r/SubredditDrama • • Sep 11 '17

Royal Rumble Drama isn't easy: r/games fights over how much proficiency is required to be a gaming journalist

Context:

VenturesBeat, a tech website, uploaded a controversial video of journalist Dean Takashi playing ineptly through the tutorial and the first level of the videogame Cuphead. The video, which includes Takashi failing to follow basic instructions in the tutorial portion, was uploaded in jest, with the original description calling it "shameful". The video is accompanied by an article written by Takahi himself on the game's difficulty

Nonetheless, the video went viral, drawing ire from the gaming community and from well-known GamerGate journalists, drawing similarities to when a similar incident happened with Polygon, in which a journalist that did not review the game played (very poorly) and recorded footage of DOOM.

Takashi has since written an article explaining the context of the video: he was the only person from VenturesBeat who had attended GamesCom and was available to play it, despite being terrible at platformers in general. After recording the gameplay footage, he told his editor that the footage was unusable, but VenturesBeat decided to upload it anyway for humor.

George Weidman, a popular gaming critic on Youtube (also known as Super Bunnyhop), wrote his own piece defending Takashi, outlining differences between games journalism and games criticism. Weidman pointed out that despite Takashi's lack of skill, Takahi has written multiple well-researched pieces covering the business side of the gaming industry.

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u/Jiketi Sep 11 '17

As the popularity grew, you suddenly became bombarded with media friendly faces who are actually posers

There's also a lot of people who are accused of being poseurs who aren't actually such.

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u/polite-1 Sep 11 '17 edited Sep 11 '17

Didn't we have a thread on this? It's pretty insane. The guys crime was being bad at a video game. It's not like he's even trying to hide it - it's literally in the title of the game and the focal point of his article.

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u/reelect_rob4d Sep 12 '17

Takashi reviewed an RPG and gave it a bad score because he didn't realize you could level up. Genres are less distinct than they used to be, but fucking leveling up is like half of what makes a game an RPG.

There's unskilled and then there's gross incompetence.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '17

Maybe it's good to have people with different abilities play the game, since gamers of different abilities will play the game, so I can figure out if the game is good for me based on my own amount of dirty casualness?

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '17

Unless you've never picked up a controller before, I doubt that video's gonna help you much

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u/Kingofburgerz Sep 11 '17

This is the dumbest outrage in the gaming community in a while, and that's saying something. However, I do think that the debate about whether critics need to be good at games or not is interesting.

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u/CuckMulligan Sep 11 '17

So it's stupid and interesting at the same time?

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u/captainersatz Sep 11 '17

One of those things that's interesting but incredibly difficult to have a discussion about online because so many people are coming at it in bad faith. Kind of hate how "ethics in gaming journalism" became a punchline because it is a legitimate topic worth discussing for anyone with interest in gaming media, and now any attempt to even start conversation about it is hamstrung from the beginning.

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u/reelect_rob4d Sep 12 '17

If Dean Takashi reviewed VHS releases of movies in the 90s, he would watch them frame-by-frame and complain about the wiggly distortion and fucked up sound and ask why the opening credits for Lawrence of Arabia are on the second tape.

There's a difference between being good and being competent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '17

idk I think the outrage over the Pride Month quest in Runescape was way dumber and worse

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