r/atheism • u/KingQuagaar Atheist • Jun 25 '12
What is the penalty for apostasy?
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u/GeordieFaithful Jun 25 '12
What this doesn't show is that Richard Dawkins asked him that question directly about a dozen times before he got an actual response.
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u/iBro53 Jun 25 '12
It's both intriguing and horrifying to watch Muslim women defend the very religion that wants them to have no rights.
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u/xx34x Jun 25 '12
ID cards in gulf countries state the persons religion on them. My parents listed down "muslim" for saftey reasons. When i was born, without consulting my parents, or me, the government listed and labeled me as muslim. I recently tried to change it. I tried to find a lawyer, every single lawyer in the country was too afraid to take the case.
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u/RoquentinTarantino Jun 25 '12
For comparison, how does the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster punish apastasy?
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u/39423984723984792384 Jun 25 '12
Just the IDEA that an organization can issued death threats, just because they call themselves a religion, is tyranny at it's worst. And the actual application of these death threats is pure TERRORISM.
2) The way these people evade the question is a palpable indication of their FEAR.
The man who worships a tyrant in heaven naturally submits his neck to the yoke of tyrants on earth. [George W. Foote, "Flowers of Freethought"]
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u/keeblur Jun 25 '12
It's a little disturbing just how straight of a face he has, like "oh ya, we just kill people who don't believe".
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u/lenojames Jun 25 '12
Criminal Penalties Under SHARIA LAW:
Apostasy: DEATH!
Heresy: DEATH!
Adultery: DEATH!
Homosexuality: DEATH!
Spousal Abuse: Well, if she is unharmed, and there are no marks upon her body, and the couple are both good Muslims, I suppose Allah will forgive both of them.
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u/ErsatzCats Jun 25 '12
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Jun 25 '12
what sounds worse for a believer, just death, or an eternal damnation in a burning hell?
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Jun 25 '12
I like how they say "if its an islamic country"...its like geographical boundaries are the only thing to keep god restricted to a particular zone.
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Jun 25 '12
Well, that'll ruin your day.
"not joining islam? Death."
"joining islam and leaving? Death."
"talking to man in public without a relative present? Misdemeanor stoning."
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u/throwAwayMama123 Jun 25 '12
In my years I have learned that when someone says "to be honest", they're usually lying...
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u/Lazysaurus Jun 25 '12
The Christian Bible also commands apostates be put to death.
Deuteronomy 13:6-9,King James Version (KJV):
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
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Jun 25 '12
I don't understand the madness of religion. It tries so hard to put humans on a level above other animals and yet religion turns humans into housepets quicker than anything I've ever seen.
If you have two cats and you give treats to one and refuse to give the treats to the other one, 2 interesting outcomes typically occur:
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The cat with no treats will try to snuggle up to you to get treats using his love.
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The cat with no treats will attack the other cat for his treat.
Religious people here are the cats, and the god is the human. The actual logical way to respond here would be for the cat that has no treats to get pissed off at the human. Why is the human being an asshole and giving all the treats to one cat? What a fuckhead, asshole, uncaring bastard. Why can't he just give all the cats the same amount of treats? I suppose he's just a dick who prefers white cats over black cats (yes there are racial implications here).
You would think that humans are smarter than cats, but when it comes to this nope. We still hiss at each other in hopes to get each others treats (war) and still think showing the human more love than the other cat (praying harder!) will get us treats. Logically, we should all be pissed off at the human, but when the first cat is sitting there with a full belly and a surplus of treats it's kind of hard to find a reason to fight the human or learn to make your own treats, even though it would save his cat brethren as a whole.
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u/schlottk Jun 25 '12
"apostasy is dealt with the death penalty, but what's the revelance between what happens in an islamic country and Great Britian, I fail to see the connection"
the problems are,
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you see no problem with the death penalty if it happens to be in an islamic country
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YOU WANT TO PUSH SHARIA LAW EVERYWHERE, you are just being roadblocked
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u/gcaliber Jun 25 '12
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