Justice for the vase

Dowager Lady Grantham is such an iconic character. Why can’t we get a spinoff based in the mid 19th century during her youth? She has so many great stories that we know of! And so many that are hidden. Can we sign a petition??

I would never have guessed.

Alternate title: Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions!

Alternate title II: Fucking around vs finding out

I love Violet, especially when she comes out with a line full of irony and humour.

"What is a Weekend" is my favourite to use in my own life

I was rewatching the scene where Gwen comes back to Downton Abbey after climbing the social ladder. I was wondering why she and Isobel are keeping their hats when all the other women are not wearing hats. I thought that as a guest, you had to remove your hat before eating. What are the rules in that department?

Here’s my hot take - Mrs Patmore deserved this considering just before she grassed to Carson about Thomas and Andy to get Thomas in trouble. Granted she didn’t know Thomas was teaching Andy but even if they were being romantic, she decided it was against her values and reported them anyway so in my book she tried to cause trouble and she got her karma for it.

Wouldn't it have helped Bates case if someone like Mary or Richard had spoken up about Vera's blackmail and comments about making Bates pay? Surely adding that to the defence would contribute to the picture of her as vindictive and making threats against him? Just a thought I had as the trial is happening now and it really bothers me lol.

Everybody says the scene between mrs. Drew and Edith is so sad but I honestly find her so annoying.
Just like how she’s hurt and in pain from being separated from Marigold, then what about kidnapping a girl from her mom sneakily and then taking it away to your house. What kind of distress would that cause to the mother? Does she have no mind at all and I don’t know why shes always tried to gain sympathy, but honestly at the end of the day the custody did belong under Edith. In today’s world that would have had her arrested.
Edith shouldn’t have played with Marigold being given to families and then taken away, but it was also very hard for her to just show up at downtown with a child lol.

Edit: I don’t think the drewes were kicked out? Mr. Drewe saw how his wife couldn’t let it go and decided to move himself.

Watching “Agatha Christie’s Marple” and spotted our favorite abbey 😀 I found another episode with both Mrs. Patmore and a young Henry Talbot

Anyone have any theories why Violet believed more in Edith than Robert and Cora? What makes Violet more hopeful when her parents are not? Interestingly, Violet is closest to Mary out of three granddaughters, but doesn't play favorites. We see her supporting all three of her granddaughters.

From the beginning, it's made clear that Robert and Cora don't think Edith has a chance at getting married. That no man will want her. From season 1-3, Cora belittles Edith and Robert ignores her. Only Violet gives Edith any voice of confidence. It is Violet who is the most upset with the idea of Edith marrying Sir Anthony. Robert and Cora don't like it, but are not as upset with it as much as Violet. Ultimately, they don't think Edith can do better than being "an old man's drudge". This is why Robert and Cora give in, rather than reassure Edith that she can do better.

Season 1:

Robert and Cora's Bedroom:

Robert: We never talk about Edith.

Cora: I'm afraid Edith will be the one to take care of us in our old age.

Robert: What a gastly prospect.

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Mary's Bedroom:

Cora: You mustn't be so unkind. She (Edith) has less advantages than you.

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On the stairs after Sybil's first season. Cora congratulates Sybil and calls her a success.

Edith: You never say that to me.

Cora: I don't? Good job.

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Season 2:

Edith is arranging the presents for Matthew and Lavinia's wedding.

Violet: Your time will come.

Edith: Will it? Isn't this what spinsters do? Arrange presents for their prettier relations.

Violet: Don't be so defeatist dear. It's very middle class.

Season 3:

Robert: Out of the three of them, he (Sir Anthony) is the most traditional choice.

Violet: Robert, Edith is beginning her life as an old man's drudge. I shouldn't think a drawing room is much compensation for it.

One of the most emotional exits. Greatly acted

I’m on my 800th rewatch and as much as everyone blames Edith for the way she was talking to Mary before her outburst .. I honestly don’t think it would have went down the way it did if Tom would have left the Henry Talbot issue alone , especially the invite to Downton… I feel like it was one thing after the next with Tom’s pushing , Henry showing up and Edith at the table in the morning was the last straw for Mary and she exploded ..

Because Edith was laughing with Robert? She’s so jealous 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love it when her masks slips off and you see the real her

It would’ve been better to spend that money on testing out the waters for a sequel.

They should not have made the movies, or at least if they really wanted to, it should’ve only been one.
I think the plots were random and felt like fanfiction.
Yk drugging the queens butler, Downton losing all its money again and having it be magically solved yet again, or a film crew shows up and woah maybe Robert’s whole life was a lie….but then it wasn’t. Idk i didnt think they were worth it really.

I think the energy put towards the super goofy movies should’ve gone to a series on the Dowager.
They could’ve done just one season to test the waters.

Like she went to Russia, tried to run away with a man, got dragged out of a carriage by his wife and thrown into a car. And that’s only one of the plots and it’s already extremely interesting. I loved her character she was strong and full of principles but many she seemed to have learnt along the way, she held very traditional views but was also very human so it’d be interesting to see how she came to be like that. Also it sounds like she was gorgeous with a long line of suitors.

So im sure they wouldn’t have lacked creative ideas.

Had stayed together, and Matthew couldn’t have a child, who would inherit Downton is he died without giving Lavinia an heir?

Barrow may have worked his way into Mary's confidence just because they were from the same house. Barrow would have definitely eaten up the chance to be in the middle of that!

EDIT: Damnit, I meant Carson.

They've worked together at the Abbey for probably 30 years and have admittedly developed a close relationship as the most senior members of the servant household.

But..it seems to me that it's only as Mrs Hughes receives another marriage proposal from her farmer beau and Charlie from the Cheerful Charlie's reappears that they suddenly develop romantic feelings for each other.

It's probably not that sudden but just condensed due to the storytelling timeframes but it just seems strange that after so long working so closely together, they've never formed any sort of romantic relationship before they do.

I’m not from England and didn’t grow up in a monarchy country, so I’m also a bit unsure how their differences in age affects their dynamics.

(Watching season 2)