogue and music I jump over to Spectralayers.

[u/opiza]

I’d stick with standard for the spectral editor for fine work (removing nasties one by one). Then I’d get a good broadband denoiser like clear or dialogue extract 2. 

DxRevive is a restoration tool, not a denoiser (even though denoising is part of its restoration procedure, it is mainly a voice resynthesis tool and often changes the tone of dialogue which is not transparent). 

[u/gregorfriday]

I’d go standard with unless there’s a great sale (which happens) or you need advanced specifically

[u/Astronaut_HR_4547]

From a professional dialpgue editor - advanced is necessary for certain things. Hold off til black friday though if you can, they often have deals!

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[u/Owl-Madness → u/[deleted]]

Have to disagree there. Audiosuite is obviously faster but incomparably worse since you can’t use them spectrally which is the whole point of RX.

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[u/Owl-Madness → u/[deleted]]

I agree, focus on learning RX. I just think you shouldn’t use the modules in audiosuite for post, instead focus on learning the RX editor workflow.