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Video Shadow of the Colossus 4K 100+ FPS Unofficial PC "Port" Recomp Gameplay
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u/Sylvers 9d ago
Sony's policy of cutting out
I foresee two possible futures:
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Sony gets their shit together and fires off simultaneous official PC ports moving forward to capitalize on the paying player base who have no interest in buying a PS.
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Fight this in court, embed hidden DRM that attempts to break decompilation, etc. And inevitably, they will lose this battle.
I am pretty sure they're going with 2.
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u/Digital_Deebo 9d ago
I think so too. It's not as if it took a lot of money to port the games. They bought a whole company dedicated to PC ports. They made a Billion dollars from the PC ports on games that were old when they finally brought them over to PC. Now they are making no money and ppl are still playing the games.
I would rather make money and have the Console Fanboys upset than Make no money to appease the Fanboys.
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u/vI_M4YH3Mz_Iv 9d ago
They messed up massively, I cant remember if it was sony but someone said that their ports didnt sell as expected, yeah pr9babky due to them releasing years after the ps4/5 version and the fact they are full price upon release on pc. However even though some didnt sell that well I bet their return on investment was still very very good, I cant imagine the cost of porting then from ps to pc would have cost much at all, so any sales would have been almost pure profit.
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u/Alanmurilo22 9d ago
They clearly made money from PC ports, we know that already: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/former-sony-exec-finally-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-putting-playstation-games-on-pc-is-almost-like-printing-money/
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/12/19/playstation-pc-game-sales-leak-insomniac-budgets-roi
They stopped porting to PC because: 1) leadership changes; 2) the RAM crisis is hitting them hard (and will continue to do so), so they realized they need every little argument they can use to sell their closed box and still make profit, hence exclusives coming back and ending physical media (more ROI on digital sales). But with the PS5 being hacked and emulators and recompilations taking over in the last month, anyone can see their HQ is in high panic mode — GTA 6 is the saving grace here, but it won't save their asses forever.
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u/linuxwes 9d ago
> GTA 6 is the saving grace here, but it won't save their asses forever.
I am very curious to see if somebody manages to "recompile" GTA 6 for PC before Rockstar officially releases it on PC. It probably won't happen, but you knows folks will be trying and it would be hilarious if they succeed.
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u/cursedfan 9d ago
They want to sell gta 6 on ps5 then maybe a pro upgrade then on ps6 then a remaster on ps6 pro
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u/Sylvers 9d ago
It was always a self inflicted wound. As you say, they made their PC ports less desirable and especially at a full box price point when they're so delayed.
The scuttlebutt says something different, however. Suggesting that the real reason they stopped ports wasn't that they made very little money. Rather that they erroneously assumed that they can tempt PC players into converting into future PS owners if they like the ports.
But the reality is, if you have PS and Xbox games ports on a decent PC, you truly have no reason to get a console. So that assumption failing made them pull out. That's what we're assuming, anyway. It's not like they'll admit it to us.
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u/FeedbackInhibit 9d ago
I was enjoying computer gaming before the first PlayStation existed. They never had a chance of converting some of us.
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u/Qardnall 9d ago
Hit the nail on the head. Sony is in the hardware business, all their first party software is there specifically to entice users to buy the latest hardware. They must have realized the most effective way to tempt people to buy the hardware is to keep their stuff exclusive to that platform. It's unfortunate since I'd rather play on PC, but it makes sense at least, unlike their other recent decisions...
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u/DolphinOrDonkey 9d ago
One of many reasons: Sony didn't have the PC to Playstation conversion they thought they would have. They openly have said one of the major reasons they ported games to PC was to get PC players into the Playstation ecosystem.
The ports actually had an opposite effect, and fewer PC players were buying Playstations.
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u/Random_Guy_47 8d ago
If you've spent 2k+ on a gaming pc you likely don't want to spend hundreds more on a console that you'll use for the 6 exclusive games that you actually care about.
I bought most of the games they ported to Steam. If they continue porting them I'll continue buying them but I won't buy a console either way.
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u/PemaleBacon 9d ago
Thats mostly true with some exception. Stellar Blade for example sold insanely well on PC. Sony doesn't understand the PC market or what its expectations are. If they were far smarter they would be able to hugely take the PC market to their advantage but they're still stuck in the past with exclusives and console ecosystem
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u/MaximumGlum9503 9d ago
They may be left with no choice but to do pc ports I get a feeling they held several back but no one could have predicted this before gta 5, I wonder how many will choose to update firmware for that one game
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u/Sylvers 9d ago
I think ultimately.. you're right. But I kinda doubt their first solution will be to do the logical thing. Sony has a strong anti consumer streak. They always had it. They never use a scalpel when a sledgehammer is nearby.
I think they will first try to fight this. And of course, it won't work. And eventually they will cave in and put together a bullshit PR statement about how they love the PC community and want them to enjoy the great games they make, or some nonsense like that.
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u/Vivid-Produce-9373 9d ago
from a purely technical pov they can't do shit ,AI companies run the world rn and Gaming revenue is nothing for them nor Is Sony
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u/ABLogic 9d ago
Or they push cloud gaming, and the PS6 will just a glorified streambox, holding only decryption keys to access their platform, or something along those lines.
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u/Mistredo 9d ago
The problem with cloud gaming is that it doesn't work well in many locations. You need to be relatively close to a data center, and in many places, that's simply not feasible. Even in areas where data centers exist, you need specialized hardware and a large enough user base to justify equipping those data centers with it.
Additionally, this costs a lot of money to operate, so a $100 game would suddenly become $100 + a $30 subscription + hardware costs. And at that point, what's even the point of having PlayStation hardware? If everything runs through the cloud, any device with a basic chip can stream games.
The PS5 is still competing with PC, Xbox, and Switch, and this move could alienate a lot of people and cost Sony a significant number of customers. I would be very surprised if they went down this route, and this protection would only work if they went all in and stopped selling games altogether.
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u/lsf_stan 9d ago
funny how the online talk about AI has changed now
when modders started using AI for games...things really shifted
and now we have the possibility of never having any games be exclusive to consoles
all games can now have unofficial playable PC ports, thanks to AI/ML
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u/Sylvers 9d ago
I find it equally ironic. I am a graphic designer and my field is mostly nuked by AI already. I had to get on with the times pretty early and learn the new tools. The thing I'd want to communicate to people who avoid AI is.. it's extremely capable, even if you mostly see people make low effort crap with it.
This whole decomp/porting situation is just the beginning of a long chain of discoveries of what a layman can do when they have the equivalent of a team of coding experts available at a very low price on their PC to do all their bidding.
Some crazy stuff is about to happen to the digital world, when most everything can be decompiled at the 1's and 0's.
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u/jonydevidson 9d ago
Fight this in court, embed hidden DRM that attempts to break decompilation, etc. And inevitably, they will lose this battle.
You can't stop this. The only way to stop the future that is coming is to move everything to the servers and offer only streaming, where the delivery you get is streamed video.
That's the only way.
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u/Maticus 9d ago
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u/ConsiderationSoggy65 8d ago
Since my 1660 is already running some emulator games perfectly, with frame rates above 50 fps (some games don't quite hit a steady 60 fps, while others exceed 70 fps—all while using only half of my graphics card and processor capacity), I believe that with further updates, these games should all be able to run at over 70 fps on this PC.
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u/Feisty_Bread8259 9d ago
is a ps4 game, you can see that its barely using the gpu even at 4k
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u/HugeWrongdoer2 8d ago
Yes but despite the fact these are "native" ports, they often don't have the best performance, even if your hardware is leagues ahead of a ps4, not yet at least.
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u/Odd-Onomatopoeia-25 9d ago
I mean, if they released it on PC, I would buy it again.
I totally have no problem re-buying a game when it was such a good game.
And could you imagine playing it and having VR? /euphoria
But hey, if they don't want that money in their bank accounts, then by all means let the gamers play.
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u/SarlacFace 9d ago
I... Had no idea this was a thing, apparently GoW3 as well? Modders really said fuck it, we'll do our own ports
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u/Beneficial-Fuel2546 9d ago
yes God of war 3 Bloodborne
and now Shadow of Colossus and some are doing infamous second son Uncharted Trilogy 44
u/Atomosthethird 9d ago
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u/Sevla7 9d ago
As a fan of Ueda work:
The best version of ICO and Shadow of the Colossus is the OG PS2 version, the remaster for PS3 was very faithful but it changed a couple of things (no big deal if i'm remembering it correctly), now the "remake" did some very weird changes to the og artistic vision just because they wanted to show everyone how the new version is better instead of being 100% faithful. Some changes in the fog, lighting effects and how you deal with bosses definitely delivers something different compared to when this game was praised as "art" when it was first released.
So... a faithful port of the OG PS2 game with some really good CRT Filter and framerate/widescreen fixes would probably be the absolute best version.
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u/poland626 8d ago
where are these found? high seas? or just randomly on github?
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u/Milk-lover-3000 8d ago
The launcher and PKG extractor are always on GitHub. You have to get the PKG files from high seas or from the actual disks of the game
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u/SarlacFace 9d ago
Never in my wildest dreams did I think this would be possible, and I mean that sincerely
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u/itstommygun 9d ago
When you say you didn’t know “this” was a thing, do you mean all these ps5 games running natively on PC?
Definitely do some looking into it, it’s very interesting. They’ve managed to reverse engineer something over 90% of all of the PS5 libraries, so now most PlayStation games are playable on PC.
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u/SarlacFace 9d ago
Yup, natively on PC. WTF lol this is black magic
Edit, I need to stress how FUCKING INSANE this is lol. Seriously, when did this happen? How long has this been going on?
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u/innociv 9d ago
It's happening to every game that companies refused to sell a port of because AI can get a console game running well on PC in 1-3 weeks now on like a $100 or $200 per month claude or openai plan.
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u/SarlacFace 9d ago
That's just ...what? That's crazy man, 1-3 weeks?! Is there some sort of, dunno, database site or something for this, that has the games and their statuses?
Edit - I don't mean the actual game files BTW, just the listing of which games and their statuses
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u/femboycbt 9d ago
Gow 3 is runnin very very well. With the gow for pc launcher you dont even get shader comp lag
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u/MuscleTrue9554 9d ago
Yes, people are using AI/LLMs to reverse engineer those games really fast. This is basically something that was possible before LLMs advancement, at least not without humans putting in hundreds and thousands of hours into it.
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u/LucidFir 9d ago
wait till you see the co-op anything github repo start to bear fruit. https://github.com/cranebeaker/coop-anything it'll be like nucleus coop but for everything ever.
have you seen the mashups like mario in elden ring?
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u/rainorshinedogs 9d ago
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u/LucidFir 9d ago
so, most of reddit is banning "AI slop", but I just saw a post about decomp/recomp specifically targeting r/lowendgaming ... as in, when they recomp, they can include whatever the fuck they like, including not having the things that cost system resources
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u/libdemparamilitarywi 8d ago
I removed all the colossi and now it runs flawlessly on my 10 year old laptop.
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u/So6oring 9d ago
Same here man. Goin on 7-8 year old hardware
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u/Popular-Factor3553 9d ago
Uhm does wx 4100 and i3 3220 even count as a potato?
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u/So6oring 9d ago
I've got a GTX 1070 6Gb and some old af i5 from when I first built it in 2015
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u/Babys_For_Breakfast 8d ago
I mean, I still gotta 9700k from 2018, plus an RTX5080, and my CPU is NOT the bottleneck for like 80% of the games I play.
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u/ConsiderationSoggy65 8d ago
Yes I have a 1660, and it runs most games at over 60 fps, though some run below that because they aren't 100% optimized.
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u/Unwashed_villager 9d ago
nah, you are just poor and not embrace AI and Jensen's stinky dong as reaaaaal PC enthusiast you filthy peasant! /s
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u/Wiseon321 9d ago
No you need immensely over specked PCs.
It doesn’t really matter, GitHub is not a place to distribute what is effectively rom hacks.
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u/Unwashed_villager 9d ago
I downvoted to hell on another post mentioning that a 2D PS game requires a 5080 and 9800X3D to play on PC.
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u/Parthurnax52 8d ago
I was really sad when I heard that Sony won’t port their exclusives to PC but I am now happy that they won’t port their exclusives to PC
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u/Cybrknight 9d ago
Sony - "We will no longer be porting any more single player games to PC".
PC Enthusiasts - "Hold my beer".
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u/foenetik- 9d ago
Last guardian pls
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u/80m63rM4n 9d ago
Ico: https://github.com/nathanialf/ico-pc
Shadow of the Colossus: https://github.com/AjncSystem/ShadowOfTheColossus-PC
The Last Guardian: https://github.com/HayatoG/tlg_pc
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u/Significant_Pair6523 5d ago
interesting choice of using github for this, DMCA not a concern?
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u/Nirast25 9d ago
The most amazing game that I hated playing.
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u/Mighti-Guanxi 9d ago
interesting statement... reminds me of Nier replicant a little bit. care to explain how/why? i was looking forward to this game and heard a lot of good things about it.
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u/Downtown_Lock3934 9d ago
I'm not the person you replied to, and i have yet to play the full version as i only got to play a demo back in the day, but i had the experience that killing these giant beasts just felt wrong. Like i was a bad person for doing so.
It's been on my list to play ever since it came out though. ICO is one of the best games I've ever played, so i immediately added Colossus to my need to play list.
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u/Nirast25 9d ago
The game has some amazing elements about it. The admosphere, the giants, the gameplay loop, they're all great and a good indication of why that game is so beloved by people.
And then the controls grag the whole thing down. They're clunky and frustrating, and have aged terribly. It's like plain one of those knock-off rubriks cubes that gets stuck constantly: Doable, but not fun.
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u/Alternative-Mood5824 9d ago
Maybe I'm the minority but I don't like how this game is structured. Sure it's fun to feel small and powerless, David vs Goliath sort of thing, but there's not much else in the game. Kinda feels like dark souls without the levels or enemies, just walking from one boss to the other. I do love the atmosphere and the feeling of getting lost in an ancient land, but that's about it
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u/Animanganime 9d ago
The only game I bought 3 times. PS2, PS3 and the Remake
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u/TheSweetestKill 9d ago
The vibes are immaculate. There's this ever-present melancholy that almost no other game manages to convey.
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u/hitmobilegamehsr 9d ago
I'm so happy this is happening right after Sony cancelled their PC ports. Screw them
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u/1RedOne 9d ago
A beautiful game that I can’t ever play again, it was too sad to take down those strange creatures.
My brother and his gf watched me play it and I remember she cried when I beat the leviathan in the water temple, she felt bad for it
That kind of sept into me too, the rest of the game was a somber affair
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u/H0lographic_Meatloaf 8d ago
I don't disagree at all it is a very somber game but I think that that's very much the point. It's a tragedy, really. Beautiful game, definitely one of my top games of all time, I hope you give it another chance someday.
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u/Thorpy 9d ago
This and Demon Souls were the only two games that I’d have considered getting a PS5 for. In a few months I’m hoping to be able to play both on my PC.
I don’t understand why they never did timed releases for them. Maybe the financials weren’t worth it but I’d have picked them both up day one and I can’t remember the last time I did that for any game.
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u/SippyMountain 9d ago
Eh, I still wouldn't pick them up day 1. PC ports are often lazy as fuck and barely run on any build short of one you could have instead purchased a used 2020 Honda Civic with minor cosmetic damage for a similar price.
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u/GrimDallows 9d ago
I remember buying demons souls in ps3, then try to get everyone to get to play it... and everyone refusing and calling it a shitty game.
Man it feels so strange that it created a whole genre remembering how people refused to even touch it past the tutorial when I took it to my buddies homes to show them.
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u/Dathedra 9d ago edited 9d ago
Dark Souls struck the timegeist.
It grew popular because streaming and lets plays grew big at the same time. People enjoyed seeing players suffer and grow. Speedruns, and "challenge" runs kept the flow going.
Ontop of that its a great game to play yourself even if you watched someone play it before.
DS blowing up like that was super lucky. Without all the spotlight it would have been the nieche game Demon Souls was. (Also wouldnt have happened if the game was stuck on a console.)
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u/Liammellor 9d ago
This was a PS4 game, definitely would have been cheaper to just go that way instead of getting a 5 for it anyway
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u/Mortwight 9d ago
poor lil guy
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u/mbxz7LWB 9d ago
Ending to this game is super unexpectedly sad.
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u/_Bob-Sacamano 8d ago
Why did the guy die at the end of the video? Didn't he kill the giant?
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u/ahmedoomar04 9d ago
Can someone please tell me where can I find all of these PC ports.
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u/Altered_Kill 9d ago
All of these games are hosted on github. So you are looking for a github repo for this specific game.
Im sure someone is or will be putting together a launcher to host all of these (heck im thinking about it).
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u/The13eeraholic 9d ago
Isn't that what Quiver Launcher is? Or do you mean the actual game files? I'm currently trying to figure this all out 😅
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u/SirWigglesVonWoogly 9d ago
I looked at that fake storefront thingy they had up for a bit and it said in order to play any of these games you have to have a jailbroken PS5. So it doesn’t sound like they’re just making standalone PC “ports”
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u/Wiseon321 9d ago
This is the funny part:
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u/uceenk 9d ago
waiting for Ghost of Yotei and Astrobot
yes yes emulator is already working on Astrobot but emulation always need beefy PC, i wait for exe version, in theory it should require spec close to PS5
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u/elessarjd 9d ago
Recent PS5 games, like Astrobot, aren't being emulated in the traditional sense. Because the PS5 and PC share the same chip architecture, these "emulators" actually use a compatibility layer. This layer intercepts the console's code and makes your PC hardware act like a PS5, rather than virtually emulating a full PS5 system, so you don't need nearly as beefy of a computer to run these as you might think.
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u/PCAnvil 9d ago
Only reason to buy a ps5 over pc is to play sony exclusives and if everything is going to be ported to pc with 100 plus fps then sony is in deep trouble
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u/CoffeeGrinds96 8d ago
Optimization. Let's be real, some PC games have shit optimizations vs console.
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u/RemyVonLion 8d ago
Until modders figure out how to optimize anything and everything far better than any developer through continuous community improvements lol
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u/shankartz 8d ago
No they aren't. As far as I am aware you can't build a ps5 equivalent pc for cheaper or the same price. So people who just want to play games are going to drop more money on a pc. And people who just want to pick up and play aren't magically going to want to go through the effort of building and maintaining a pc along with dealing with emulation just to play video games. Sony is gonna be fine.
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u/MCWizardYT 8d ago edited 8d ago
roughly equivalent to the launch PS5 (PCPartPicker).
Price: $611
PS5 launch price: $600
Difference: $11
This is, of course, assuming you can get all the parts at those prices (the prices are based on the current used market)
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u/Efficient-Run-7755 9d ago
I unfortunately am not the target audience of this game and could not get through more than 4 collossi, but happy for the cult followers.
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u/reallycoolguylolhaha 9d ago
WHAT IS THE CHARGE?
POSTING A RECOMP?
A SUCCULENT
? Shadow of the Colossus RECOMP GEEET YOUR HANDS OFF MY REDDIT POST
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u/darkargengamer 9d ago
Someone is going to be executed at Sony´s HQ for being so dumb.