r/ShingekiNoKyojin • u/Freddsreddit • Feb 06 '22

New Episode Is Eren justified? Spoiler

Would love to hear thoughts.

Personally I absolutely think so, if the entire world wants you dead and you literally only have one weapon to defend yourself, use it. Just because its a billion vs thousands, numbers doesnt matter, who is right is what matters

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u/Sorstalas Feb 06 '22

No, omnicide is not the appropriate retribution to oppression.

And it's not like the declaration of war Willy Tybur did was a democratic vote by the world's populace to exterminate Paradis. It was a conspiracy by the wealthy elites to increase Marley's standing among the other nations and secure resources for them. Targeting the population of these nations, who are likely also controlled by authoritarian governments and propaganda is not "justice".

Plus, there's the matter of him hating and wanting to kill the other Eldians living in the various nations outside of Paradis. It's not like they chose to be born into the Ghettos instead of on Paradis.

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u/Freddsreddit Feb 06 '22

But the entire world just agreed to exterminate paradis, doesn’t matter how tybur did it

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u/Paralaxien Feb 06 '22

No he isn’t, are the lives of thousands of Eldian civilians worth more than millions of other civilians? Not a chance.

The rumbling is a brute force method of surviving. The founding titan is quite powerful, and there’s probably better things you could do.

You could share memories between Eldians, and teach them how to be strong, carve out a space of their own using a few titans.

Make requests of the world Governments to release Eldians in camps, and start a real country that draws its strength from human tools.

Eren rumbling is still going to be awesome though, can’t wait to see it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

No, and it should be obvious? If your murderer lives in a town do you nuke the country he lives in? Its insane that anyone is even entertaining the idea that genocide is correct. Eren is the unfortunate product of Marleys oppression, its 100% marleys fault for creating a monster like eren but thats what he is. A monster

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u/Freddsreddit Feb 08 '22

Except that everyone in the town supports the murderer and wants him to kill you, and they won’t stop until it’s done. Absolutely nuke it

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u/Neith_Mac_Balor Apr 17 '23

Depends on what type of justification you're looking for.

Morally justified? No.

Tactically justified? Perhaps. In an actual us vs. them premise, the most effective way to win against an enemy is to render them utterly unable to ever be a threat to you in the future, for all time. The only way to achieve that is to thoroughly eradicate all of your enemies until none of them exist or will exist. The threat would then be perpetually neutralized. Clean, effective, final. It's not a moral justification by any means, it's a purely robotic and rote one. To attempt to justify this, one has to throw morality out of consideration altogether.

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u/TestosteronInc Feb 06 '22

Well he is justified in the rumbling in my opinion. However the very last speech he gave? No he's going way too far.

Sure flatten their militaries

Sure cripple their economies

But killing EVERYONE? No. Just no.

Once you're in a position of strength you don't need to kill them anymore. You can force them to the negotiating table and lead them towards a peaceful coexistence

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u/Patis12 Feb 06 '22

You have to think that there are millions of people just going to work every day trying to mind their own business and all of a sudden they have to deal with giant humanoids stomping them. I'd say those people wouldn't call it justice. However I totally get Eren's feeling

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u/Freddsreddit Feb 06 '22

Except that those people spit on the mere thought of eldians, and would kill them personally if given the option

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