r/TheGoodPlace • Change can be scary but I’m an artist. It’s my job to be scared. • Jan 17 '20

Season Four S4E11 Mondays, Am I Right?

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Shallow comment, but I am loving Vicky’s hair in this episode. Like possibly best hair of the whole series‽

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u/stonedsour Jan 17 '20

Something about her in this episode! I always thought she was pretty, but in this episode I was like wow she’s realllllly pretty

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Her whole outfit was pretty much fire. Those heels!

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u/Missfoot Jan 17 '20

She was rocking those heels! Those some tall sons of benches too

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u/NDaveT Jan 17 '20

You could even say she's a stone cold fox.

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u/stonedsour Jan 17 '20

*acid snake 😉

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u/shadybaby22 Jan 17 '20

I wonder if she's now an improved version of herself after the demon version of a reboot, being turned into goo and reformed.

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u/HotSauceHigh Jan 18 '20

My guess is the cleavage.

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u/headee Jan 22 '20

She definitely lost 10-20 pounds. She looked great before but now she’s drop dead.

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u/JulioCesarSalad Jan 17 '20

Her chongo was perfect in the workout clothes

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

It was like what I try to make my hair look like with a sock bun, but actually successful, lol.

But I was in love with her loose hair style. Or semi-loose anyway, she had it styled partially up on one side with lots of height and big sexy curls, yum.

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u/Zan_92 Jan 17 '20

Vicky may have out-hotted everyone in this episode. I need to know how they did that teased side swoop thing with her hair!!!

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u/WallsAreOverrated Jan 18 '20

It was like what I try to make my hair look like with a sock bun, but actually successful, lol.

Oh so chongo is not what I think it is

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u/exaltedbladder Jan 17 '20

I, too, liked her chongos in workout clothes

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u/JustSomeHeroKid Jan 17 '20

I love that you used "chongo" instead of ponytail!! <3

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u/JulioCesarSalad Jan 17 '20

Chongo actually means bun in Spanish! Ponytail would be “colita”

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u/DMorrin15 Jan 17 '20

I've always had a crush on Tiya Sircar, but in this episode, man she was really doing it for me.

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u/Benevolent1 Jan 17 '20

This episode actually caused me to look her up on IMDB and I was stunned to find out that she was the voice of Sabine Wren in Star Wars Rebels. I think I'm in love!

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u/unaetheral Jan 25 '20

You sound like Eleanor lol.

Not that i disagree.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

Shallow comment, but Tiya Sircar is gorgeous, and very talented. I hope that she finds some great roles after TGP is done.

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u/AdhesivenessOk7573 Sep 28 '25

Facts, she absolutely mogged poor Tahani there in the black outfit

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u/wizard7926 Jan 17 '20

Is that an interrobang, you wonderful person‽‽

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

It is my very favorite punctuation mark, why isn’t it used more often‽

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u/akreeves Jan 18 '20

Is that part of what makes her such a good demon? She’s like that girl who works down the hall from you with perfect hair, but mentions that “it’s SO easy” and she “basically wakes up with it.”

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u/WandersFar Jan 18 '20

Oh wow, that is very specific and very relatable!

Kind of like Vicky’s scenario for Tahani. Maybe she really is the best demon.

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u/ChelsMe Jan 17 '20

Legit snack

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u/MxTeryG Jan 22 '20

It was more than "barely cascading down her shoulders" ;)

Eleanor + Tahani = "Real Eleanor" ;)

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u/leifyfae Jan 18 '20

Don't let Tahani hear you!

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u/phasmy Jan 20 '20

Glad she was un-gooed. She's a great character.

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Busty Alexa vs Alexa. The showdown we never knew we needed.

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u/iListen2Sound Jan 25 '20

A bit late since I just managed to watch the episode but you mean like this?

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u/WandersFar Jan 25 '20

That was a lot more amiable than I imagined.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

Would that be Janet's form of torture? I know it makes her feel dirty...

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u/cool_girl321 Jan 17 '20

I wonder if they are gonna add that as a bonus scene. It seems too funny of an interaction for them not to show us.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Mods can I PLEASE get "🐍Strong Independent Acid Snake🐍" as a flair option?!

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

You can make your flair say whatever you want.

Just click on the Edit button next to your username in the sidebar, choose Vicky in this case, and then in the text box write “Strong Independent Acid Snake” or anything else you like and click Save.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

I figured it out!

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

I changed your picture to Vicky so your quote matches your flair.

(You had the 14 oz ostrich steak impaled on a pencil previously. :)

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

(Thanks from your friendly neighborhood acid snake)

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

OH SHIT IT ME.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

How did you do that?

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u/Lukey2k5 Jan 17 '20

I second this

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u/emretoe Jan 17 '20

I third this

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

did you really comment 51 times here (yes i counted them)

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

In this thread? Probably?

Also, not sure if I should be proud or offended...?

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u/PM_ME_TEA_PICS Jan 17 '20

snake gang what up!

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Speaking as an Elehani shipper, Chidi’s criticism of his relationship “I’m too boring for her,” is pretty dead-on for why I’m meh on the ship.

I mean, it’s fine, it’s obviously endgame, and it makes 90% of the fans happy. But I prefer Eleanor with Tahani because they do have that tension and challenge and excitement. They complement each other while still having to work for it, whereas Cheleanor (esp in this episode) is too Hallmark for me. Too much sweet.

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u/ChipmunkNamMoi Jan 18 '20 edited Jan 18 '20

I feel the same way about Cheleanor. I loved them in Season 1, they were the couple I was rooting for, but after that it felt forced. Like they were designated to be together when the only season they felt organic was season 1.

Maybe because Eleanor's forced "You have to love me because we were in love in one reboot!" in Season 3 left a bad taste in my mouth, but I've soured on their scenes. They have some good moments, like reboot 119 and the memories Michael shows them, but aside from that I'm just bored of their romance. The couple has potential, but I personally don't like the execution.

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u/WandersFar Jan 18 '20

Exactly.

I was into it in S1, there was tension and uncertainty, but in later seasons it’s just felt like a foregone conclusion so their scenes bore me, frankly.

Plus they’ve turned into the Ross & Rachel of the series. Practically every season has ended in a “Will they or won’t they?” Meh. Hard pass.

The relationships I think work best are the ones that are rooted in strong, unlikely contrasts.

  • “Angel” and “Demon” (Janet & Michael)

  • “Genius” and “Dumbash” (Chidi & Jason)

  • “High Society” and “Arizona Trashbag” (Tahani & Eleanor)

Because they’re so fundamentally opposite, there will always be some tension there, and that’s the challenge the characters need to move beyond their archetypes and grow into more interesting people.

With Chidi & Eleanor, the tension was largely external. Oh no, she doesn’t belong here, we have to keep her hidden and teach her ethics. But once that threat was revealed to be a lie, and Eleanor actually began to enjoy learning philosophy… where is the tension? On Chidi’s end, his struggle has always been his indecision, which has been totally done away with now. They’ve become so much like each other that there’s nowhere for the drama to go.

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u/ChipmunkNamMoi Jan 18 '20

I'd also throw in Michael and Eleanor as best friend soulmates. Their bond is more interesting to me because while they are similar in personality, they have an unlikely friendship--ones a demon charged with torturing the other, the others constantly thwarting and challenging the demon. And their relationship has continued to have these weird ups and downs where they recognize the flaws in each other that helps get them through their issues.

Chidi and Eleanor kind of had that in season 1, when their personalities and differences were more stark, but its getting boring in the later seasons.

Also, it's really really forked up that Eleanor basically coerces him into a relationship when they are Janet's. "Say you love me or Janet's void will collapse!" That's not cute it's manipulative. The whole subplot could've been handled so much better.

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u/Redd2d Jan 17 '20

Maybe if it developed earlier on. The hints weren't enough to actually build a foundation for them, if they do it now just anti fan service, and some people might view it as pandering.

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u/lookoutnorthamerica Jan 17 '20

Knowing how the show seems to be actually willing to surprise us, I would absolutely LOVE Schur if he decides to end Chidi and Eleanor as friends (even though that definitely wouldn't happen)

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u/daynewmah Jan 17 '20

Performative Wokeness Department. Love it.

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

I think this was the most underrated joke of the episode.

I really appreciate the writers throwing that in, too. Like this season has been particularly heavy on the SJW bandwagon, I’m glad they’re pointing out that virtue signalling and self-aggrandizing of all kinds is a total Bad Place move.

It reminds me of the pilot, where being vegan earns you some points, but more importantly shutting up about it unless specifically asked earns you even more points than being vegan in the first place.

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u/thenewsintern Jan 17 '20

When he said you triggered me, I died

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u/Jealous_Water Jan 23 '20

Yesss. I came here looking for this comment specifically! I can’t believe I had to scroll this far to see it. Best joke in the series in while.

“C’mon buddy! I personally chose you based on your innovative work in the Performative Wokeness Department.”

“Wow. Way to mansplain my own department to me. Aaaand I’m triggered.”

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u/coscorrodrift Jan 18 '20

Brilliant touch, these writers know what they're doing

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wasn’t Vicky gooified? Am I remembering that wrong?

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u/overchargext Jan 17 '20

I think Michael said the demon regeneration process takes a few months. It's probably been long enough by now.

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u/WandersFar Jan 17 '20

Chidi/Jason is low-key my favorite Chidi ship. Jason’s like Chidi’s spiritual guru, his sensei, which is just funny. Unlikeliest bros ever. :þ

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u/daynewmah Jan 17 '20

"Classic us" gave me a good laugh.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Jason is, and has always been, the ultimate pinch hitter of knowledge / wisdom dropping.

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u/lovetheblazer Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Michael: Pushing the rock up the hill gave me purpose. Who am I if the rock’s gone?

Tahani: Ironically, that’s exactly what Vin Diesel asked me when Dwayne Johnson refused to appear in The Fast and the Furious 9.

Michael: ...

Tahani: Not helpful? Copy that.

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u/RonSpawnsonTP Jan 17 '20

I burst out laughing at that one, the timing was spot on

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u/Shiny_and_ChromeOS Jan 17 '20

Not just the timing, but her furtive side-eye glances right after. Jameela's physical comedy is brilliant, considering she'd never acted before this show.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

Michael's "Who am I if the rock's gone?" was vaguely reminiscent of Shawn's "Who are we without twisting?"

Both of them were holding on to something they loved and were upset at the thought of losing it.

Then I started thinking about losing TGP and now I'm sad :(

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u/TheSpongetastic Jan 17 '20

This was funny but I can't help but feel it doesn't make sense. Tahani died well before Fast and Furious 9 would have been in production.

I know it's a joke and obviously it's a fictional character talking about fictional events, just feels forced.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Maybe that happened during her time on Earth in s3? The Rock stated he was unsure he'll appear in F&F9 back in April 2018, and season 3 happened in October of that year.

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20

It reminded me of when later seasons of Futurama referenced celebrities that existed after Fry got frozen.

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u/TheNerdChaplain Jan 17 '20

Yeah, it's amazing. They turned an in-depth reference to Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus into a timely joke about the Rock and Vin Diesel in Fast and Furious.

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u/BananerRammer Jan 17 '20

I don't get it. What does Camus have to do with the Sisyphus myth?

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u/Serraph105 Jan 17 '20

Michael:

Pushing the rock up the hill gave me purpose. Who am I if the rock’s gone?

A lot of people are left with that question upon retirement or job loss. They have to find new meaning in their lives after the thing they felt gave them purpose is no longer there.

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u/MarcReyes Jan 17 '20

When this show ends, it's gonna be like flattening the penis of my heart.

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u/Captain_Rex_501 Jan 17 '20

Ohhh now it makes sense

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u/atiredonnie Jan 17 '20

You see, the bears with chainsaws, were the pain I felt knowing this show was coming to a close all along. That was the metaphor.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

Watching The Good Place gave us a purpose. Who are we without The Good Place?

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u/TheNerdChaplain Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 18 '20

They really leaned hard on that joke this episode, but it worked out.

Plus, I think it would have been really easy to make Vicky in control of the project Michael's Bad Place, but they didn't go that route.

Jason was uncharacteristically smart this episode, but I don't care. When Chidi said that he only needed that to be true to stay with Janet, I shouted "Oh, fuck you, Chidi!" I admit I got played.

Now I just want to know why happens to Shawn. Is he over Vicky, or what is he going to do? His ick reaction to working together was gold.

Also, Bad Janet calling the black guy Skin Check was way edgier than I expected. More so than "blowing beefeaters" from Trevor in S3. (Edit: she said skin tags, not skin check.)

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u/lostleader Jan 17 '20

Jason has always been good with interpersonal relationships, so I don't think it was uncharacteristic, he just sounded slightly smarter.

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u/maryummy Jan 17 '20

I think she called them "skin tags".

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u/MarcReyes Jan 17 '20

Jason's been unexpectedly helpful a lot this season. I think it's some great, subtle display of character growth

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20

Not smart, but wise, hes more of a low int high wisdom

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u/EntheogenicTheist Jan 18 '20

I'm so scared. Everything seems perfect at the end of this episode, so what terrible thing is going to happen that justifies another 90 minutes of programming. With a bittersweet ending apparently.

I really hope it's not that bad.

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

Jason proves he's the most emotionally intelligent of the Soul Squad.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

He always has been. I love that they're giving him so much heart this season. He's honestly my favorite character now.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

Makes it super ironic that he fell for a robot haha

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20

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u/wordybee Jan 18 '20

I don't think it's so much a "secret" genius as having a different area of genius. He's good with emotions: understanding them, understanding why people have them, understanding how to make a bad emotion a good emotion. He's done the "getting the gist of the situation and boiling it all down into easily understood, emotion-fueled fundamentals" thing more than once.

Also -- Romeo and Juliet? Very emotions-focused story. It fits.

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u/lovetheblazer Jan 17 '20

“I hope it’s not more sexual harassment training. We just did that... and I’m already so good at it!”

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u/steveofthejungle Jan 17 '20

As soon as he said that I knew the punchline was gonna be something like that lol

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u/mknsky Jan 19 '20

I half expected him to follow up with "Let's go, toots."

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u/AGRooster Jan 18 '20

Carl Tart is an awesome actor and improviser

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u/jesus_fn_christ Jan 18 '20

I knew I recognized his voice! He crushed it this episode. Fan favorite for sure.

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u/eyeaim2missbehave Jan 19 '20

Scott! I’m coming in H O T !

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u/benchcoat Jan 18 '20

Happy we got Carl Tart, but bummed that we just barely got him now

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u/Evsd62 Jan 17 '20

There's something fishy about that ending. It's too easy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

It does seem fishy, but also this show hasn't made residents of The Good Place seem fun. It may be boring, annoying, unnerving or something like that. Or just what's the point if there aren't any challenges. Like Shawn being bored with his butthole spiders after feeling content intially.

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u/freetherabbit Jan 17 '20

So next weeks episode recap on Comcast is basically describing the plot of The Good Place, which I've totally seen happen before except the next one says "Various conversations occur, between various groups of people.". Which makes me wonder if the shows description also works for next episode.

The full thing says: "When Eleanor Shellstrop finds herself in the afterlife, shes both relieved and surprised that shes made it into the Good Place. But it doesnt take long for Eleanor to realize shes there by mistake -- and she'll have to change her ways to stay"

Which at first kinda made me wonder if she'll (and possibly the whole group) just feel like The Good Place is too perfect and be bored and realize if they're going to stay they need to find a purpose or something. But then I realized that them getting into "The Good Place" without taking a test was to throw them off that they were starting their own test. Especially because they made a point this episode to point out that the humans wont know they're taking a test and since our 4 helped create the system that's pretty hard to do without mind wiping them. So the description might be a hint that were getting a throw back to the original point. And maybe that was Michael's new thing, making the OG 4's test.

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u/HuffThunderbird Jan 17 '20

I kept waiting for some cliff hanger to happen. it was too happy of an ending!

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u/JoshIsJoshing Jan 17 '20

I think the ending is the cliffhanger...cause that was suspicious.

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u/ghostwriter623 Jan 17 '20

AND WHY DID MICHAEL LOOK SO WORRIED???!!! Yes, I realize I’m yelling and probably irrational

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u/Skittlit Jan 17 '20

My theory is Michael is getting retired. I wrote a thing somewhere in this massive post. I didn't realise that Michael looked worried but it helps my theory.

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u/Kokiomot Jan 17 '20

Absolutely, something doesn't feel right about this. And was it just me or did Michael look sad when Janet mentioned finding him a new task?

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u/Orisi Jan 17 '20

He WOULD be the only person suited to testing the four of them. He knows what he already threw at them, and it's kind of giving them a fairer weighting because he's most likely to know how to bring out the best of them, but he's still a bad place designer.

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u/Double2k Jan 17 '20

Exactly what I'm thinking right now. Potentially vicky was playing michael and that balloon is bout to go to like a reserved torture hell? prob not but still, too easy.

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u/wisebloodfoolheart Jan 17 '20

Oh damn, I forgot about the Michael suit.

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u/Seedy88 Jan 17 '20

Jason yelled "Foles"! Should we tell him?

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u/HuffThunderbird Jan 17 '20

the poor show writers couldn’t keep up with the Jags QB situation no matter how hard they tried

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u/electricityisout Jan 17 '20

Yeah surprised they didn’t edit over the Foles with a “MINSHEWWW”

I’m a die hard Jags fan and man Foles was absolutely horrible for us but Minshew is bae

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

I’m sure you will embrace whoever is your QB in a 12 months as well

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u/The_Minshow Jan 17 '20

Would have been cool, Minshew Mania was fun.

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u/joecb91 Jan 17 '20

They even added a reference to Foles getting hurt a few episodes ago, they could've dubbed him yelling "Minshew!!!" in there

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u/dominickster Jan 18 '20

I'm still holding out hope for a Minshew shoutout in one of the last episodes.

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u/Raktoner Jan 17 '20

MINSHEEEEWWWWWWWW

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u/niknok007 Jan 17 '20

And this is why Jason shoulda just stuck with classic Bortles

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u/Ashley2007 Jan 21 '20

That’s what he yelled?? Oh. I thought he just randomly yelled “Balls!” And was lost but also it’s Jason so I accepted it

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

Don't you dare

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u/maatttxd Jan 22 '20

Also Jason hasn't been on Earth. He doesn't know of the situation, he's sticking with what he knows.

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u/happinesswithaclick Jan 17 '20

All right, we’ve seen Vicky; now where’s Glen?

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u/flintlock0 Jan 17 '20

Probably not quite to the “creepy little girl” stage of his rebirth.

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u/Galveira Jan 17 '20

Disagree. He's probably on "Social Media CEO".

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u/sunmachinecomingdown Jan 18 '20

I thought he got gooed before Vicky tho

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u/Lepidopteria Jan 17 '20

Shut UP glenn

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u/CaptainJZH Jan 17 '20

Maybe some demons reform faster than others?

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u/Katoschka Jan 17 '20

People kept mentioning that Michael smelled bad, and Michael was still wearing the same suit that Glenn exploded all over. I figure Bad Janet had been a little lazy in her clean up efforts and parts of Glenn were still clinging to the clothes/furniture. So maybe he was waiting to reform until those bits had made their way back to him.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

He was goo-ified later, wasn't he? Maybe he's still in the CEO stage?

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u/happinesswithaclick Jan 17 '20

Maybe, but Vicky was gooed after him, so he should be back in one piece.

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u/Raktoner Jan 17 '20

JASON KNOWS ROMEO AND JULIET

JASON ACCURATELY MADE A ROMEO AND JULIET METAPHOR

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u/ch0k3 Jan 17 '20

He's read some books!

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u/Olddirtychurro Jan 17 '20

He sounded so fed up when he said it though. Like he was really done with ppl thinking he is devoid of any knowledge.

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u/themanfromoctober Jan 19 '20

That was kinda the same joke from El Chamino

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u/NeedsToShutUp Jan 17 '20

He’s watched the movie version with Leo on a date.

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u/Levicorpyutani Jan 17 '20

And it's surprisingly accurate, plus Paul Rudd is in it too what's not to love?

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u/AgentKnitter Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 18 '20

Mama was a high school teacher. She loved Baz Luhrmann’s film of R+J because it gave a new, fun way to teach Shakespeare. She liked to use it as a reward - cap off the unit on R+J by watching the new film, after starting it with the old Zafarelli men in tights stage play (Not my favourite strategy, but ... you do you Ma.)

Not all of the kids she taught were destined for great things. As Terry Pratchett would describe it in a Susan book, she had some Jasons. (Not TGP Jason. A different, but also similar Jason.) This particular Jason asked her halfway through the film “When are they gonna get on the big boat Miss?”

“Sorry... what?”

“You know. The big boat wot sinks.”

“.... UM. We’ve been studying this play for about 5 weeks. We’ve watched a film version of the stage play. Did you see a big boat that sinks in that?”

“No. But this guy. He’s in the film with the big boat wot sinks. So ... when they gonna sink?”

This was more or less the point where Mama decided “Oh fuck this, I’m retiring....”

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u/mujie123 Jan 17 '20

Didn't the Capulets and Montagues make up after Ruliet's death though or something?

Short, it was double smart from Jason.

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u/AgentKnitter Jan 17 '20

A glooming peace this morning with it brings. The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head. Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things. Some shall be pardoned, and some punishèd. For never was a story of more woe Than this of Juliet and her Romeo.

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u/phasmy Jan 20 '20

He reads! He's grown too powerful.

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u/Malkkum Jan 17 '20

Chainsaw Bear is my new favorite character.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

Monday's, am I right?

He is SO relatable. He even likes bacon.

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u/adedward Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

I prefer the smaller, more relatable chainsaw bear.

The cameo by the magic panda in the last scene was also a nice touch.

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u/someguyfromtheuk Jan 17 '20

magic panda

I noticed the panda but didn't get the reference. Is it from a previous episode?

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u/raisethecurtain Jan 17 '20

Niednagel must have had fun with him! Both sizes lol

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u/opermonkey Jan 20 '20

I love how the podcast uses Niednagel or Niednageled as a verb.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

Yes

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

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u/S-WordoftheMorning Jan 17 '20

Legit snack.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

I love Vicky.

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u/5ubbak Jan 17 '20

acid snek > fire squid

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u/2000ablenderoddyssey Jan 19 '20

petition for strong independent acid snake flair?

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '20

came here for this!

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u/Katoschka Jan 17 '20

Turning control over to Vicky is Michael's most selfless act since the portal scene.

I hope he finds another job.

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u/HuffThunderbird Jan 17 '20

he’s better today than he was yesterday.

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u/RoseRedd Jan 17 '20

I think he is going to run the Pretty Good Place, a new neighborhood in Good Place for all of the newly accepted people.

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u/MiddleSchoolisHell Jan 17 '20

I theorized weeks ago that Michael is going to live a human life. He’s been on a hero’s journey. His quest is fulfilled. Getting to live as a human will be his reward. I think that’s going to be the “bittersweet” ending.

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u/AlecBaldwinner Jan 17 '20

It's been 1.28 Jeremy Bearimy already?

Shoot. I gotta pick up my kids!

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u/happinesswithaclick Jan 17 '20

Oh no, oh no, oh no. I just went back and rewatched the episode again... right at the end as Chidi gets on the balloon Michael grimaces. Not good.

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

So maybe this is a lie and Michael knows and feels bad because he's sick of running these four humans through tests they're not allowed to pass?

Or maybe they are going to the Good Place, but Michael -- as a demon, even if he's a reformed one -- isn't sure of how he'll be received when he gets there. Oh no! What if this is like a suicide mission for Michael, seeing his humans finally make it into the Good Place as his last act before being Retired by Good Place personnel?!

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Once on Earth I didn't know something and I had to ask Alexa. I felt... dirty.

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u/whyenn Jan 17 '20

Hey! I know you! You're that strong independent acid snake I've seen everywhere!

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u/howlongtillchristmas Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

"I was being stupid, and Jason gave me some really good advice"

"Classic us"

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u/AlecBaldwinner Jan 17 '20

"I read some books."

I love that Jason truly has these hidden depths.

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u/pretty-in-pink Jan 17 '20

Imagine the writers going up to VFX just to make that chainsaw bear

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20

They had fun with the tiny one.

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u/CloudyDaze09 Jan 17 '20

You know Marc is bringing it up first chance he gets on the podcast.

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u/BogeyBogeyBogey Jan 17 '20

Chainsaw bear (big and small, especially wearing that shirt) better be a plushie I can purchase by the 2020 holiday season. I'll pay extra for a push button paw with all its voice lines.

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u/lovetheblazer Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Jason Mendoza’s List of the Best People Who Ever Lived:

  • Evel Knievel

  • Kool-Aid Man

  • DJ Jazzy Jeff

  • Wendy from Wendy’s

  • Mini-Me

  • Fat Bastard

  • The World’s Most Interesting Man

  • Pikachu

  • Karate Kid

  • Grumpy Cat

  • The GPS lady who tells you where to drive

  • A genie (so we can wish for infinity people)

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u/Malkkum Jan 17 '20

Don’t forget Wendy from Wendy’s.

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

You forgot Jason himself. Throw him in there!

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Vicki? I thought I got rid of you! And now you're coming through the door unexpectedly!

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u/raisethecurtain Jan 17 '20

Watching Ted Danson and Tiya Sircar act badly was hilarious

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

Quick, let's leave before she starts to sing...

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u/TheAnxiousFox Jan 17 '20

Remember? The dance battle from West Side Story?

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u/mtm4440 Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

We've waited 50 chapters for this.

0.138 bearimys.

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u/FoodCourtDruid Jan 17 '20

A+ for Kamila's makeup though

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u/BadJanet Jan 17 '20

Kamilahs makeup and Vickis shoes the goats of the episode.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

Ice cold yoga... you pull so many muscles

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

Uuuuummmm... this is only episode 11 out of 14 and they're going to the Good Place.

This cannot be good.

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u/Brodellsky Jan 17 '20

I think the Good Place is gonna be not so good.

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u/cottenball Jan 17 '20

They’re the first people to go to The Good Place in hundreds of years. They’ll have nothing in common with anyone there. They’re going to hate it. Tahani will be judged by everyone, everyone will be better than Eleanor, everyone will think Jason’s an idiot. And then Chidi...ooohhhh Chidi. Look at the committee, something as simple as saying “here, here” or being stern forces them to resign. Imagine what that kind of pressure on every decision will do to Chidi’s digestive track.

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u/llama4ever Jan 17 '20

That was my reaction too. Too early, can’t be that easy.

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u/gonzolady Jan 17 '20

Yep, Vicki has Tahani pegged! Pish Posh

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

That was honestly one of the funniest parts of the episode to me. It reminded me of the episode of Family Matters where Laura has to play a Steve-like character in their version of It's a Wonderful Life, and the actress nails it. You're like, "Oh, you're around this guy and his performance every day, you probably picked up a few things."

With these two obviously there's less face time but she is definitely skilled because it felt completely accurate without being overly simple (despite depicting something that's simple and archetypal on the surface)

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u/ncd46 Jan 17 '20

Michael’s a fire squid and Vicki is an acid snake. What is Shawn?

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u/Kayleiane69 Jan 17 '20

a fart in the shape of a man.

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u/Lepidopteria Jan 17 '20

Is it just me or is Jason getting hotter

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u/ShutUpTodd Jan 17 '20

chiseled features even more chiseled.

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u/lovetheblazer Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Chidi: Alright listen—maybe on paper you and Janet don’t make total sense, but who cares? The relationship you have built is wonderful. She knows you and loves you and that’s all that matters.

Jason: Do you really believe that?

Chidi: Of course I do.

Jason: Ahaha sucka!

Chidi: ...sorry?

Jason: I got you so bad. Dude, pretend what you just said is what you said to you instead of to me. And you have to listen to yourself, because it was already in your own head and then it came out! But just like, put it back in your head and realize that it was you talking about you and Eleanor!

Chidi: Against all odds, I know what you mean and I’ve got to give it up. That was— that was good?

Jason: Yeah it was! Chess. Mate.

Jason managing to successfully employ reverse psychology without knowing what either of those words means in context (probably) is so classic him. Or as he said to Chidi later on “classic us!”

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u/Rpres70324 Jan 17 '20

Jason is the wisest in the group. Maybe he was a buddist monk?

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u/thepawneeraccoon Jan 17 '20

Vicky is actually stunning

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

If Frida Khalo wants to make out with me in heaven, then we'll have a conversation...

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

So glad Jason didn't accidentally erase the earth last week so we could all be here today.

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u/pretty-in-pink Jan 17 '20

Though Florida Man destroying the world would be on brand

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u/poisoneyevory Jan 17 '20

goNNA ERASE THE EEEEEAAAARRRTHHHH ERASE THE EARTH

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u/Whittlinman Jan 17 '20

For Doug's sake will someone please give Tiya Sircar the lead role of a comedy already?!!

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u/thepawneeraccoon Jan 17 '20

Bruh. I have loving and supportive parents and even I’m triggered by Tahani’s donors

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u/ctuwallet24 Jan 17 '20

Absolutely not real. The humans won’t know they’re being tested. This will be their test.

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

That makes sense, but it also begs the question of when the testing will end.

They've been tested, over 800 variations of testing. Michael's right in that they worked hard to save all of humanity, including almost trading their own souls if it meant getting Shawn to agree to the re-evaluation of the afterlife. Eleanor alone passed the first test delivered by Judge Gen, but she's still going with the others.

If the humans have to fear that every promise of the Good Place is a test, that's a torture in itself.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

James Buchanan... Definitely at least a little bi. Gonna put him in the maybe pile.

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20

Who else was in that maybe pile?!

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

James Buchanan... Definitely at least a little bi

James "The Bi Cannon" Buchanan

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u/NeedsToShutUp Jan 17 '20

Yeah I feel like him and his long term “friend” and “ roommate” being called "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy" may be a bit more than maybe

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u/xosnsd Jan 17 '20

Vicky is so hot. Literally that’s all I was thinking about during her scenes.

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u/hitchinpost Jan 17 '20

She’s a strong independent acid snake in the skin suit of a stone cold fox.

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u/likemike2233 Jan 17 '20

They need to release the full video of Janet and Michael’s test song

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

JANET WILL NEVER GET BORED OF YOU BELOVED JASON SWEET SUMMER RAINDROP.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Watching Vicki's actress acting like she's Vicki acting like she can't act is 🤯

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u/Thesunsetreindeer Jan 17 '20

What the here is going on?

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u/wisebloodfoolheart Jan 17 '20

They're going to be unhappy in the good place for some reason. Either guilt about not having to take the test or the straight up boredom of living with only good people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

It's simply the test! Better than other tests!

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u/flintlock0 Jan 17 '20

I’m gonna be a chainsaw bear for Halloween this year.

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u/gonzolady Jan 17 '20

Regular chainsaw bear or tiny bacon chainsaw bear?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

I'm scared. I don't trust this ending-

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u/Raregolddragon Jan 17 '20

Same they are going to be first test subjects and they can't know they are being tested.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Recently unemployed, might as well do some traveling.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

"First of all, you know, uh, shut up. A-and, second of all, just shut up." Ted delivered this so amazingly.

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u/pretty-in-pink Jan 17 '20

That eggplant joke flew under the radar so well

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u/gonzolady Jan 17 '20

She had to ask Alexa? Poor Busty Alexa

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u/flintlock0 Jan 17 '20

Skipping to the “fears and phobias” section neglects so much material with which to torture people with.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

I read SOME books man, jeez.

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

I love that there was no punchline there. Jason's just actually read, and retained information from, Romeo and Juliet.

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

So wait are we actually going to see THE Good Place?! Sounds too good to be true.

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u/Locke108 Jan 17 '20

That’s why you don’t leave the Ferrari in the garage.

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u/Kidspud Jan 17 '20

My heart got a little broken seeing Mr Rogers on the chalkboard, evidence that he was in the bad place

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u/AlecBaldwinner Jan 17 '20

Everyone went to the bad place...except for Mindy

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u/wordybee Jan 17 '20

He definitely should be in the first run of the test. Get Mr. Rogers out of the Bad Place as soon as possible!

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Vicki is extremely attractive, not going to lie.

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u/Ski00 Jan 17 '20

It's all the ice cold yoga.

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u/evildrew Jan 17 '20

On a show filled with legit snacks, she became the legitest snack of them all in this episode.

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20

“Chess MATE!”

Jason is the best.

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u/Kidspud Jan 17 '20

I’m kinda curious how this will turn out with three episodes to go. I’m torn between the story’s smooth landing so far and the penchant for plot twists.

Even if things go south, I doubt it’ll be an unhappy or bad ending.

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u/ThisPaige Jan 17 '20

Dang Vicki does know Tahani, this is torture.

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u/CloudyDaze09 Jan 17 '20

Ahhh shirt, Michael taught Vicky too much.

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u/gonzolady Jan 17 '20

I’m going to start describing myself as a strong independent acid snake 🐍

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u/BrienneOfTurtles Jan 17 '20

The show could end right here, right now, and I would be happy.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

I knew it. You hate me now.

-Literally me at all times.

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u/flintlock0 Jan 17 '20

Vicky, aka Real Eleanor, is going to win the whole thing.

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u/mtm4440 Jan 17 '20

Whoa. Bearimy jump.

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u/xosnsd Jan 17 '20

“Dance Battle from West Side Story” lmaoooo

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '20

I didn't know I needed Janet singing

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u/onesincepearlharbor Jan 17 '20

My prediction is that they will be faced with a dilemma once they arrive. Obviously they know The Good Place can’t be in a good condition given the fact that the members of the committee were ineffectual pushovers, but I think they could be told that should they accept their eternity in The Good Place they can’t oversee the new afterlife program, something they’re reticent to agree to given all of the suspicious shirt they had to uncover in order to get it back on track in the first place.

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u/coleyoley81 Jan 17 '20

That time I tried to teach Taylor Swift how to dance. Oh Tahani, your frustration is totally warranted on this one 😂

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u/Thehobbitsatisengard Jan 17 '20

Prediction: just like being in the Good Place made people better, being tortured in the Bad Place with no hope or end in sight made people much worse. It’s gonna be a lot harder to find easy test subjects that become better than they think

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u/Katoschka Jan 17 '20

I really love that they are talking about how romance isn't likely to last for literal eternity because people will eventually become bored/grossed out with each other.

But Chidi and Eleanor will still work on their relationship.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Turns out saving every soul in the universe is worth a few points.

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u/HumblerMumbler Jan 17 '20

Her parents were the chainsaw bear. Instead of chopping off her bear, they chopped off her self-esteem.

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u/Galileo908 Jan 17 '20

Give D’Arcy the Emmy right now just for “GIVE ME THE TEST!”