I'm not trying to force anyone to like this show but the things people are saying about this show is over the top .

I know a lot of people are nostalgic for the original so am I but a lot of you need to calm down.

Oh it's not the same it's not supposed to be it's a reboot.

Why didn't they bring back the original characters they're in their 30s what are they supposed to do they all can't be teachers.

Oh but it's cringey all shows at least to an extent.

And for the final " criticism" that people are saying is that trying recreate the characters I'll admit they have similarities but they also have their own personalities.

All I'm saying is relax have fun and don't take things so seriously

My list keeps rotating depending on my mood, but these are my current top 3 fav songs from Victorious:

- Give It Up

- Bad Boy

- Here's 2 Us

See, I wanna ship them, don’t get me wrong. But it just feels wrong and creepy with this hanging over on top of their relationship. I feel like it’s gonna come out in some way if they do address it. I wanna say Robbie wouldn’t tell Trina, but honestly, it would make sense for him to drag it but admit it was “Rex” who cut her gimbal. But also, I feel like they won’t address it because it’s a bit dark. So really, they wrote themselves in a corner. They could’ve gone a different way of adding Robbie to the show without making him a love interest, and with writers, you never know because some writers still have this logic of “they won’t care,” “they won’t remember,” “they won’t address it,” but you can’t do that with a show like Victorious and literally the school and characters it’s based off of. That logic never made sense when we had DVDs and reruns and good memories. It’s just lazy. So I’m hoping either the other half of season 1 addresses it or season 2. Or no matter what people say, this is always gonna be brought up.

Finally getting around to watching the new show and wow it’s just bizarrely worse than the original.

I think it struggles straight off the bat with the lack of strong character tropes, ie the personalities are less strong or animated compared to the original, and the characters often have much less focus on their aspirations than the originals too.

When Tori first goes into Hollywood Arts, everyone around her (main cast) is extremely talented in the areas that they want to go into but with the new show everyone seems both less talented and unsure of their pathway (this may change I’ve not finished the show yet).

The characters all seem so immature too, and the comedy whilst sometimes pretty good is so forced, especially some of the character reactions, which is all so bizarre considering the cast are apparently older than the original.

It's been for over 40 years give or take and they only have five names. I would think they would have had more than five names especially since a number of famous people came from LA granted Kid Rock is from Michigan and Jahmyr Gibbs from Georgia for real. They should ask Snoop and Cameron Diaz if they wanted to be Hollywood Arts alum (they actually went to the same high school together). Also, who were the other two names on the Hall of Fame? I know Robbie Ritchie is Kid Rock, Tori, and Sikowitz. Also, will we see Beck, Andre, Jade, and Cat's name on there?

I would probably read the article for more context if you're not in the loop.

This is a long shot in the dark, but I have vivid memories of an author on fanfiction.net with multiple great Victorious stories that were deleted several years ago, probably around 2020, or thereabouts. I don’t remember the author’s name, but one fic was Cat Valentine centric, titled Be My Saving Grace or something very similar, in which she’s kidnapped from a parking lot and held in a basement with two other girls. There was another series in which Jade has a little sister named Ruby, their father is abusive, and Jade and Beck have a daughter named Sophie as teenagers. I remember one story where Cat and Robbie had a child, but Robbie didn’t know so Cat raised her as a single mother for a few years before Robbie reappeared in her life. I’m sure there were more stories, but those were the main ones I remember.

If anyone can think of anything, has any way of finding these works or has them downloaded, please please help me out.

I know everyone loves cat and Robbie but them being together would not make any sense for multiple reasons the first one being that they were in highschool it's rare when people stay with their highschool sweetheart the second reason is they technically weren't together there were hints that they liked each other but they never made it official and the third reason cat is really childish and I don't mean she's immature no I mean mentally she's childish like 5 Year old level and that's why that relationship would never work

Her team won, she earned it, she deserves it.

Because when Robbie mentions "this girl named Cat" to his students, they don't freak out and say "OMG you knew Cat Valentine??"

And by "Famous" i don't just mean through music-- but acting, social media etc.

Matter of fact, I'm guessing Tori is the only famous character from the original series. Nobody else's name or locker is part of the Wall of Fame. Plus the students only bring up Tori, never Robbie or Trina's other friends/connections from Hollywood Arts

I’m not saying Trina was wrong about the Birthweek song but people spam that opinion so much and act like it’s a controversial thing to say when it is not!

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Before we get into discussions, I would just like to ask one thing... could we all respect one another in this post? If we disagree that's fine, I simply request we do not resort to name calling.

So what are we all thinking of Hollywood Arts? Don't be shy, give your real thoughts.

Personally I gave it a 5, I could be talked into a 5.5, but it didn't live up to its predecessor in my book. When Victorious came out, I was about six years old, and watched it alot, along with ICarly. Partially, because my older sister would never fork over the damn remote, and partially because I grew to enjoy it. But I won't judge it soley by it's first season, when it is still testing the waters.

Having watched the first season, it's not horrible, but it lacks a distinctive voice. Since it's a spinoff, of course it's going to have Victorious's DNA in it. But that overeliance is weakening it, It's too focused on nostalgia and copying it. I mean, I mean look at Qwest, Jen, and Pepper. He's basically a ripoff of Andre, and Pepper is pretty much Cat, and Jen is basically a watered-downed Jade. Emmy, I will admit, I think I might find her more interesting than Tori, not a diss on Tori who I like, but there's more depth to Emmy. Unlike Tori, she had to exist in the shadow of her talented older siblings, and she's coming to terms with the fact she is just as talented then him, if not more so in certain areas.

Oscar's cool, I like that premise because Oscar isn't simply a confident, popular performer. He has to confront what happens when the identity he's built around being exceptional is challenged by someone close to him.

Season One question: Is there something here worth developing? And the first season proved, with difficulty, that there is.

Oscar's cool, I like that premise because Oscar isn't simply a confident, popular performer. He has to confront what happens when the identity he's built around being exceptional is challenged by someone close to him.

Now the first season did, with difficulty, accomplish what the first season of a show is created to accomplish... prove the show is worthy of existing. But everything boils down to if the second can do its job and make the show work.

Assuming the second does what all second seasons of a show should do: recalibrate its characters and start solidifying it's own identity. The characters are watchable, there are decent stories, and there are things worth building on. Season Two question: What makes this show uniquely itself?

Let's use the Big Bang Theory as an example, in the first season, Sheldon acted out of character then in later seasons, such as eating Chinese Food that he put in the trash when he and Leonard had to lie to Penny. Season 9 Sheldon would have bit off his own tongues rather then done that. Penny was a bit more airheaded and sweet, before becoming more grounded, cutting, and street-smart in the later seasons.

If the second season is successful, the creative identity established in Season 2 now drives the storytelling. Character dynamics feel natural and established, original storylines flourish, and the show consistently delivers on its own particular strengths.

The writers aren't still figuring out what the show is supposed to be. They're demonstrating what it can do.

Season Three question: Can this show consistently deliver on its own potential?

Emmy's technology skills and the school's social-media platform, The Dap, could give the show a distinctive perspective on online performance, creative ownership, and the pressure to turn everything into content. The series has already established the platform; the opportunity is to make it matter thematically. Maybe add in another main character. One dedicated to screenwriting and directing, it would be nice to see a main character more intrigued by the prospect of working behind the camera, and working to ensure the production proceeds smoothly.

That last point is especially important. The show doesn't need to abandon its Victorious heritage. It needs to use that heritage as a foundation for stories that couldn't have been told in quite the same way in the original series.

One personal complaint is that just like Victorious, it sets up a romantic payoff only to hold back on delivering it! You already hurt people by not getting Beck and Tori together, stop hurting us in this way! You can't do the platinum music awards, tease us with a kiss twice, not have them get together, and then air the opposite date, thereby bringing up the topic again.

I mean if they didn't get together that's fine, but if you set it up over and over again and then you don't deliver... that's just mean. It's childish, but it's true. Robbie and Trina, it was looking like it was gonna happen only to have the rug swept out from under us at the last moment, because suddenly he's moving to New Zealand.

I think That ’90s Show is a good example of why I’m not judging Hollywood Arts entirely by its first season. When I watched That ’90s Show, I didn’t think the first season was perfect, and I wouldn’t put it on the same level as That ’70s Show, but I still enjoyed it. It was watchable, there was potential, and I could see what the show was trying to accomplish. Then Season 2 came along, and I felt like the series did a much better job establishing its own identity. The characters started feeling more like people I wanted to follow in their own right, rather than just a new generation occupying a familiar setting. It still benefited from the connection to the original, but that connection wasn't the only reason to watch.

That’s what I’m hoping Hollywood Arts can accomplish. I grew up watching Victorious, so of course the nostalgia is part of what got me interested. But nostalgia can only carry a show so far. Eventually, I need Emmy, Oscar, Qwest, Pepper, Jen, and the rest of the cast to give me reasons to care about their stories, their personalities, and their relationships—not just remind me of characters I already loved. I want the new characters to develop distinct identities, with their own strengths, flaws, conflicts, and ambitions, instead of feeling like variations of the original cast. And I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation, especially when a first season is still figuring itself out.

That’s why I’m willing to give Hollywood Arts time. I’m not asking it to be Victorious all over again, or even to surpass it. I’m asking it to learn from what made Victorious work while discovering what makes this new generation worth following. That ’90s Show showed me that a continuation doesn't have to get everything right immediately; it can build on its foundation and become more confident in what it wants to be. I’m hoping Hollywood Arts can do the same: let Season 1 establish the potential, let Season 2 sharpen its identity, and, hopefully, let Season 3 demonstrate what the show can really do. Because nostalgia might get people through the door, but the characters and stories are what will make us want to stay.

I'm hoping to see some organic cameos from legacy characters, and maybe a mention that Tori and Beck got together.

That concludes this post, please give your honest thoughts, but once again, I simply ask for respect to be given between everybody.

I was just watching the original show and I found that they put the “white girl” line back on Paramount+

I don't hate the show as much as some people here...I think it's fun and easy to watch, I binged most of it while doing laundry yesterday lol. I think the acting is on par or even a bit better than most kids/tween shows, the way the teens talk isn't over the top or cringey (at least in my perspective at 28). A lot of the jokes feel self aware, like it's not taking itself too seriously. It's more surface level than the original, but I don't feel like I wasted my time watching it.

But. The names. Please. Qwest and Pepper just have no surnames it seems but....Jen Z? Why would they do that to her 🥲 does their audience actually think that's funny???

Oscar A. Ward and Emmy Ward.....just pain me

I feel like these are interesting characters who I would like to see more depth in if the show continues, but the punny names alone make it seem like it's not interested in being seen as a serious show. It feels like it pokes fun at itself, which is entertaining to watch, but starts to feel like wasted potential.

Edit: I think it would have been interesting if they gave Jen a last name that starts with Z and Trina pokes fun at it during their squabbles about how "she's so Gen Z" and Jen dislikes it and makes a reverse dig at Trina being a millenial. But saying that is her full name with no other information kept pulling me out of the show lol