r/arrow • u/HellfireSky i hate myself and i want to die • Nov 06 '19
[S08E04] "Present Tense" Post Episode Discussion
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When a mysterious new Deathstroke appears in Star City, Oliver and Team Arrow insist on taking down this villain themselves; reeling from the loss of one of its own, the future Team Arrow figures out a new way to stop JJ.
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u/coldphront3 Apr 11 '20
Oliver has always had a tendency to forget who he is or what he's been through whenever people make threats like that and expect him to be scared.
Oliver defeated Ra's Al Ghul in combat. Nobody should ever have been able to get the better of Oliver or intimidate him after that, and yet...
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Nov 17 '19
You know what pisses me off??? All Curtis wanted was a compliment on his awesome new beard and Oliver COMPLETELY missed the opportunity to tell him he looked "Terrific"!
Pssssh... "tremendous", my ass.
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u/JackLamplekins Nov 16 '19
love this show but the 2 times William quickly alluded to his HOMOSEXUALITY really felt like i was being waterboarded with indoctrination. curtis
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Nov 17 '19
Curtis was gay???????? They never brought it up
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u/JackLamplekins Nov 18 '19
Oh shit sorry dude, i was referring to a sort of periphery fan theory that Curtis may be gay. They've left some hints but it's super subtle and heavily disputed in the community. Sometimes I treat my theories like fact, which is my bad. Curtis could be gay, just as we all could be, but there's no solid evidence of it found in the canon Arrow universe.
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u/themosquito Nov 15 '19
You know, this is something I just thought of, do you think in the spin-off they'll ever do anything with Sara Diggle? Like, there must be a timeline where she still exists. I dunno, just would be interesting if it came up again that John Jr. was the creation of an in-universe retcon.
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u/OK_Soda Dec 05 '19
I'm just now getting caught up but she must exist on most if not all of the other Earths, since she's essentially the "prime" version of Diggle's offspring, and JJ only exists because Earth-1's timeline got messed up. Presumably most of the other Earths didn't have a Flashpoint event.
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u/Julius-n-Caesar Nov 16 '19
I’m pretty sure that she may well exist in Star City 2046, since that episode came out before the switch and was thus in a timeline where Connor Hawke may have been raised as JJ who was Sara at the time.
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u/brian200201 Nov 15 '19
Yano if the Earth's merge on crisis maybe the new earth both John Jr and Sara might exist
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u/sadrapsfan Nov 15 '19
Really like this twist. Hopefully they actually do change the future bc ever since they introduced the future shit, I'd thought it was funny that it could be that bad lol. It's just such an extreme transformation in 20 yrs
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u/Royale07 Dec 29 '19
wasnt to extreme the glades n star just switched financial situations from Hoss being mayor and a corrupt argus and shist that was already laying the seeds for 20 years prior not too hard to believe the evolution
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u/Mundane-Ad-911 Mar 15 '25
No coz the glades weren't even as bad as future star city. I do agree Rene being the one to betray them all makes sense though, he was an bitter selfish guy that barely gave up anything for the good of others before and after. He never had the approach of unity that the rest of them had, yet enjoyed the good status that came with being in Oliver Queen's office and Green Arrow's team, it checks out
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u/Th3MemeL0rd Nov 13 '19
I’m Australian and live in Australia I got the CW app on my phone and I use a vpn to watch Arrow, so o never know when a new episode is out, could someone tell me when a new episode comes out? The day (Eg: Tuesday) and the time? If you can put in Australian time? (AEST/ Australian eastern strandard time), thanks in advance
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u/iloveskinnyteens Nov 12 '19
For 5 years he watched as the homeless took over.
He came down to streets for only one reason.
To save his city.
But in order to do that.
He had to become someone else.
..something..else..
He is
The Purple Arrow
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u/Th3MemeL0rd Nov 12 '19
When was it obvious that William was gay? (As a child)
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u/My4orce Nov 14 '19
Wasn’t that why he got into a fight at school? I assumed it was because he was bullied for being gay, I might have missed something though
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u/Polantaris Nov 12 '19
It wasn't but to be fair it's not like we saw every single interaction between Oliver, Felicity, and William.
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u/CBRslingshot Nov 10 '19
Anyone else feel Oliver’s response to William coming out to him was odd? Maybe I didn’t pay much attention when young William was on screen, but I just don’t know anything about his preferences was communicated. How much time did he even officially spend with them?
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u/Royale07 Dec 29 '19
Currently had to binge watch the last 2 seasons of Arrow and Flash to catch up to the Crisis.It seems this season so far is bascially a Arrows Greatest Hits with all the call back plots connecting to each episode all over again,
Also Team Arrow Days of Future Past with this storyline
Not only is this a Russia throwback but the writers pretty much used the Flashs Father training his kid he never meant due to dying in the crisis when kid was a baby plot almost verbatim lol
When Dig spills the beans to Roy on how he exiled himself to an island Im sure Roy was thinking "You know what thats an even better idea I should do that right after im done helping u with this mission :
edit: Also just realixed both Barry and Olivers kids are either gay or bi (Nora and William)