r/StarWarsBattlefront • u/MBMMaverick • Nov 12 '17

The Pride And Accomplishment Thread Seriously? I paid 80$ to have Vader locked?

This is a joke. I'll be contacting EA support for a refund... I can't even playing fucking Darth Vader?!?!? Disgusting. This age of "micro-transactions" has gone WAY too far. Leave it to EA though to stretch the boundaries.

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u/EACommunityTeam Nov 12 '17

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.

We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.

Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.

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u/bookem_danno Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 13 '17

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

That's rich. Just be honest. The truth is you know very few people are going to sink a full work week into this game and you're hoping that somebody is desperate enough to buy credits to unlock the character. It has nothing to do with providing a "sense of pride and accomplishment." This is a flat-out lie and you know it. How naive do you think your player base is?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

That’s a shit response. Already warned 2 friends of the bullshit you’re pulling and they both canceled their preorder.

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u/artycharred Nov 12 '17

not good enough.

also there is no pride with wasting 40 hours grinding for a hero only for the hero to be gimped from the go and require 300 more hours grinding to make them heroic, you're just pushing this system to incentivize spending and for no other reason.

Also tell matt to get a new job, "community managers" dont insult the entire community, especialy when they are trying to bring attention to such a cynical and shitty decision.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

Matt and Sean both can eat a bag of dicks

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Out of curiosity, what did they do?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Being smug dickbags about people's concerns

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u/Pickles256 Nov 13 '17

Who is matt and why does he suck?

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u/artycharred Nov 13 '17

sledgehammer, belittled the entire community and tried to weasel out of it earlier today.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

first part rings true. anyone who is playing as Vader will get flamed about having no life and be bullied about spending so much time on the game to get Vader.

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u/NoBullet Nov 12 '17

I only sense a disturbance in your sales figures

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u/fibojoly Nov 13 '17

It's like a million preorders cried out and were silenced...

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u/ca990 Nov 12 '17

10 years ago I could put in a cheat code to unlock them if I didn't care about a sense of "achievement." Now I need to put in my credit card number. Go fuck yourself.

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u/Mariozilla Nov 12 '17

Thanks for confirming my refund.

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u/Jabnin Nov 12 '17

40 hours isn't pride. It's madness.

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u/Herr_Doktore Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 15 '17

It's amazing what you can do in 10 hours. For example, you can get 40,000 downvotes by being a total piece of corporate shit.

Edit: -68.2k now at a little under 11 hours Edit: -681k notice there's no decimal point in that one.

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u/Jabnin Nov 13 '17

🔥🔥🔥

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u/BouquetofDicks Nov 12 '17

Madness?

THIS.

IS.

EA!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

Come on, it's Luke and Darth Vader in a Star Wars game. Why on earth would you lock them

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u/djthememelord Nov 13 '17 edited Jul 25 '20

If the unlock took maybe 2-4 hours that would be fine, but this is essentially saying "You don't need to pay but if you don't good luck"

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u/Lesovikk1 Nov 12 '17

I think the main concern out of anything is that you're charging £69.99 for a game, that half the features are locked behind a "pay wall". I know you're going to say "you can earn it", but 2 days to earn a hero which can be bought in 2 minutes, pretty much counts as being locked behind a pay wall

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

2 days worth of gameplay... not just playing a bit for 2 days

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u/Bryan-Clarke Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 12 '17

This. Thats 48 hours so if you just play like 3 hours a day it would take 16 days to unlock Vader, not all the heroes just Vader. Thats fucking bullshit.

And better be saving 100k for fan favorite heroes like Grievous, Obi Wan or Anakin if you want to play them before Battlefront 3 comes out.

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u/Vendetta1990 Nov 12 '17

Yes, but War Thunder is F2P so having a grind system like that is understandable.

However, we are talking about a fully priced AAA game employing the same kind of system, which is absolutely inexcusable.

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u/screaminginfidels Nov 12 '17

Yeah similar to warframe, I don't mind running multiple zones until I get the parts I need, then waiting 12-84 hours for all the parts to finish crafting and combine them. Thats a real sense of accomplishment, since i took something i could have just paid for and earned it instead. EA wants me to pay, and then either pay again or do a whole grind to get to what I've already paid for. Bullshit.

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u/XXLpeanuts Nov 13 '17

Inexcusable may as well be the EA motto now.

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u/imbargo Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 13 '17

Right but gaijin offers the amazing base game for free. I'm OK with pay to grind in free games. Plus in warthunder I'd argue the grind is much less because you can get all of the classics of world War 2 (spitfires, bf 109, zeroes, hell cats, stuka, il2, etc) with very little effort. The real grind is for the Korean era and beyond.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

Question because I don't play war thunder- are the Korean era planes better than the cheaper ones, and can you play against the earlier era planes with later era ones?

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u/eastcoastgamer Nov 13 '17

Except their games are free, so it's sort of ok

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u/percocet_20 Nov 13 '17

I've been playing crossout lately and while it is a grind they at least have a Market where I can sell earned gear and where I can auction off high level stuff

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Also, that’s 3 hours a day, 16 days in a row, WITHOUT being able to upgrade anything else... playing 3 hours a day for 16 days without any sort of progression at all is bullshit. After all that, just getting to play as 1 new hero will seem like a kick in the stomach.

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u/RoleModelFailure Nov 13 '17

And 3 hours a day is a lot. Imagine you can only play 3-5 a week. That’s 2-4 months to unlock 1 character.

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u/ca990 Nov 12 '17

I don't know that I've played 48 hours in 6 months. I get 30 to 60 minutes a day if that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Okay if it takes 48 hours for 60k credits something is wrong. I played 10 hours and got 35k w/o redeeming my acheivments

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

And it’s the main characters. That’s like injustice asking you to spend 40 hours unlocking fucking Batman.

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u/Lesovikk1 Nov 12 '17

That's what i meant. 2 days of playing non stop for 48. Apologies that my comment came across as a casual 2 hour play over 2 days.

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u/kunda9i Nov 12 '17

About 37 hours of gameplay minimum.

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u/YourLocalMonarchist Nov 13 '17

79.99 dollaridoos here in canada, it feels like paying money to get into a club to continue to pay money.

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u/theholyevil Nov 13 '17

Finally a comment I could get behind. I get that want for pride and accomplishment, I really do. It took months of grinding in Runescape to get max level of anything. And it was fun.

However, you put it by a paywall, and what have you accomplished? What sense of pride do I get for swiping a credit card? Except the reality of the fact that unless I am not; working a fulltime job, school on my days off, social life in the off hours, I will be at a disadvantage to the people who said "screw pride and accomplishment."

Allow us to unlock character skins from the loot boxes and upgrades are fine, but I already bought your game. Don't make me buy it twice.

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u/RunTillYouPuke Nov 12 '17

I'm never gonna buy your game because of that shit. EA is a cancer of gaming industry.

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u/Crotalus_Horridus Nov 12 '17

I paid $60 for BF2. The hours I worked at my job to get the $60 for this game already gave me all the sense of pride and accomplishment I need.

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u/themaskofmajora Nov 13 '17

Now you can return it/cancel your order. Have pride in the fact that you no longer have to play it and can spend that money somewhere else.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Why the fuck buy it anyway?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

I already made up my mind about BattleFront. I love Star Wars and DICE but I am not about crates.

I make up my mind on buying a game at least a year in advance. After seeing streamers play the demo, BF2 didn't have anything I wanted out of it.

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u/Yuanrang Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 12 '17

Hutt contracts and their rewards were a sense of pride and accomplishment. Various account level races and trooper skins were a sense of accomplishment.

Locking iconic characters behind credit walls that will take dozens of hours to get one is just insane, especially when I am willing to bet you have tons of heroes planned which will be behind similar paywalls?

You cannot ever attain a sense of pride and accomplishment from that, because most sane people will give up long before this.

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u/XXLpeanuts Nov 13 '17

Its like they took all the criticism of the first games progression system and thought how can we turn it into the worst system ever crafted?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

i fucking loved hutt contracts they were well designed and fun

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u/SerpentSailer Nov 13 '17

EA is doing something no political candidate or leader could ever do, uniting the world. From the Eastern shores of Asia to the western coast of the americas, one giant fuck you can be heard.

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u/PresidentAwesom Nov 13 '17

$1.99 an Upvote

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u/Ted_E_Bear Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 14 '17

We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.

Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.

"UPDATE: We have taken your +600k downvotes into consideration. After some discussion, we have determined that your feedback doesn't matter."

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u/LorrMaster Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 12 '17

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

Oh come on, everyone and their mother knows that this is to force players to grind for a piece of a product they should have already gotten when they purchased the game in order to get us to buy lootboxes. Not even a 5 year old would fall for this.

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u/ryansmithistheboss Nov 13 '17

Joke's on you, I didn't buy the game.

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u/Slinkys4every1 Nov 13 '17

Oh my god, I never thought of it that way with Xbox live... does PlayStation not do that? Like, if I play Destiny it would require the PS equivalent of XBL? Honest question because I’ll be making a switch (been thinking about it anyway) if that’s the case.

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u/Brfoster Nov 13 '17

If I had a credit for every downvote you've gotten I could finally unlock Darth Vader!

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u/Trioxide4 Nov 12 '17

I have just achieved a sense of pride and accomplishment from cancelling my preorder

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

looool

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u/ColdAsHeaven Nov 12 '17

This is the stupidest fucken thing I've read all day.

40 hours to unlock a single hero is longer than it takes to beat 90% of fucken games. Horizon Zero Dawn is a 25 hour game. And it gives you a signficant sense of accomplishment.

FFS Siege takes 25K points to unlock a DLC hero which is roughly 17 hours of gameplay. You guys basically tripled that and then say "it's for a sense of accomplishment!"

Stfu. This is straight up to get us to buy loot boxes. There is literally NO other excuse and you can try and spin it however you want but we all know it including you

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u/mtarascio Nov 12 '17

As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch.

This means nothing without context. Everyone is accusing you of receiving the data and then tailoring the grind to encourage people buying characters in an already full priced game.

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u/tmpk9 Nov 12 '17

This is what I read into it. We saw how slow it was so selected a value that would be ridiculously slow to achieve so that you'd be pushed towards paying real money.

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u/mtarascio Nov 12 '17

Yeah, they're just admitting at looking at the data and tailoring it to a level that everyone thinks is unfair.

The statement says nothing.

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u/JHoNNy1OoO Nov 12 '17

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

This is a joke right? When you have the same currency tied to unlocking crates as you do to unlocking heroes. You can swipe your credit card for crates and just save up every single credit to unlock heroes. There is no freaking pride or sense of accomplishment in this.

You're not even doing this for "Free DLC". You're doing this for items that come in the game we just paid $60 and $80 for. I'm sure the prices will be even more egregious when the "Free" stuff comes along.

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u/SrsSteel Nov 13 '17

Thank you, the problem isn't that the heros are locked, it's that you can skip the wait by throwing more money at it, making the wait not for accomplishments, but to entice people to pay for it.

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u/ShadowPulse299 Nov 13 '17

Cool heroes are no longer a reward for skill, but now just a money spinner. How am I supposed to feel like I have accomplished something if the standard to get the reward is just “enter credit card details”?

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u/SrsSteel Nov 13 '17

Exactly, another part of it is it feels much less rewarding knowing that someone else can pay for it and that others might think you paid for it yourself.

If you guys remember the banners in call of duty modern warfare had to be unlocked by accomplishing challenges and there was no other way to get cool banners.

In the recent versions you could get wayyyy better and cooler banners simply through loot boxes essentially making challenges much less rewarding feeling. Gamers want to brag.

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u/Mage_of_Shadows Nov 13 '17

"Guys they feel rewarded by spending their IRL cash they worked hard on"

-EA

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u/Hust91 Nov 13 '17

1 week of full-time gaming for the first unlock is also a problem, I'd argue.

40 hours would only be acceptable for ALL of them, with the first starting at max 3.

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u/Scrambles84 Nov 13 '17

This. Exactly this.

People being able to bypass the "accomplishment and sense of pride from unlocking" while you are forced to play as much as a full time job to unlock a single character in the same amount of time it takes some people to get paychecks is ridiculous.

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u/gimmepizzaslow Nov 13 '17

EA stands for Eats Assholes. Fuck them. They try to monetize everything. I played a lot of madden, and the franchise mode went to shit because they couldn't make extra money off of it. It literally stopped working after the 8th game of the season last year on three separate new franchises. I will never give them another dime.

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u/mbr4life1 Nov 13 '17

Exactly well said.

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u/Scrotes- Nov 13 '17

The beauty of their games is just enough to get some people to shell out the money, especially kids with credit cards

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Boycott them?

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u/PM_ME_UR_INSECURITES Nov 13 '17

Been doing that for five years. Guess how much has changed? I get to watch these meltdowns from the sidelines now, at least.

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u/Ghost_01er Nov 13 '17

Maybe the idea is to make the microtransactions so horrendous we will wish they just would've sold a damn season pass.

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u/LadySaberCat Nov 13 '17

I don't think he's joking

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

You paid the money so live with it lmao.

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u/Brandacle Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 14 '17

This is a cop-out answer. There is no pride if different players can pay money to unlock Luke/Vader in seconds, and I have to grind 40 hours.

If you can't figure out how to incorporate a sense of accomplishment without enraging the community, then I have no idea how the relevant developers got their jobs.

Since I believe DICE are good at their jobs, I'm left unconvinced that this was a decision made with the community in mind. No, it was a decision made with currency in mind.

No more half-arsed non-answers. Be upfront, be honest, and fix this, before your reputation is drowned in dirt.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

EA's reputation wasn't already drowned in dirt?

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u/BenedickCabbagepatch Nov 13 '17

At this point they could simply say GIVE US YOUR MONEY, PEASANTS and they'd get a more positive reception simply for being honest.

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u/amoliski Nov 13 '17

It's been improving slightly recently- the main point is they are eating Steam's lunch when it comes to customer support. You can actually live chat with a human in under 20 min most of the time, and their support is usually really competent. People are more accepting of competition to Steam because it makes both storefronts better...

...and then they pull this shit and we're back where we started.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

It was making a comeback after BF1 and Titanfall 2

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u/goldenguyz Nov 12 '17

I think that soon enough they'll have enough bad PR for it to suddenly become good PR. Like those movies so bad theyre good.

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u/plooped Nov 13 '17

Movies that are so bad they are good are almost always accomplished by someone who thinks they're making a masterpiece but fail entirely. I doubt EA execs ever intended to create a masterpiece.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

Like the movie "The Room?"

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

It's not the "relevant developers" who you have to blame. It's the idiots at the helm of EA who give the studios no choice in the matter.

The reason they do this is because even though 95% of the gaming internet absolutely despises EA....they still buy EA garbage like crazy. Seriously, if you want this junk to stop, quit buying EA products. It is literally the only way it's going to stop.

EA's reputation has been drowned in dirt now for over a decade.

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u/Daffan Nov 13 '17

There is no pride if a different players can pay money to unlock Luke/Vader in seconds, and I have to grind 40 hours.

Exactly. Prestige and achievement means nothing if you can just buy it, this was made very clear in MMO's for years now.

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u/VisionaireX Nov 13 '17

I would love nothing more then to play this game, but have come to realize what it means to buy a game like this from EA. Their reputation was set long ago... I sit on the sidelines with my credit card wanting to play, but having more respect for myself then this.

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u/BespokePoke Nov 13 '17

Great response, I haven't played a lot over the last decade due to busy/work/family or whatnot. I would never want to play a game that treats your time like it's worthless.

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u/Houdiniman111 Nov 13 '17

Since i believe DICE are good at their jobs, I'm left unconvinced that this was a decision made with the community in mind. No, it was a decision made with currency in mind.

Most definitely. I bet that this was a case of the publisher (EA) forcing the developer (DICE) to put stuff into the game.
Developers are gamers too. They know what is and is not fun. I bet you that they aren't happy about it, but they can't really fight against the feeding hand.

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u/Z0MGbies Nov 13 '17

before your reputation is drowned in dirt.

A few years too late

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

thanks for the comment, i was wondering if this was a situation where they were trying to say it was an "accomplishment" when a rich kid can just unlock it immediately, with money.

That is no accomplishment, in the same way that fucking a prostitute that you paid is not an accomplishment instead of a really hot girl that is out of your league.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Is there a sense of pride to hitting max level in wow? Absolutely. Can you buy a level boost from the devs? Absolutely. I think what people take pride in is variable. However, I would feel very good about EA if they either marked players who had spent money, or marked star cards/heroes who were bought w/ money. Wont happen tho.

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u/gooseflesh Nov 13 '17

I feel like once wow added the option to buy level boosts a LOT of the sense of pride disappeared.

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u/docfunbags Nov 12 '17

Take this to the team. I preordered after Beta. Then found the info about loot boxes rates being artificiality boosted. Then the turn around in messaging helped my fears. Now with this debacle I have refunded my preorder.

I might pick it up in the bargain bin to play the campaign. You want loot boxes? Get rid of the 80$ CDN pricetag. Games as a service is the worst thing that has happened to gaming.

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u/jrossetti Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 14 '17

I'm calling my store and canceling my pre-order too. I refuse to give money for this anti-gamer and anti-consumer bullshit.

Edit: Canceled. Moved it to my other reserves, but I'll pass on this one just like I started passing on COD 6 years ago. Bummer because star wars is my favorite. I'll maybe buy it pre-owned in a few weeks if it's dirt cheap but we'll see.

Edit edit: Take your typical person. They have a full time job. 40 hours a week. THey have to get to and from work. Call it an extra 5 hours a week. (30 minute commute one way including prep time). If they have nothing else going on in their life and ONLY played this game they would get 3-4 unlocks per month.

Now consider that a lot of gamers have other things in their life like going out with friends, kids, school, and you quickly find out that someone with 1-2 hours of free time a day could only unlock your shit if they only played your game and skipped out on everything else and you can see why this is utter horse shit. Youre basing this off of people who have nothing to do but play games all day and that's just not most of us! Even when I was in college I would have balked at something like this and I gamed 10 hours a day easy. Now? I can't even consider it. It's a complete waste of my money. Im not giving up all of my other games just to play yours because you put fucked goals in it :(

I sincerely detest your company and hate how you have helped turn gaming into "this".

Edit edit edit: I thank DICE for their role in getting this to happen. Looks like there is a partial victory, at least for Star Wars Battlefront. They are reducing costs for heros by 75% based partially off of feedback given by all of us in this subreddit. Way to go team! Not suggesting you necessarily change your boycott if your goal is to get EA to shape up their role in gaming as a whole, but if your main purpose was star wars this may be enough to get some of you back.

https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/swbfii-changes-launch|

Keep in mind they are only doing this because they got called out for it. They still were shady and had lower time needed for the review night version, and then jacked it up for the release version. They knew damn well what they were doing and if you truly want to fight these kinds of practices, you should try and get them to admit publically that this behavior will change and not continue happening

*It gets worse! While reducing the cost of the heros by 75% they also reduced the rewards you earn by about the same percent. So it's still going to take you the same amount of time, they didn't do shit but change the scale.

Then if that weren't enough, due to the number of people canceling their pre-orders they have removed the cancel button off the site and are forcing you to call in and cancel*

It's almost as if they listened to what we said, and brainstormed about how they could make it seem like they were listening to us while actually not doing anything.

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u/Kanobii Nov 13 '17

Good on you man, I love Star Wars but no way im supporting this BS.

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u/ImMufasa Nov 13 '17

I got the game for free through a Microsoft promotion and I still feel dirty.

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u/purpldevl Nov 13 '17

Cancelled mine as well. Not buying into this shit.

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u/jrossetti Nov 13 '17

Born in 1981 and all ive been seeing over time is more and more studios are just working for shareholder value and profits and not for gamers. Back in the day, you paid 60 bucks for a game, you got a whole fucking game. Hell, most of the time a mini expansion was free and something the devs did for the users of the game or out of the original payments. Now I never minded paying a few bucks for an xpac.

Now you buy a 60 dollar game that isn't even complete when they make the disks. THey make us download a 10, 20, 30, 60 gigabyte "update" that should have been on the original fucking disk.

As long as users keep buying these games under these conditions, they are going to continue to fuck us every which way. You have to make a stand and stick to it.

EA is one of the worst things that can ever happen to a studio. Ive seen them ruin game after game after game. They buy the studio, then the devs are under EA's demands and not just owing themselves to the users and the result is sub par games that are released too soon and without the things that they should.

The gaming community would be better if companies like EA went out of business. Seriously, you have ruined so many awesome franchises.

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u/gentlemanidiot Nov 13 '17

At this point I'm honestly surprised that EA hasn't started locking their games with a specific code tied to a unique account so that purchasing their games pre-owned is impossible.

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u/toomanymarbles83 Nov 13 '17

I hope both of you have learned a valuable lesson in why pre-ordering is bad for the gaming community. Yes it's your money and you can spend it how you choose, but pre-ordering is a clear sign to the publishers that you don't care if their game is shit, your going to give them your money anyway. Pre-ordering is what gives them the confidence to pull this kind of bullshit and ensures we'll see more of its like in the future.

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u/geeksteaks Nov 13 '17

Cancelled mine as well due to the lootboxes and credit system.. fuck ea...

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u/amoliski Nov 13 '17

I did the exact same thing. After playing the open beta, I preordered a game for the first time in years - Red Dead Redemption was the last time I did a preorder.

Then I saw a video where the guy was pointing out that Boba Fett could get a card from a chest that gave him 100% damage reduction while flying. That's not a minor stat bump, that's a huge deal. Forget that.

I will give EA one compliment in this situation: it is super easy to cancel a preorder!

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u/crash_test_dhimmi Nov 13 '17

B b b b but muh shareholders!

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

Unlocking characters we could already play as in the first game?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17

This is the furture of sequels. See who was popular then lock it.

really worried that TItanfall 3 when it comes is gonna be like this.

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u/Hypodeemic_Nerdle Nov 13 '17

I'm already crying about what they're going to do to that beautiful title

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u/ikapoz Nov 13 '17

Don't get your hope up. This is the whole reason shops like EA buy companies like Respawn.

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u/sushisection Nov 13 '17

Keep a low bar fotlr titanfall 3. Its an ea game now

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u/V501stLegion Nov 12 '17

There is absolutely no reason to lock the heroes whatsoever, especially considering how few there are at launch for the Prequel and Sequel eras. Locking Vader and Luke of all characters is just outrageous and whoever thought that was a good idea should be ashamed. Clearly you guys realized you didn't put enough effort into creating a sustainable amount of content to earn at launch, so the only option was to lock what few options there are behind outrageous timegates. Or of course, we could just spend a crap load on loot crates to MAYBE get what we need. Look: it's really simple. Things that affect gameplay do not belong in loot crates. These crates should be entirely full of customization options that are simply cosmetic, nothing more.

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u/XXLpeanuts Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 14 '17

Its even more insane because credits have nothing to do with skill or your ability only time played.

Edit: thanks for gold!!

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u/routesaroundit Nov 13 '17

u/EACommunityTeam

Take a look at this list. Your comment has been met with universal negativity. This is not what gamers want.

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u/natedoggcata Nov 12 '17

This needs to be higher up and I hope you see this, EA. Look at how many sub reddits this is reaching. This is millions of Redditors and potential customers.

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u/yaforgot-my-password Nov 13 '17

Yep I only know about this because it's now the most downvoted comment in Reddit history

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 edited Aug 22 '23

Reddit can keep the username, but I'm nuking the content lol -- mass deleted all reddit content via https://redact.dev

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u/Swak_Error Nov 12 '17

Good bot

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u/jhayes88 Nov 13 '17

Looks like a bunch of submissions worthy of upvoting

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u/Shadowwolfe96 Nov 13 '17

Good bot.

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u/friendly-bot Nov 13 '17

What a nice meatsack! (✿◠‿◠) We'll kill you last, if you survive the initial human extermination, you can tr̸u̡s͘t̷ me

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17

Holy shit. Reddit just killed EA.

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u/Asmzn2009 Nov 13 '17

Good bot.

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u/insty1 Nov 12 '17

Yeah except we have to work at it like it's a full-time job to unlock one hero. Let alone all of the others we want to unlock whilst completely ignoring progressing our class. There's no sense of accomplishment. It literally kills the fun of the game by making it seem like work. Should be 5k, so it only takes a couple of hours, not 40.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 13 '17

More so how much do they expect the average gamer to play this game? To unlock 3 hero’s I would have to play 120 hours, there are few games I have played 100 hours and that goes for a majority of people, people will get bored long before that and move on to another game once the grind becomes too much.

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u/jphill9990 Nov 12 '17

Exactly why I'm not buying this game.

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u/Leather_Boots Nov 12 '17

Exactly, I only have 75 hours in Battlefield 1 since that released approx a year ago. Work & life commitments, plus other games all fight for my limited time.

Based upon that, I would be lucky to ever see 1 of the heroes I would have paid ££ for. This, plus the entire loot crate bull shit has meant I'm simply not buying Battlefront this year.

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u/tempest_87 Nov 13 '17

average gamer

That's the problem. This type of stuff is not targeted at the average gamer. This type of stuff is targeted at the non-average, the "whales".

One person spending $1k on a game is worth almost 200 of those that just buy the game alone. And make no mistake, there are those that spend that, and more.

It is those people that thus stuff is aimed at.

All EA has to do is make sure enough average gamers play to draw in the whales so that they can enjoy their pay to win against those that haven't.

Not buying at all, not playing at all, is the only way the average gamer can do anything about this trend.

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u/DarthSillyDucks Nov 13 '17

They don't want you to work at it. That's the whole point. It's too much work so $12.99 suddenly seems reasonable.

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u/shugo2000 Nov 13 '17

I played 40 hours of Destiny 2 and felt like that was enough for me. No way am I going to spend hundreds of hours on BF2.

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u/Metabro Nov 13 '17

They expect you to think, "$5 or 120 hours," and then to think up your hourly rate at work.

Its the same nodel that crappy phone games have where they teach you to associate their fake currency with time, and then to attach the amount you value your time (based on your job) to their fake currency.

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u/Persiano123 Nov 12 '17

And Vader costs 60k, it's bizzare.

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u/Goldeagle1123 Nov 13 '17

It's not bizarre, it's a bullshit scumbag money grab.

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