Compilation of various sources saying the Tic Tac UFO is Lockheed Martin Tech. Rep Burlison, Coulthart, Corbell, Greer

[u/RedPandaKoala]

https://youtu.be/LKHw0_LVYms

The Tic Tac UFO is Lockheed Martin Technology00:00 Ross Coulthart says Tic Tac is Lockheed Technology 01:59 Greer says Tic Tac is Lockheed technology and Fravor knows02:58 Rep Burlison has two sources that say Tic Tac is Lockheed Martin technology04:16 Corbell says the Lockheed Tic Tac story is disinfo

[u/StankiestOne]

Uh... Corbell is clearly saying that the tic tac is NOT Lockheed. Did you even listen to what he said?

[u/aasteveo → u/StankiestOne]

op chose his wording weird, it's a double negative. he said corbell says the story about tik tac being lockheed is dis-info

[u/peternn2412]

You can easily find lots of compilations of various sources saying the world will end in December 2012 because the ancient Maya allegedly predicted it.

'Sources' saying something means absolutely nothing without proof.
There is exactly zero proof that Tic Tac UFO is Lockheed Martin tech.

[u/Sasumas]

Coulthart and Corbell. One of them has conflicting information and is trusting the wrong person.

[u/Justice989]

Has anybody put their name to this claim or had some evidence to back it up? Sounds like a bunch of anonymous sources telling somebody who then regurgitates it with "I was told".

But Corbell and Coulthart are pretty chummy, I'd like to see them discuss this since they have completely different views and heard completely different things.

[u/datoneblackboi]

Remember we've have been seeing tic tak shaped crafts for hundreds of years, ancient paintings have them hidden in the back ground, cave paintings show them, they even turned up in the book of Enoch described as shaped as arrows, they haven't been ours the entire time

[u/3p1ks → u/datoneblackboi]

But what if they were reverse engineered or found and recovered?

[u/Astrocreep_1 → u/datoneblackboi]

Cmon now. We can do better than this to argue these people are full of shit. We don’t need to go back hundreds of years.

If this is true, a receipt should be rather easy, especially compared to proof of anything else in ufology. If you don’t see receipts in a few days, ridicule them, then ignore them.

It’s just slow news day bullshit.

[u/datoneblackboi → u/Astrocreep_1]

That's extremely true, but it's best to remember we've seen them before, because history is written by whoever is left over, lots of people already believe that they are all ours, it's bad to allow people to forget that we've seen them for a long time, because then people put to much power into who ever wants you to believe that, they'll say no aliens aren't real it's been us the whole time and no, no one else can use these except xy&z or even worse classifying it to the point only 27 people actually know where they came from

[u/Usual-Limit6396 → u/datoneblackboi]

Tic tacs shaped as arrows. Hate to break it to you but I don’t know if you know what the word “shape” means.

[u/BA_Baracus916]

I think it's worth noting that we don't even know if the Tic-Tac object was an actual physical object.

It's just as possible it could be some type of hologram or sensor spoofing technology.

[u/MarketStorm]

You were probably in a rush to put this together and publish it, but it's really lacking without the dates these statements were made.

As the video is, it's not as useful as it can be. The dates will clearly show the chronological order of the statements to a viewer without them having to search everywhere online for that (hence the video can stand on its own).

It may become too prohibitive to change as the video gains more popularity.

[u/[deleted]]

Charles Hall also talked about it in one of his interviews... but he went a step further...and indicated it was a collaborative effort between nhi and private aerospace, starting back in the 60s. So you can imagine it would be more streamlined by 2004...

https://youtu.be/-VuEwmJvfw0?si=g5r37tKjEN_Dhmj-

Go to minute 35...

[u/Canusmaximus]

Gee, it’s like the same circle of grifters keep reporting the same claims. UFO lore 101 here

[u/skywalker3819r]

Lockheed would want to benefit from lying about Tic Tac origins because they'd be more likely to get more of the defense budget. Its really that simple

[u/Snoo-26902]

I wonder has Lockheed Martin commented on this or has been asked about this. I imagine they would deny it.

Now we have the UFO community divided on this. Has Mullen, or Elizondo, two big supporters of the NIMITZ video provenance as a UAP, with some of the 5 observables, made any comment on this?

Lately, we've had some real counter information to the orthodox beliefs within the disclosure movement. Interesting.

[u/aasteveo]

I find it hard to believe that for some reason they would keep it a secret for 20 years & never use it for anything instead of revolutionizing multiple industries and instantly becoming trillionaires as well as dominating the world market in aerospace & travel while boosting the country into a giant world power. Why? cuz they have an nda? not allowed to use any advanced tech because it would cause public panic? gtfo

[u/[deleted]]

What about the times it was spotted before they existed?

[u/[deleted]]

I dunno, I’m seeing a sudden big push from “members” here suddenly pushing real hard that the tictac is Lockheed.

I don’t buy it.

[u/Dontledgeme]

Than why can jake barber summon them?

[u/[deleted]]

So the triangle is Russian and the Orbs, Chinese then?

[u/Kat-from-Elsweyr]

Bullsheeeeeet is it human tech. They humans excel at lying about shit and covering shit up.

[u/--1--0--3--]

it it was from lockheed , why are they harassing the navy?
Doesnt make sense

[u/Historical-Camera972]

I believe the 2004 Nimitz event was of manmade objects.

None of the outrageous details have enough corroboration, and the behavior of certain government entities and branches, after this event went public to Congress was... Of suspicious caliber.

Issues in the open:

1. Who made the CAP Point claim to Fravor? (I have never seen anyone answer that question, at best you find someone told him that over the radio, speculation of who it may have been, Underwood, Day, or an unnamed radio operator. The problem with that, is that it's automatically second hand from the get go, with no source providence.)

2. No. The Tic Tac did NOT require 5000GW of energy. That "scientific publication" used an assumed mass, meaning they pulled the 1000kg estimate from thin air. You can throw the rest of their calculations for the Nimitz object right out, built off a guess.

3. The most anomalous information that has solid corroboration was altitude change. 80,000 to sea level in less than 1 second. (Personal issues I have with this, is that we don't have that data, just Kevin Day's testimony. I do trust Kevin Day, to have reported the information as he viewed it. However, Kevin Day also testified that there were MANY of these objects present for days leading up to the event. Meaning without that radar data to directly analyze, it leaves open that these could have been two separate objects, and not necessarily the same single object pulling that maneuver.)

Suspicious behavior?

NORAD , who should, by their duties and responsibilities that we pay tax dollars for, were 100% REQUIRED to have recorded the radar tracks for these objects. (Within NORAD's envelope for 2 minute identification requirements, which have been in place since at least 1993. Objects reported to be within 100 miles of US coast. NORAD 1993, 2 minute window for identification begins at 120 miles out, per 1993 requirements.) NORAD made no effort to make statements after Fravor Congressional testimony. NORAD is also immune to FOIA. AKA NORAD knows, and shared nothing with the greater public. (Big flag for classified US operation, and NOT unknown visitors, in my opinion.)

[u/[deleted] → u/Historical-Camera972]

You don’t question when and how Lockheed discovered anti gravity craft?