r/arrow • Boxing Glove • Apr 19 '18

[S06E19] 'The Dragon' Post Episode Discussion

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u/OLKv3 Apr 20 '18

And that kids, is why you don't bully people. Never know if they'll grow up to be a mob kingpin with anger issues

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u/flashpool46 Apr 20 '18

that was a great episode of Dragon, I hope Arrow can match it

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u/verandablue Apr 20 '18

I actually liked this episode a lot. It was a nice break from the constant interpersonal drama of Team Arrow.

Guy that plays Diaz is a really good actor. I finally know something about him, so I have reason to be invested in his character. Shouldn't have taken so long, though.

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u/PasholNaxui Apr 20 '18

I am pretty sure Diaz couldve just killed everyone at the table one by one, and then start slicing throats of the guards in the room, while other guards would just keep aiming at him until the last one is killed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '18

lol, Ricardo doesn't have an angel over one shoulder and a demon on the other one. He has two demons on both shoulders, and they're always egging each other on.

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u/Thatguy181991 Apr 20 '18

I’ve never seen anything Ricardo Diaz’ actor is in but the actor pulls off chilling very well. And I think the character concept and writing to set him up as a villain has been subpar so it speaks to his talents that he still conveys a threat

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u/katniss_everjeans Apr 20 '18

No way Diaz gets beaten in 4 episodes. Calling it now - he (or him as part of the quadrant) is next season’s villain, too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '18

I loved that cameo by Stephen Amell! What was his character's name again?

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u/Hoganprime Apr 20 '18

I loved how the other side of the big scary table of crime lords were silent. Didn't feel intimidating.

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u/t-zone671 Apr 20 '18

I actually enjoyed this episode. As someone who shared Diaz's background and motivation, it was relatable. Without the killing and becoming evil, of course. Lol.

This episode should have been called, "Enter the Dragon."

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u/crsnyder13 Apr 20 '18

So.... how much did Stephen Amell get paid for this episode?

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u/DMorrin15 Apr 20 '18

Diaz had a very John Wick vibe

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u/Dark_Magicion Apr 20 '18

I gave a hearty chuckle when the Dragon Logo showed up at the start. That was quite nice.

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u/crackcorn69 Apr 20 '18

okay just saying it would be pretty dope if Diaz took his gasoline flask to the next level and drank from it then learned how to breathe fire with it like those circus performers do to kill his victims.

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u/svrtngr Apr 20 '18

This season has the fuckiest plotting I've ever seen in anything ever.

In hopeful news, maybe these last three or four episodes will be zero filler so we can have a solid chunk of Arrow episodes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '18

Arrow is SO MUCH BETTER when it's not dealing with Team Arrow bullshit. It sucks that we've had to wait until episode 19 for us to really see Diaz in action because looking at this episode he could have been one of the best Arrowverse villains.

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u/GeneralMelon Apr 20 '18

Well, I said this episode would make or break Dragon. It definitely made Dragon. Every scene he was in was pure joy. The Fefe B-plot was bad but it was so boring I could basically just tune it out and forget it the moment it cut back to Dragon. It's in the Top 5 of Season 6 for me, though admittedly that isn't saying much.

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u/turtleyturtle17 Apr 20 '18

They should just kill everyone at the end of the season. Kill felicity. Kill William. Kill Diggle; Dragon being the one to kill all of them making him oliver's greatest ever villain plus making it kind of a reboot next season.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '18

Very good episode . Next thing : i don't think there's any logical chance Dragon beats Oliver . If he does , it's bad writing . Oliver defeated Malcom Merlyn , deathstroke , ra , damien darhk . Prometheus was probably worse than all of the others in terms of combat but he had that psychological advantage . Anyway , in no case Diaz should beat Oliver . Big difference between training and actually fighting legendary villains .

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u/RIATplays Apr 20 '18

Unless we get a shitload of flashbacks, it won't make any sense for why Oliver will probably lose a hand to hand fight with Diaz next episode. I know he's great in comics, but he kinda just shoots and repeatedly punches in the show. This episode specifically felt like that dark Knight scene with joker talking with the mafia, except Diaz probably should've gotten shot the second he shot that Quadrant guy, he definitely would be dead in any real scenario like that. Other than that and FeFe, I liked it quite Abit, I hope we get more villain focus episodes like next season too.

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u/Ranlier Apr 21 '18

Can we all agree Laurel was hot af this episode?

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u/yolofulcrum Apr 20 '18

The Quadrant. Freaking Walmart Court of Owls knockoffs.

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u/flintlock0 Apr 20 '18

The first part of that “B” plot didn’t even make sense. What was it supposed to do? Just show us that Felicity and Curtis can still “hack” some stuff together?

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u/HolyBomb_ Apr 20 '18

Why is Siren so bothered by Diaz? Didn't Zoom torture people? Wasn't Zoom way more ruthless then Diaz? Was she just too scared to show fear in front of Zoom? Cause she seemed into blowing up entire buildings and killing whoever was in them. I don't see how Diaz is going to beat Olliver in straight up fight, he just shoots a little and then punches. Honestly, I still find Diaz kinda boring.

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u/LordCaedus13 Apr 20 '18

Holy God that episode was amazing. I actually love that they committed to just doing a Diaz episode rather than have some half-baked side plot for Oliver that would've just taken time away from it. Just wow.

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