r/Euroleague • • 1d ago

2 years Personal assessment: the rise and fall from Paris basketball

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Context: I have been following basketball for 50 years, initially as a fan of Orthez (then Pau-Orthez). Back in 2024, when Paris was invited in the Euroleague, I decided to buy season tickets (which I renewed the following year). What I wanted before all was to see good basketball, and of course, if Paris was to win games, that would be perfect. Of course, I supported Paris, but wanted to see good games.

Background Paris basket is a non-typical club. Most french clubs are from midsize towns (Pau, Limoges, Le Mans, Cholet…) with the exception of Villeurbanne (Lyon) and Strasbourg, and have a strong fanbase. Basketball in Paris has never been successful, under different versions (Racing, Levallois). Only Nanterre, in the suburbs has managed to build a lasting club, with a strong local interest. This is not typical of basketball, only PSG has a huge ultras base (you literally have to wait several years before getting season tickets). The rugby clubs (Stade Français and Racing 92) have no fan base either. However, basketball is very popular in Paris, through the NBA (and the strong French presence there), the street culture. You see many people with NBA jerseys in the streets.

Paris basket took an original way, led by David Kahn and Eric Schwartz. First they joined the top level by buying the rights to the bankrupt Hyeres-Toulon. Then they were invited in the 2023-2024 Eurocup although finishing 9th in the French League (because of Paris aura). And last, they benefitted the building of the Adidas Arena for the Olympics. At this time, Paris was playing “classical” european basketball.

The rise: a fairy tale The genius coup was to hire Tomas Iisalo as head coach, who in turn proposed to take over his former club’s (Bonn) roster: Shorts, Ward, Malcolm, Herrera. Probably with the idea that to attract people in the new arena, you would have to play an exciting style of basketball. And Iisalo’s fast game, with spectacular players was ideal for that. They added a couple of players, among which Nadir Hifi, a non-typical shooter from Le Portel. That happened to be a master move, because this disruptive style won games. Paris won the Eurocup and reached the French League finals, only to lose against Monaco. They were invited in the Euroleague. This is when I took season tickets. During summer, Iisalo left (after just one year) to go to the NBA and was replaced by Thiago Splitter, his first head-coach experience, but the roster remained almost unchanged, with the addition of Kevarius Hayes and Maodo Lo. The alchemy was there, Splitter was smart enough not to break it, making small adjustments, the players wanted to prove they were underrated and it worked miracles. At halfway, Paris was first in the Euroleague, then opponents adapted but the team reached the play-in, won in Madrid and finally lost in quarterfinals to a superior Fenerbahce. And won the French title against Monaco. Many analysts criticized the “run and gun” style, but beating Paris was easier said than done.

The fall: entertainment first, basketball second? As expected, the roster vanished, the players taking the contracts they deserved. Unexpectedly, Splitter also left (to the NBA again). Time to rebuild. And this is when it began to fail. Francesco Tabellini was hired as head coach from Nyburk. David Kahn stated: “I have no doubt, he will be coach of the year in the Euroleague”. With all players leaving, the team made a financial effort to keep Nadir Hifi. But the roster was poorly built. Lack of a point guard (Nadir is more a 2 than a pure 1, Herrera is not a point guard), lack of a solid center (why did they let Hayes go? He is not outstanding, but solid, can defend, and anyway, Paris does not post-up. He was perfect in such a roster). Faye and Dokossi, come on. And piling up forwards with similar strengths (Mbaye, Willis, Rhoden, Lamar Stevens…). This and Tabellini’s rigid coaching, the team lost many games, there was no structure, Tabellini was fired, replaced by Julius Thomas, depicted as a young genius, but the team did not make any progress when he took over. He also left at the end of the season. He was replaced by rookie Maxime Lefebvre (assistant at Minnesota), helped by Pierrick Poupet (ex-ASVEL - good idea to take him). But no lesson was taken. The roster is built the same way. Robinson replaced by Etienne, so still two guards (with Hifi - Herrera is a shooting 2), no way to alternate Nadir at the 1 and 2 positions to vary the offense. And the centers are still Dokossi and Faye. Is somebody analyzing the strengths or weaknesses of the team? Pair that with a bunch of outliers (which is understandable because of budget and tax constraints), you don’t have a team, and nobody seems to care. In addition, the defense this year is particularly bad. Was not very good last year but is definitely very bad now. Can’t see any footprint from Lefebvre coaching.

Also the club seems to be more focused around entertainment than around performance on the court. “Nadir Hifi prince de Paris” is a nice marketing claim, but beyond that… Relentless basketball can win games but is not a goal in itself. But in Paris, it seems preferable to lose a spectacular game than to win an average one. Paris basket’s marketing is very good (really), merchandising is excellent, but that seems to be the only policy. Make a show, sell tickets and jerseys, play a spectacular game, have nice VIPs. Not the reason I want to come. Add a 20-to-30% increase in season tickets prices every year. Game over, I did not renew this year. Went to see Valencia this week, not good, euroleague Tv will do the job this year.

Summary: in my opinion, the club has a strong marketing strategy, but no sport oriented strategy. 6 coaches in 5 years (Weaver, Iisalo, Splitter, Tabellini, Thomas, Lefebvre). Inconsistent rosters (except when Iisalo came with the Bonn team); no real basketball direction (relentless basketball is not an objective in itself, just one of the possible ways to win games). Who is the real GM ? James Newman seemed to be the hidden guy for that, but he left one year ago. I am still following Paris games but with less interest.


r/Euroleague • • 1d ago

Baskonia made the first EL coaching change of the season by firing Paolo Galbiati and bringing back Velimir Perasovic. The decision was hardly a surprise, but the way it unfolded says a lot about a club that, since 2012, has never kept the same head coach for two consecutive years.

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r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

The Partizan atmosphere is really something else

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r/Euroleague • • 1d ago

🇸🇮6’8 Guard, Stefan Joksimovic for Baskonia vs. Valencia in R4 of ACB: - 10 points - 4 rebounds - 4 assists - 32 minutes The 17yo lefty guard was efficient driving downhill and attacking closeouts. His confidence with the ball at PRO level is a major improvement for the young player.

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r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

Angelos Papanikolaou is the new President of the Hellenic Basketball Federation (EOK) following Vangelis Liolios' resignation

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The choice is certainly amusing given the situation:

He has allegedly made a number of Anti-Olympiacos posts, (basically writing social media posts like a PAO fan), covered in this article: https://athlosnews.gr/524916/papanikolaou-pelates-exochika-kai-i-xeftila-enos-ypopsifiou-pou-thelei-na-ginei-proedros-tis-eok-pics

He was officially PAO backed in January 2021

He was the choice of Vasilakopoulos for succession (Vasilakopoulos was widely considered as a PAO leaning president)

His previous role was overseeing the Greek Elite League (2nd division), where the majority of the fixed games currently under scrutiny, took place.


r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

Question for the upcoming Euroleague expansion

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New EuroLeague watcher here. I wanted to ask if after the expansion the two EuroCup Finalists will enter the Euroleague competition like they do now or if it will be changed. Thanks in advance.


r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

Moments before his testimony, arrested Hellenic Basketball Federation head Vaggelis Liolios announced his resignation and withdrawal from all basketball issues as long as the criminal case is ongoing

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r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

[Basketballmaniacs] PAOK have reached an agreement with BCL breakout star Leland Walker (from Finnish club, Salon Vilpas) on a 2.5-year deal. The American guard will be loaned out for the remainder of this season Sources: @tsibos10

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r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

[BallinEurope] Zalgiris, Joventut and the Business of Multi-Club Basketball

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With Motiejunas/Tesonet buying Joventut Badalona, I did a deep dive on the multi club model that we've seen in football coming to basketball

Check it out here

https://www.ballineurope.com/zalgiris-joventut-and-the-business-of-multi-club-basketball-8378/


r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

[BasketballSphere] Milano suffered a home loss against Barcelona in the seventh round of the EuroLeague, which was their SIXTH defeat of the season, writing an infamous page in club history with their worst start ever

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r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

[ClutchData] 𝗘𝘂𝗿𝗼𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗴𝘂𝗲 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟲-𝟮𝟳: 𝗘𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆 𝗟𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗲 - 𝗟𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝟳 𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗲𝘀

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𝗡𝗲𝘁 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴:

1️⃣ Panathinaikos 🇬🇷

2️⃣ Fenerbahce 🇹🇷

3️⃣ Valencia Basket 🇪🇸

𝗢𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴:

1️⃣ Real Madrid 🇪🇸

2️⃣ Valencia Basket 🇪🇸

3️⃣ Barcelona 🇪🇸

𝗗𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴:

1️⃣ Panathinaikos 🇬🇷

2️⃣ Fenerbahce 🇹🇷

3️⃣ Crvena Zvezda 🇷🇸

https://x.com/clutchdata_/status/2113913945245327388


r/Euroleague • • 2d ago

Partizan, Mijailović: "Jabari Parker had the biggest contract in Partizan's history, it was our responsibility to find a solution"

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r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

Former Euroleague referee director Richard Stokes mentioned in testimony of Greek basketball scandal

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Former Euroleague director, Richard Stokes mentioned in testimony of Greek basketball scandal. A team insider testified that he was asked to organise an all-expenses-paid-trip for Stokes at Costa Navarino luxury destination in June 2021, two months before Liolios won the EOK elections and a few months after the controversial Unics and Monaco game with the allegations against Koromilas.

Koromilas stayed at the property at the same time as Stokes.

A reminder of who Stokes is, he served as the referee director for Euroleague Basketball from March 2015 until June 2023, where he left together with Glickman ( Former Euroleague CEO, currently involved in a bid for London franchise worth 1 billion ) .


r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

After the duel Bahçeşehir secured victory against Beşiktaş,maintaining their position as Turkish league leader

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r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

Round 7 done, here is the Standings

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r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

[Sky News] European football giants to meet in London for NBA Europe talks. Executives from PSG, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Barcelona and Real Madrid will hold discussions with NBA executives on Tuesday. Potential investors have already bid up to $1B for the London franchise.

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r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

These are the 49 games being investigated in the Greek basketball scandal.

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r/Euroleague • • 3d ago

[Calzoni] JABARI PARKER is now a free agent and he can sign a contract with a new team. Parker and KK Partizan today reached an agreement for the termination of the contract valid until the end of the season.

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r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

First sacking of Greek journalist for involvement in the Greek Basketball League scandal

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Spyros Kavelieratos was sacked from Sport24 after one of the evidence have shown that he had a meeting with Liolios so Ethnikos Piraeus, would lose the game against Promitheas.

Spyros Kavelieratos was also one of the five journalists that Liolios had chosen to give an interview to speak about his ' hard work to bring the Greek Basketball League back to lawfulness ' .


r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

Judicial sources say that even more referees (8-9 in total) are implicated in the Greek match-fixing scandal, with further arrests expected soon.

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r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

POST MATCH THREAD: Olympiacos - Fenerbahce [EuroLeague Regular Season, Round 7]

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Event Date: October 23, 2026 20:15 CET

Stadium: SUNEL ARENA

Attendance: 7214

Referees: BELOSEVIC, ILIJA; PEREZ, EMILIO; UDYANSKYY, EDUARD


TEAM SCORE
Olympiacos 61
Fenerbahce 64

TEAM 1 2 3 4
Olympiacos 20 14 15 12
Fenerbahce 8 16 21 19

Head Coach: BARTZOKAS, GEORGIOS

# Olympiacos MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
4 BOURNELES, GEORGIOS DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
42 DUNSTON, BRYANT DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
45 HALL, DONTA 6:25 4 2/3 - - 2 1 3 1 - - - - 7
88 JONES, TYRIQUE 10:48 2 1/2 - - 1 1 2 - - - - 4 -1
34 JOSEPH, CORY 25:39 7 1/4 1/2 2/3 - 2 2 2 - 3 - 2 4
0 MILLER-MCINTYRE, CODI 31:19 12 3/10 2/6 - 1 4 5 6 - 2 - 3 7
33 MILUTINOV, NIKOLA 20:31 6 1/5 - 4/6 5 8 13 1 - 2 - - 18
24 NDIAYE, MBAYE 8:23 - 0/1 0/2 - - 1 1 - - 3 - 2 -6
21 NETZIPOGLOU, OMIROS 11:17 - - 0/1 - 3 - 3 2 - - - 2 2
16 PAPANIKOLAOU, KOSTAS 27:46 2 1/1 0/3 0/2 - 1 1 2 2 1 - 1 2
14 VEZENKOV, SASHA 33:53 17 3/6 2/7 5/6 3 7 10 2 - 1 - 3 20
3 WARD, TYSON 23:59 11 2/3 2/4 1/3 - 4 4 1 1 - 2 4 13
Team 1 1 1
Totals 40:00 61 14/35 7/25 12/20 15 30 45 17 3 13 2 21 66

Head Coach: JASIKEVICIUS, SARAS

# Fenerbahce MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
2 BALDWIN IV, WADE 26:44 14 3/10 2/5 2/4 - 1 1 5 1 1 - 4 7
1 BINGHAM, MARCUS 11:52 2 1/1 0/1 - - - - - - 1 - 4 -3
21 CLYBURN, WILL 20:25 6 1/3 1/6 1/2 2 3 5 1 - - - 1 7
11 FORREST, TRENT 13:12 - 0/2 - - - 2 2 2 - 1 1 1 1
8 HORTON TUCKER, TALEN 18:14 4 2/5 0/3 - - 3 3 - 1 1 - 3 -
12 KEY, BRAXTON 20:06 3 1/1 0/2 1/4 1 1 2 2 1 - - 4 2
0 LARKIN, SHANE 21:58 13 2/3 3/7 - - 1 1 5 1 - - 1 16
4 MELLI, NICOLO 25:45 - 0/1 0/2 - 3 2 5 1 - 1 - 1 2
5 SANLI, SERTAC 13:35 5 1/1 1/2 - 1 - 1 - - 1 - 3 1
43 SARGIUNAS, IGNAS DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
31 SHIELDS, SHAVON 28:09 17 2/4 3/5 4/4 1 6 7 1 2 1 - - 25
30 SILVA, CHRIS DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Team 2 8 10 1 9
Totals 40:00 64 13/31 10/33 8/14 10 27 37 17 6 8 1 22 67

r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

Keenan Evans officially returns to Žalgiris

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r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

POST MATCH THREAD: Zalgiris - ASVEL [EuroLeague Regular Season, Round 7]

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Event Date: October 23, 2026 19:00 CET

Stadium: ZALGIRIO ARENA

Attendance: 14834

Referees: LATISEVS, OLEGS; KONSTANTINOVS, KRISTAPS; ATTARD, MANUEL


TEAM SCORE
Zalgiris 105
ASVEL 85

TEAM 1 2 3 4
Zalgiris 29 21 31 24
ASVEL 20 14 25 26

Head Coach: MASIULIS, TOMAS

# Zalgiris MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
22 BLAZEVIC, MAREK 6:01 - 0/1 - - 2 - 2 - 1 1 - 2 -
0 BROWN, STERLING 21:06 11 1/1 3/6 - 2 2 4 1 2 1 - 1 13
51 BUTKEVICIUS, ARNAS 20:49 5 1/1 1/2 - 2 4 6 2 1 1 - 3 9
3 EDWARDS, CARSEN 22:46 16 0/2 4/8 4/5 - 3 3 1 - 1 - 2 12
9 GIEDRAITIS, DOVYDAS 4:04 2 1/2 0/1 - 1 - 1 - - 1 - - -
40 GRIGONIS, MARIUS 12:56 6 1/2 1/3 1/2 1 4 5 2 1 - - - 12
7 LEE, SABEN 17:55 12 2/4 2/3 2/3 1 1 2 7 2 3 - 2 15
12 LO, MAODO 20:24 9 1/4 2/6 1/1 - 4 4 6 - 2 - 3 7
14 SLEVA, DUSTIN 15:17 9 - 3/4 - 2 1 3 2 3 - - 4 13
10 TUBELIS, AZUOLAS 23:37 14 6/8 0/1 2/2 2 2 4 1 1 1 - 2 17
92 ULANOVAS, EDGARAS 16:13 6 0/1 2/3 - 1 - 1 3 - 2 - 1 6
17 VALANCIUNAS, JONAS 18:52 15 6/11 - 3/3 2 6 8 - - 4 - 1 18
Team 1 2 3 3
Totals 40:00 105 19/37 18/37 13/16 17 29 46 25 11 17 - 21 125

Head Coach: PARKER, TONY

# ASVEL MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
25 BESSON, HUGO 16:43 13 2/3 2/3 3/4 1 4 5 1 - 2 - 1 15
21 BOLOMBOY, JOEL 15:09 4 2/4 0/1 0/1 - 1 1 - 2 - - 2 3
0 CALE, MYLES 18:48 4 2/2 - - 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 3 6
99 CROWDER, JAE 16:50 12 1/6 2/3 4/4 - 6 6 1 2 - - 3 16
1 FODZO DADA, MARC-OWEN 16:44 10 4/7 - 2/2 - 2 2 3 1 2 - 1 14
14 GACH, BOTH 19:16 5 2/2 0/1 1/2 - 1 1 2 - - - 2 5
23 LIGHTY, DAVID 13:10 2 1/1 - - - - - 1 1 1 - 2 1
10 MASSA, BODIAN 17:07 4 2/3 - - - 1 1 1 1 - - 3 3
8 MILLS, PATTY 17:40 9 3/4 1/4 - - - - 1 1 2 - - 6
77 SESTINA, NATHAN 17:44 8 2/3 1/2 1/1 - 3 3 1 - - 1 2 10
3 WASHINGTON JR, TYTY 17:31 7 2/4 1/2 - - - - 4 - 3 - 1 4
51 WATERS, TREMONT 13:18 7 1/2 0/3 5/6 - 1 1 2 2 3 - - 9
Team 1 1 1
Totals 40:00 85 24/41 7/19 16/20 3 20 23 18 11 15 3 20 93

r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

POST MATCH THREAD: Paris Basketball - Valencia [EuroLeague Regular Season, Round 7]

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Event Date: October 23, 2026 20:45 CET

Stadium: ADIDAS ARENA

Attendance: 8042

Referees: VILIUS, GYTIS; KOLJENSIC, MILOS ; SUKYS, ARTURAS


TEAM SCORE
Paris Basketball 93
Valencia 104

TEAM 1 2 3 4
Paris Basketball 26 28 16 23
Valencia 32 25 26 21

Head Coach: LEFEVRE, MAXIME

# Paris Basketball MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
11 AYAYI, JOEL 19:50 6 3/5 0/2 - 2 - 2 5 1 1 - 2 9
4 CAVALIERE, LEOPOLD 6:34 2 1/1 - - - - - - - - - 4 -2
13 DOKOSSI, ALLAN 20:59 12 6/8 - 0/5 1 6 7 2 2 2 - 4 13
9 ETIENNE, TYSON 13:17 9 1/2 2/5 1/1 - - - 1 - 1 - 5 4
15 FAYE, MOUHAMED 19:01 7 3/3 - 1/2 2 3 5 1 - - 2 1 14
7 HERRERA, SEBASTIAN 25:01 11 1/2 3/8 - - 4 4 3 1 - - 5 10
34 HOMMES, DAULTON 22:11 5 - 1/3 2/2 1 1 2 2 1 2 - - 7
24 JOHNSON, ALIZE 16:09 9 4/6 0/1 1/1 1 3 4 - - - - - 13
20 MORGAN, JEREMY 18:57 12 - 4/5 - - - - 1 2 1 - - 14
45 PEREIRA, MAOZINHA DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
8 RHODEN, JARED 24:20 20 9/14 0/5 2/2 1 3 4 4 1 1 - 2 18
3 TARPEY, TERRY 13:41 - 0/1 0/1 - - - - 2 - 1 - 2 -3
Team 2 3 5 1 4
Totals 40:00 93 28/42 10/30 7/13 10 23 33 21 8 10 2 25 101

Head Coach: ALBERT, XAVIER

# Valencia MIN PTS 2FG 3FG FT OREB DREB TREB AST STL TO BLK PF PIR
12 BROOKS, ARMONI 19:30 22 3/4 4/7 4/6 2 5 7 3 - 1 - - 29
7 CARDENAS, ALVARO 15:46 6 1/3 1/2 1/1 - 1 1 5 - - - 1 9
20 CORBALAN, GONZALO 18:14 8 1/2 2/5 - 2 - 2 2 - - - 3 6
33 MIROTIC, NIKOLA 13:18 4 0/2 0/2 4/4 2 2 4 1 - 2 - 1 6
8 OSETKOWSKI, DYLAN 20:10 5 1/1 1/4 - 1 - 1 3 1 - - 1 6
2 PUERTO, JOSEP 17:34 5 1/1 1/3 - - 2 2 - 1 - 1 - 8
3 REUVERS, NATHAN 15:40 9 3/3 0/1 3/6 - 2 2 - 1 1 - 3 9
41 RIVERO, JASIEL 12:55 2 1/2 0/2 0/2 2 1 3 - 2 1 - 3 -1
5 SAINT-SUPERY, MARIO 6:45 3 - 1/2 - - 1 1 - - 1 - 1 1
13 SAKO, NEAL 17:57 10 5/6 - 0/3 3 4 7 - 1 1 - 1 13
0 SHORTS, TJ 24:14 25 7/11 2/3 5/5 1 3 4 9 - 1 - 2 33
1 TAYLOR, KAMERON 17:57 5 2/4 0/2 1/2 - 1 1 1 - 1 - 4 -2
Team 1 4 5 5
Totals 40:00 104 25/39 12/33 18/29 14 26 40 24 6 9 1 20 122

r/Euroleague • • 4d ago

Olympiacos BC response to the drama and accusations.

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Since we have been informed that the current owner of Panathinaikos BC is desperately seeking us out, we want to let him know that in his quest for a 100-0 refereeing decision in Panathinaikos’s favor, he will find no allies in us. For years now, we have been waging our own, genuine fight for a 50-50 split. And we will see it through to the end.

In the last few hours, with his usual lack of restraint, he rushed to link our team and its members to an ongoing investigation with which we have absolutely no connection. In fact, he publicly boasts that he knew about it in advance. So, since he has, as he boasts, full knowledge of this confidential proceeding, did no one inform him that we have absolutely nothing to do with it? That there isn’t a single mention of us? Or perhaps that doesn’t fit into the media circus he’s staged on the back of Olympiacos?

We don’t act like judges on Instagram or behind a keyboard.

We have nothing and no one to fear.

And as he already knows firsthand, any attempt to harm our team will be met, for the umpteenth time, with a crushing response. We only hope that, when he is convicted again, some political maneuver won’t surface to keep him at the basketball club.

And a word of advice: be careful what you wish for. Because if the titles that were actually stolen are returned, your team’s trophy case and that famous little table at Sounion will be filled with cobwebs instead of trophies.

P.S. Don’t keep posting and deleting. Everything has been logged, and you’ll have to provide convincing explanations.

P.S. 2 You won’t mention the emblem of the laurel-crowned teenager—which adorned the entire OAKA in May—ever again.

P.S. 3 Everything in due time.

Link to the Greek announcement