r/homeland • • Apr 19 '20

Discussion Homeland - 8x11 "The English Teacher" - Episode Discussion

Season 8 Episode 11: The English Teacher

Aired: April 19, 2020


Synopsis: Saul backchannels. Carrie needs one more favor.


Directed by: Michael Cuesta

Written by: Patrick Harbinson & Chip Johannessen

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u/nafafonafafofo Mar 14 '22

Was sauls voiceover on Corey Matthew’s really necessary?

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u/moonlightscorpion Apr 29 '24

i thought the same damn thing.. corey looked enough like saul for people to make the assumption..

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u/alaskawaters7 Apr 26 '20

Don’t understand why Saul would have to die, why doesn’t Carrie just tell him? While she is in NYC, Saul can put her into witness protection. Give the Kremlin her name, get the black box and she is safe. That might be a simplistic view of a plan haha but I bet Saul would have a good idea if she included him.

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u/alaskawaters7 Apr 26 '20

Don’t understand why Saul would have to die, why doesn’t Carrie just tell him? While she is in NYC, Saul can put her into witness protection. Give the Kremlin her name, get the black box and she is safe. That might be a simplistic view of a plan haha but I bet Saul would have a good idea if she included him.

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u/samuelson098 Apr 26 '20

I'm gonna call it and say this whole season is a carrie hallucination while still in Russian captivity

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u/SorenLi Apr 27 '20

Would make more sense than most of what happened this season.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

This isn’t a 8th grade creative writing assignment.

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u/zenkei18 Apr 25 '20

So the new prevailing theory that I have heard and makes sense to me somewhat is that Carrie defects to Russia in exchange for the Blackbox. I would hate that but honestly I wouldn't be beyond it at this point.

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u/utbhatti Apr 27 '20

That’s what I’ve anticipated since the beginning of the season. That she may have to as a last resort, whether to escape her charges or to retrieve the black box. I can’t imagine the show writers want to end with Carrie defecting.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20

I call it now, before this episode airs tonight at 12:01AM, I predict Carrie will sacrifice her life for the black box and in the end, ultimately be vindicated, à la Brody, at season three’s finale.

https://youtu.be/E5-lu-Ovi9c

Hopefully, Saul draws a star, on the CIA’s Memorial Wall, to signify her spiritual and literal sacrifice; as she’s has earned it.

Then, per Showtime’s contract agreement, he’ll exiles to woods and become a lumberjack ..😁 J/K, maybe...

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u/MindyP51 May 20 '20

Actually, Carrie DID sacrifice her life. Think about it.

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u/robbyc777 Apr 24 '20

Can’t believe this show is coming to an end. I don’t know how it’s going to end. I fear either Carrie or Saul dies, more likely Carrie, as she has stated before that everyone she loves dies and she will sacrifice her life for the truth this time to spare the life of Saul.

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u/pulse_trilmm May 21 '26

not quite. quite the opposite. would have preferred your proposal except her dying.

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u/crashnandicoot Apr 24 '20

THERE'S ONLY ONE HOUR LEFT??! surely it's a two hour episode!!!!!!! No?!

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u/Mastercone Apr 24 '20

1 hour and 10 minutes.

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u/boilerroomcaller Apr 24 '20

idk but this show is getting even more ridiculous.

Carry was detained for over 10 charges including conspiracy to murder with russians and terrorists, yet she can just walk and drive around freely? She isnt even under surveillance.

Why the fuck wouldnt she talk to saul. Its literally multiple thousands of lifes against one informant.

But then again, carrie should have been AT LEAST slapped across her face multiple times for all of her fuck ups, if not straight up fired and never be allowed near any operation at all.

Season 1 and 5 were super strong but season 8 is a shit show with this george w bush dummy doppelgaenger and his stupid advisor

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u/toxicbrew Mar 10 '22

Also, the National Security Advisor lives in suburbia without security. Which I think is actually true in most cases. I wonder if he takes the Metro in to work.

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u/MindyP51 May 20 '20

You said: Carry (CarrIE) was detained for over 10 charges...yet she can just walk around and drive around freely?"

Yeah, that's the part I don't get.

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u/utbhatti Apr 27 '20

I died when I dead George Bush. He’s incompetent and his advisor is like a manchild just trying to live his grade school dream of war and violence and masculinity.

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u/toxicbrew Mar 10 '22

The stupid advisor is definitely a John Bolton. Always wanting to fight a war with someone.

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u/Rogojinen May 05 '20

Talking about George W. Bush, I loved the irony of Jalal, another warmonger diving head first into an avoidable conflict, using his line "You're either with me or against me" earlier in the season, talking to Haqqani's right hand man

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u/SawRub Apr 26 '20

What?! Once Brody died this show has just kept getting better! This has been the best season in a long time.

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