r/army • u/Kinmuan 33W • Oct 02 '18
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 35 -- Military Intelligence Branch -- 35D, 35E, 35F, 35G, 350F, 350G, 351Z, 351L, 351M, 351Y, 352N, 352S, 353T, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35N, 35P, 35Q, 35S, 35T, 35V, 35X, 35Y, 35Z
All,
As a follow-up based on our EOY Census and previous solicited comments, we're going to try running an MOS Discussion/Megathread Series, very similar to how we did the Duty Station Series. I'd also, again, like to thank everyone who participated.
The MOS Discussion Threads are meant to be enduring threads where individuals with experience or insight in to particular CMFs or MOSes can leave/give advice and tips. If you have any MOS resources, schools, etc, this would be a great place to share them.
The hope is that these individual threads can serve as 'megathreads' on the posts in question, and we can get advice from experienced persons. Threads on reddit are not archived - and can continue to be commented in - until 6 months. Each week I will keep the full listing/links to all previous threads in a mega-list below, for ease of reference. At the end of the series I will go back and ensure they all have completely navigable links
If you have specific questions about these MOSes, please feel free to ask here, but know that we are not forcing or re-directing all questions to these threads -- you can, and are encouraged, to still use the WQT. This is not to be an 'AMA', although if people would like to offer themselves up to answer questions, that would be great. A big "Thank You" to everyone who is willing to answer questions about the MOSes in question, but the immediate preference would be for informational posts. These are meant to be enduring sources of information.
I currently expect to lump Os and Ws in to the CMF discussions. Going forward if it would be better to split them (and I will most likely chop up the Medical Series), please voice that opinion. If there are many MOSes, but extremely tiny/small density (like much of the 12 Series), I'm going to keep it as one. Yes, I'm also going to keep codes like for Senior Sergeant for the MOS (ie the Zulus).
These only work with your participation and your feedback.
Common questions / information to share would probably include the following;
- Day to Day Life
- "What's a deployment like?"
- Career Advancement/Growth Opportunities
- Speed of Promotion
- Best Duty Station for your MOS
The idea is to go week-to-week, but I may leave the initial up for 2 weeks just to iron any kinks out, and garner attention.
So, again, willing to answer questions is great, but if there's any information you can impart now, I think that would provide the greatest benefit.
OPSEC Reminder
Some of these MOSes will be more sensitive than others when it comes to training and daily life. Just remember, it's everyone's responsibility.
This thread covers the following MOSes:
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 35 -- Military Intelligence Branch -- 35D, 35E, 35F, 35G, 350F, 350G, 351Z, 351L, 351M, 351Y, 352N, 352S, 353T, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35N, 35P, 35Q, 35S, 35T, 35V, 35X, 35Y, 35Z
- 35D -- All Source Intelligence Officer
- 35E -- Counterintelligence Officer
- 35F -- Human Intelligence Officer
- 35G -- Signals Intelligence Officer
- 350F -- All Source Intelligence Technician
- 350G -- Imagery Intelligence Technician
- 351Z -- Attaché Technician
- 351L -- Counterintelligence Special Agent (Technician)
- 351M -- Human Intelligence Collection Technician
- 351Y -- Area Intelligence Technician
- 352N -- Signal Intelligence Analysis Technician
- 352S -- Signals Collector Technician
- 353T -- Intelligence Systems Maintenance Technician
- 35F -- Intelligence Analyst
- 35G -- Geospatial Intelligence Imagery Analyst
- 35L -- Counterintelligence Special Agent
- 35M -- Human Intelligence Collector
- 35N -- Signals Intelligence Analyst
- 35P -- Cryptologic Linguist
- 35Q -- Cryptologic Network Warfare Specialist
- 35S -- Signals Collector/Analyst
- 35T -- Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer/Integrator
- 35V -- Signals Intelligence Senior Sergeant/Chief Signals Intelligence Sergeant
- 35X -- Intelligence Senior Sergeant/Chief Intelligence Sergeant
- 35Y -- Chief Counterintelligence/Human Intelligence Sergeant
- 35Z -- Signals Intelligence (Electronic Warfare) / Senior Sergeant/ Chief
DO NOT:
...Ask MOS questions unrelated to those listed. "How did your duties compare to a 19D when deployed?" or "Is it true an MP Company carries more firepower than an IN Company" are fine. "While this is up, what's 92F like?" is not.
...Ask random joining questions. If your question isn't about the MOSes listed, then it probably belongs in a different Megathread, the Weekly Question Thread, or a new post.
...Shitpost top-level comments. Treat it like the WQT. Temp bans for people who can't stop acting like idiots.
...Simply say 'I'm a 00X, ama'. Please include some sort of basic information or qualification (ie, I'm an 11B NCO with X years or I'm a 13F who's been in Y type of units or I'm a 14A who's done PL time)
Previous MOS Megathreads:
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 11 -- Infantry Branch -- 11A, 11B, 11C, 11X, 11Z
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 13 -- Field Artillery Branch -- 13A, 131A, 13B, 13F, 13J, 13M, 13R, 13Z
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 17 -- Cyber Branch -- 17A, 17B, 170A, 170B, 17C, 17E
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 18 -- Special Forces -- 18A, 180A, 18B, 18C, 18D, 18E, 18F, 18X, 18Z
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 19 -- Armor Branch -- 19A, 19B, 19C, 19D, 19K, 19Z
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 27 -- Judge Advocate General Branch -- 27A, 27B, 270A, 27D
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 31 -- Military Police Branch -- 31A, 311A, 31B, 31D, 31E, 31K
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 36 -- Finance Management Branch -- 36A, 36B
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 37 -- Psychological Operations Branch -- 37A, 37X, 37F
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 38 -- Civil Affairs Branch -- 38A, 38G, 38X, 38B
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 46 -- Public Affairs -- 46A, 46X, 46Q, 46R, 46Z
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 56 -- Chaplain Branch -- 56A, 56D, 56X, 56M
MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 74 -- Chemical Corps -- 74A, 740A, 74D
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u/RobertFlyAf Mar 13 '19
Hey guys, future 35N here. I have a few question I'm hoping someone could answer. Is there any places I'm likely to go for my first duty station? How often will I deploy and for how long? I can't find any information online but maybe someone in this thread might know or can atleast give me some insight.
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u/cynicalllama Mar 19 '19
A lot of people out of my class ended up in Korea. Don't be surprised if you land there. A handful of people also got assignments for Buckley or Meade.
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u/Killbo_Fragglns Mar 03 '19
I'm looking to sign as a 35P. Anyone who has had that MOS who can give me some insight / advice?
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u/napleonblwnaprt Mar 12 '19
Whatchu wanna know?
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u/TheBusinessGamer Mar 27 '19
Not sure what that guy wanted to know, but I'm intrested in 35P. I just want to know how desk-job-like it is. I'm about to graduate college and the last thing I want to do is continue sitting in front of a computer all day.
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u/kenuchiha24 Feb 26 '19
does anyone have any useful info on AIT for 35L? currently reclassifying from 35T.
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Jan 28 '19
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u/Max_Vision Feb 01 '19
My question is should I change my MOS and if so, to what ?
Fuck if I know - what do you want to do? Learn a language? Blow shit up? Dive? Hunt down spies? Kick in doors? Cook? Mop? Turn wrenches?
Figure out what you want to do, then figure out a way to get the Army to send you to the training.
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Jan 28 '19
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u/Max_Vision Feb 01 '19
The Army made no promises that you would be a 35Q or do 35Q work, only that you got a shot to attend the training. If you completed the training, the Army has fulfilled that portion of the contract.
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u/fit_panda39 Dec 31 '18
35L is your job anything like how the goarmy description makes it sound like? I have seen mixed opinions about 35L, some say you do CI work, others say you process security clearances all day and other mundane work. What about 35L in the 75th ranger regiment, is this where you should go if you want more likelihood of deployments and high profile assignments?
Go easy on me
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u/frichalf Jan 09 '19
IMO, it's the best MOS in the Army. That being said, you get what you put into it. Assignment types vary, you can be sent to all the Army "hooah" training you could dream of, you could be in an investigative unit where you wear a suit and tie to a field office, or in a hybrid unit. I can assure you, you won't be processing clearances because there's an agency who already handles that. I wouldn't mind if that becomes a task for us again...determining clearance eligibility requires good investigative skills.
Conducting CI operations itself is a thankless job because it goes unnoticed (as it should), but it is personally rewarding because you and your team know your accomplishments and you also know the importance of it.
The MOS is very different than most because you have a lot of control over your job, you'll always have a boss to tell you what to do and yes, you might have to be in uniform and be clean shaven...it is still the Army.
If you show your competence, responsibility, and are able to convey the importance of your mission to Leaders (your own or others...all the way up to General Officers), the world is your oyster. If you can't do that very well, you can be stuck in an S2, pulling gate guard, or worse, removed from the MOS.
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Jan 03 '19
The Army is what you make of it.
All jobs, especially those in the MI field, vary greatly. As a 35L -- in some units you will get to do high-speed 35L work, and in some units you may simply pull gate duty. There are a hundred other opportunities for a 35L after you complete training and get a few years' experience.
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Dec 30 '18
Future 35P, and I've heard that TS clearance can take a long time. I've also heard that 35P AIT includes DLI and Goodfellow AFB. Do I need my TS clearance to go to the DLI, or can I expect to be stuck at BCT? And what's this about going to Goodfellow?
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Jan 03 '19
The Army will not send you to DLI without the appropriate clearance. Reason: if you go through DLI, and then your clearance is denied, you just received a year-long vacation in Monterey at government expense.
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Dec 13 '18
Any jobs in the 35 series that are similar to the marine corps MOS 2651?
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u/Max_Vision Dec 13 '18
Any jobs in the 35 series that are similar to the marine corps MOS 2651?
Immabouta be an asshole:
(1) If your post could be answered by your NCO, Google or a 5 minute call with an Army Recruiter, then please do so.
(4) Use the search bar. It is very likely that whatever you are about to post has already been posted before. This includes questions about duty stations, MOSs, boots, or what to take to the field.
(5) We don't all know what a 12V or a 35Q or a 94L is. Post the description along with your obscure MOS code.
There's literally a list of all the 35-series MOSs and titles at the top of the page. There are people in this thread discussing nearly every one of them, and no one here should be expected to know what the USMC MOSs are, since we don't even expect people to know all the Army ones.
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Dec 08 '18
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u/Max_Vision Dec 10 '18
No, the courses are not for E/W only. Many (all?) aren't even Army-only. I've known various officers who have gone through the spectrum of HT-JCOE courses. Put your application in.
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Dec 06 '18
I saw a few throw out 35L but generally no juicy info. Helpful skills to have going to the schoolhouse? Fast/slow pace? How much army BS do we have to deal with? I’m not looking to waste an hour of each morning doing PRT or sitting around on CQ when I could be studying in the classroom or doing real workouts. I’ve repeatedly heard that knowing how to write is the biggest one. What others are useful?
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u/frichalf Jan 10 '19
35L is an Army MOS where you will still have a Chain of Command. Don't go into it thinking that you are not going to be in the Army anymore, you will only disappoint yourself with that mindset. PRT, CQ/Staff Duty, additional duties, and mandatory training will always be around in some way, especially while attending the schoolhouse.
In this former instructor's opinion, you don't have to do anything else to prep yourself for the course. Writing is important, but I want to emphasize that it is MILITARY writing, which is different than collegiate writing. You will feel like you are drinking from a fire hose because it is a lot of information being thrown at you in a limited amount of time. The content is unlike anything else in the Army but it will all be taught to you, they don't expect you to know something that they didn't teach you.
Go into the course with an open mind and show up ready to absorb everything the experienced instructors have to teach. We turned mechanics, cooks, and many knuckle-dragging combat arms folks into fine Agents, if you have half a brain, can take criticism (because you will have to adhere to the tough grading standards in the many tests), you'll be fine.
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Jan 10 '19
Haha! Thank you for your input. I wholeheartedly understand that extra duties will exist so long as I’m in, I am just being a big dramatic baby and don’t want to focus on anything besides education when I go. What’s Huachuca like? Any good restaurants or places to visit during downtime? Also, I’m getting a dose of OJT before I go. If it’s anything like my prior MOS, the instructors won’t care about any OJT and will want things done in an extremely specific manner. Should I be mentally prepared for the “scrap everything you’ve learned” talk?
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u/ncklws93 Mar 29 '19 edited Mar 29 '19
About to go to MEPS to take the DLAB and lock in a job as a 35P. Any current soldiers have any idea what languages I’m looking at getting? I hope it’s not too detrimental to OpSec to list a few of the common ones you have heard of/received.
Also, what’s the likelihood of me getting MSA in my contract. Will they look at me like I’m an ass if I push for a language in my contract?
Thanks!