r/TrueDetective • u/NicholasCajun Mindhunter • Jan 14 '19
Discussion True Detective - 3x01 "The Great War and Modern Memory" & 3x02 "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye" - Post-Episode Discussion
Season 3 Episode 1: The Great War and Modern Memory
Aired: January 13, 2019
Synopsis: The disappearance of a young Arkansas boy and his sister in 1980 triggers vivid memories and enduring questions for retired detective Wayne Hays, who worked the case 35 years ago with his then-partner Roland West. What started as a routine case becomes a long journey to dissect the crime and make sense of it.
Directed by: Jeremy Saulnier
Written by: Nic Pizzolatto
Season 3 Episode 2: Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
Aired: January 13, 2019
Synopsis: Hays looks back at the aftermath of the 1980 Purcell case in West Finger, AR, including possible evidence left behind at the Devil's Den, an outdoor hangout for local kids. As attention focuses on two conspicuous suspects--Brett Woodard, a solitary vet and trash collector, and Ted LaGrange, an ex-con with a penchant for children--the parents of the missing kids, Tom and Lucy Purcell, receive a cryptic note from an anonymous source.
Directed by: Jeremy Saulnier
Written by: Nic Pizzolatto
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u/EntilZhaValen Jan 14 '19
Something wasn’t right when the father was in the back of the detectives car and said something about the kids, his son... and hesitated when he talked about Julie.
I think he knows she’s not his biological daughter. Hence what his mother divulged to the detectives at the funeral.
Also, the interviewer asked the question about “Julie and her father” in 90’ and him, possibly, leaving the force because of it.
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u/RubberDucksInMyTub Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 19 '19
The line "Ever some place you couldn't leave and couldn't stay- both at the same time?" was great. Any addict can relate to that.
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u/ypehmish Jan 14 '19
Can we talk about Ali's makeup during the 2015 timeline?
It's astoundingly good.
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u/xCBS Jan 14 '19
I wonder if you are gonna get something similar to season one where they introduce us to the murderer in the beginning of the show in some sort of inconsequential/ sneaky way.
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u/seezeey Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
I bet Wayne will figure out the mystery when he finally reads his wife’s book.
Edit: I've been thinking about the potential intersection between Wayne's memory and his wife's writing. There must be a relation between the two. Wayne's wife has the book around the 10 year mark and by then Wayne's memory is already deteriorating and there are references to his memory situation during the deposition. In reality, Wayne is the main character who is great at attention to detail, he is a tracker. I bet Wayne and his wife decided to write the book to capture his memories, the detail and clues about the case. The real question is who's telling the story in the book?
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u/MessianicCan Jan 14 '19
So the kids said they were going to the park to see their friend’s puppy at the beginning, but the boy’s father said he hadn’t left the house all day? Seems like they may have been going to the park to meet someone else that they knew and lied. Maybe the creepy hole-drilling uncle?
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u/KEEP_THE_CHANGE_ Jan 14 '19
Was that the kid's house at the end all burnt down?
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u/YeetedYams Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
"Is this what people do now?"
Hays calling out True Detective redditors
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u/idonthavemanyfriend Jan 14 '19
The look of absolute horror on Wayne's face when he finds the boy's body was some amazing acting from Ali.
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u/TR0YbuttsoupBarnes Jan 14 '19
I liked how Hays poured a little high life out for Steve McQueen.
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Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Watch Julia be the daughter of the Uncle cousin and Lucy. Getting some weird vibes about them.
Edited - she specifically states he's a cousin but acts like an uncle.
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u/TheRealBatmann Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Okay, initial reactions:
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Beautiful cinematography, color palette is intoxicating, Arkansas as a setting is going to be fun to watch.
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Mahershala's acting is phenomenal; Playing a character in different time periods all with unique nuances that already make the character feel lived in.
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I'm hooked...the dolls, the dead boy, the letter, the characters. I'm very much feeling enveloped by the atmosphere already.
Can't wait to see this unfold.
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Jan 14 '19
Ok question: Was he listening to the tape recording before the interview to remember it and memorize it so he doesn’t fuck it up and reveal he has dementia or whatever?
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u/chapert Jan 14 '19
Ali put on an outstanding performance these 2 episodes.
Three timelines, plus dementia? This will surely be a wild ride.
Very excited to watch it all unravel, and tie in at the end.
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u/InTheClouds89 Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
"Do you like kids generally?"
"Do I li-...what the fuck is the right answer to that question?".
I thought this was hilarious.