r/TheOriginals • u/AutoModerator • Jul 12 '18
[Episode Discussion] Season 5 Episode 10 'There in the Disappearing Light'
There in the Disappearing Light - Klaus helps Hope cope with her pain in an unconventional way. A figure from Elijah's past comes back seeking help. Elsewhere, Marcel takes on the nightwalkers, while Vincent deals with the fallout of a fateful decision.
- Directed by: Daniel Gillies
- Written by: Eva McKenna & Jeffrey Lieber
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u/haveapicniclife Jul 12 '18
Seriously?! Just like that and no more Josh?
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u/nobleman77 Jul 12 '18
For being a main character now I thought he would get a better death than that. It just felt so matter of fact and secondary.
Nobody besides marcel even knows. I would have hoped for reactions form his friends (Freya/Vincent) and a mention of someone needing to call Davina to tell her that her best friend is gone. It felt on the same level of ivy’s death and she just got here.
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u/tinytom08 Jul 12 '18
The worst part is that he died in one of the worst action scenes I've ever seen filmed, just too many cuts in the fight made it too hard to follow. It sucks how they could just kill him like that.
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u/Xil_Jam333 Jul 12 '18
They didn't even use super speed in that scene. It ain't a vampire fight scene without some super speed. Probably has to do with little budget for special effects.
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u/vanastalem Jul 12 '18
Marcel said he'd tell Klaus tomorrow. Davina is coming back next week, so they may talk about it more then.
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u/nuke7m Jul 14 '18
Why the hell didn’t Marcel save Josh?!? His venom is cured with his blood, right?!
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u/TheOriginalSkyZer0 Jul 17 '18
there was no time. it was injected directly into his heart...
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u/nuke7m Jul 20 '18
REALLY?! Like vampire blood needs time to work? IT IS FKING MAGIC!
It is just REALLY BAD writing... :/
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u/Bytewave Jul 12 '18
Well we were promised important deaths I guess they're delivering! Also everyone was sure he had insane plot armor, guess not!
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
He did have insane plot armour, he out survived a couple of Originals. But all plot armour expires when the plot expires, which is what is happening this season. I suspect more will follow.
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u/willisdowd1 Jul 12 '18
they literally built up a whole season on creating the beast and some unknown witch snaps his neck the nerf this season is disgusting
Also remember when Lucien slaughtered the whole strix army and now marcel struggles with two vampires
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u/tinytom08 Jul 12 '18
In fairness Lucien was a much older vampire, but even at 1/5th of his strength Marcel should have dominated two vampires.
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u/Ianyyy Jul 12 '18
Older or not, they are both the beast and they both kicked the whole Mikaelson family’ ass. Two normal vampires should and must be a piece of cake.
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u/Xil_Jam333 Jul 12 '18
If they weren't nerfing Marcel this hard Josh would have been alive. (but I'm glad he died cause he found peace with Aiden)
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
But if Marcel can take on a couple of Originals, who are ancient, then he should be able to dance around four oldish vampires.
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u/tinytom08 Jul 12 '18
i know, i even said that at 1/5th of luciens strength he should be able to take them on. All i'm doing is trying to make an excuse for the writers.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
haha, it's really sad when as fans we have to try to make up excuses for the writers.
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u/KingMarcel Jul 13 '18
Marcel also slaughtered the last of the Strix and Legion of Hollow powered super witches which makes this even more silly.
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u/JohnSmithSensei Jul 12 '18
Ok, that afterlife reunion got me.
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u/Ianyyy Jul 12 '18
So if the other side is still existing, then Hayley is probably with Jackson happily right now.
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u/The_Big_F Jul 12 '18 edited Jul 12 '18
It's not the other side, it's "peace", the afterlife. A dimension of pure piece for the souls, where there's apparently no coming back. They just may watch over the living, but that's all, they're all fine and happy now. On TVD we've seen Vicki, Tyler, Jo, Jenna, John, Lexi, Elena, Damon and Stefan there. So for sure, Hayley is there too. And that's where Josh and Aiden were at that scene. :}
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u/vanastalem Jul 12 '18
So is Jackson, Hayley should have found peace with him. We just didn't see it.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
But we don't know for sure if Jackson is truly Hayley's one great love, and not Elijah. She chose to stay with Jackson, and she loved him, but it was a choice she made, based on their combined werewolf alpha fate, and the problems she had with the Originals at the time. She was always wrapped around Elijah one way or the other.
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u/TheOriginalSkyZer0 Jul 17 '18
is this the first time we've seen this on the originals? like it feels like this "heaven" was just fabricated to show the happy ending
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u/The_Big_F Jul 17 '18
Yes, the first time on TO. But as part of TVD universe, it will also be a part of it.
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u/TheCatInTheBat Jul 12 '18
Am I the only one who thought: Oh come on, I want to mourn Josh properly and feel sad that he died, not the show saying right afterwards, that "It's ok, he's happier now, we should actually be glad for him that he's dead, and the whole story of struggle is kind of pointless anyway since people would just be better off dying." ?
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u/LeagueImaginaryWomen Jul 12 '18
Goddammit I'm done with this show.
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u/Gotham0 Jul 12 '18
Yeah I love this show but it's absolutely time for the end. I was content with S4 being the series finale. There is no way that the series final episode will be as satisfying as that S4 finale was.
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u/JohnSmithSensei Jul 12 '18
I've always considered last season to be the true series finale, and this season to be just an extended epilogue to set up "Legacies".
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u/vithuyan Jul 12 '18
Really?!? I hated the season 4 finale because to was too sad. Of course the series finale will be worse since it seems that they are killing somebody every epsiode. I just want an ending where the Mikelsons can be a normal family without any afterlife bull.
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u/marveloustrashpanda Jul 12 '18
I liked the season 4 finale, I would have been completely ok with it being the series finale. It may have been sad, but at least everyone was alive. :*(
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u/therisingalleria Jul 12 '18
Give 👏 Vincent 👏 a 👏 damn 👏 break!!! Let him be happy!!! And fuck you Julie Plec for killing Josh! And I still love Antoinette, I'm glad she's still alive.
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u/RefreshNinja Jul 12 '18
This is not a show in which characters get to be happy for a decent stretch of time. It's a dark supernatural soap opera gothic romance. Happy endings are for other shows.
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u/JohnSmithSensei Jul 12 '18
The great big bad Beast needs back up to take on half a dozen fodder vamps, when even the inferior Mikaelsons can rip through far greater numbers with ease.
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u/Gotham0 Jul 12 '18
Look how easily he kicked Kol and Elijah's asses when he bit them. Now he gets KO'd by some regular ass witch. This is after we saw the same Elijah wipe out Marcel's entire army.
Wtf
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u/willisdowd1 Jul 12 '18
alright that scene was sort of hype still would’ve rather watched marcel and Klaus butcher them though
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
Yeah, Marcel enters saying he's going to enjoy this, and Hope just screams, end of, what an anti climax.
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u/Gotham0 Jul 12 '18
So..... Josh could do that but Marcel couldn't? I don't even want to hear that he was caught off guard. I'm just going to continue to blame this on poor and inconsistent writing.
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u/Gotham0 Jul 12 '18
Witches always seem to be as powerful as the plot requires. They range from "super weak" to "even able to knock out Marcel" episode to episode. It's ridiculous.
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u/Osinib Jul 12 '18
Ah farewell Josh. I'm a bit bummed by his death, but I guess I saw it coming, being the last season at all.
That final scene with Marcel was quite good, the throwback to when they first met with the coin in the van, I still remember that scene! That was a nice touch.
For not being part of the core family, I think Josh's character development was awesome and the writers did a great job with him over the years. He provided good comedy relief, and had a lot of dynamic relationships with all the Mikaelsons. Klaus being my favorite!
He was entertaining and I do think his death was unnecessary, but a lot of people die on this show. Some even come back to life. So who knows.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
Some even come back to life. So who knows.
He can't come back, they showed him at peace with Aiden, and there's no coming back from peace, it is final.
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u/Demonicsilver Jul 13 '18
I feel like too many people have been brought back trough the years. Hadn't this season been the finale (of TO, Legacies to come) I would have assumed they'd be back. There's always a workaround if they need a character for whatever reason.
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Jul 12 '18
I am so pissed that he's dead but im so happy he's reunited with Aiden im so confused i don't know what to do!
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u/stephanieleigh88 Jul 12 '18
Overall I thought the episode was okay. I liked seeing Hope using all of that power, and what a power it was.
And honestly I’m surprised Josh has made it this long, he did get a lot stronger like killing the witch before he used his powers on him, he use to be the weakling of the bunch. And I really got to like his character, Davina is in next episode so I hope we get to see her reaction to his death and I wish he would of said something to the effect of “tell Davina I love her.” Something because they were the greatest of friends so I’m sad she wasn’t around but she will be next week.
I don’t understand Declan’s place in the show, before the season started it said Hayley had a new friends with benefit but we only seen them together like twice, his character is boring with no purpose.
I’m also sad that Vincent didn’t get his happy ending, out of everyone he deserves a happy ending but everything has been taken from him, His wife, Hayley, half of his witch friends and now Josh and Ivy. He can’t catch a break, he literally has no one now because Marcel and him went on the best of terms.
And I hate that this is the last season and we have barely seen Rebekah, Kol, No Davina, barely any episodes of Hayley. I thought Julie said this was going to be about the Mikaelson family, well darn it we have barely seen any of them besides Klaus and Hope and Marcel.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
I wish he would of said something to the effect of “tell Davina I love her.”
That may be what he whispered to Marcel. Or maybe he said "I always thought you had a tight butt".
EDIT: Stupid phone pressed return before I was done lol
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u/TheOriginalSkyZer0 Jul 17 '18
Will Davina and Hope run into each other? That, will be interesting.
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u/kal824 Jul 12 '18
In all of this hate on retconning and every Declan scene, I just want to praise Jaimie Murray's acting/character for being the only worthwhile addition to the season.
Elijah deserves a happy relationship with her, shame he probably will not last the next few episodes
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Jul 12 '18
The problem is that hope isn't that amazing to me. If they are going to make this spin off show I just don't see it being as good. Idk why I'm not as into her character but maybe it's all the angst and sadness and fear in her? (She needs to start being badass and growing up a little) Anyway the only reason I'm wAtching is for Klaus and Elijah and once Hayley, I just wish they would make her character more interesting. If they make her character more interesting they might have a shot at making the new show good.
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Jul 13 '18
I feel like the spin off is going to be horrible and die off very quickly. Not many people care about her at all and as you said the good ones will be long gone.
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Jul 13 '18
Exactly!
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u/serendipity2425 Jul 15 '18
I just don’t understand why she has to be a teenager? Why can’t they age her some in the beginning of the show? Skip high school and go straight to adulthood. I will give the show a chance and watch the first episode but I just don’t feel myself connecting to that when I rewatch TVD I skip the entire first season because it is too teeny boppy for me. I’m only 24 but I’m just not into those kind of shows. I loved TVD because they were older, some of the characters, like Damon and Stefan, the originals. But when TO came I was in love. That’s what kept me connected to TVD. Those are my favorite seasons on the show. TO was way better than TVD for that simple reason. I just wish since these shows are all ending they would keep giving to the viewer of this genre and go older. Vampires can be as old as you want them to be and look as young as you want them to. If they started legacies with Hope being in her mid 20’s or do a significant time jump to the future, that would be my favorite way of them doing it. Because if they do a significant time jump they can explain away what happens with the rest of her family. But with her being so young, who’s going to be her parent in the show? How are we going to love all of our TO characters that just abandon hope which a lot of this show was based on protecting her? I don’t know. I just wish she was older.
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u/BLKBDRFLY Jul 12 '18
I am one of the few viewers that never watched TVD. I don’t care about the ships or who they can bring back... all I know is this once was a good show and now it sucks. The only reason I am still watching is because of the investment I have in Elijah, Klaus, Marcel & Vincent. I was so excited when they announced season 5, but now I am so sad because they ruined a really good show. The TO audience is not a good place to advertise a teen show, this whole Legacies promo season might’ve gone better with the other teen show (TVD).
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u/zeissman Jul 16 '18
Season 3 was this show at its best. Everything since has been lackluster with a few exceptions.
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u/NicholasLaBelle Jul 12 '18
Nazi Vampire problem gone in one fell swoop. Ancestors are free now there is only peace.
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u/kal824 Jul 12 '18
All that power and Marcel gets taken down by rando witch and generic vamps? The power fluctuations are garbage
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u/KingMarcel Jul 13 '18 edited Jul 13 '18
Smh
Marcel gets ganked by some shitters just so they can later have an excuse to kill Josh off in the shortest most hamfisted way possible. I mean really "I need some back up" says the man That single handedly ended the Strix who were all 800+ years old and let's not forget the legion of Inadu powered witches That he washed even though he was ambushed, but yeah let's have him call JUST JOSH for back up.
That was bad reeeeeally bad.
I was gonna give this episode a 2/5 but Romans presence and Hopes cringe angst easily denotes it down to a spectacular 1/5. The writers have lost their damn minds.
"Om nom" - Hope Mikaelson 2026
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Jul 13 '18
I only really watch the show for the more BA moments. Hence why Klaus became my favorite early on and I really liked when he tore through hoards of others while being cocky. Marcel was SUPPOSED to be the most powerful and already on his own did really well holding his ground. Talk about being let down... and now Klaus has even pulled it back and has become way less impressive. Elijah? Does he do anything anymore outside of stand around with his mouth slightly open? Just bring back their ruthless dad already. I need SOMETHING.
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u/Amarie48 Jul 12 '18
The episodes just don't flow together anymore from scene to scene. I'm ready for these last 3 episodes to come and go. Curious to see what the finale will be like.
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u/marveloustrashpanda Jul 12 '18
It’s uh... It’s been a while since I’ve actually cried over a TV show. There were a few tears when Josh died, but I legitimately started sobbing when Marcel made that toast, and when he reunited with Aiden. I still don’t like Hope, but damn was it satisfying watching her blast those a*hole vampires.
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u/The_Big_F Jul 12 '18
I have to say I was very angry with Plec for Josh's death. But I sorta forgave her at the very end with that beautiful Jayden scene.
I cried of happiness. So sweet and beautiful written and with a really good song choice on it. :}
I somehow wanted Josh and Aiden together at the end of the show, I sorta got it. Never got over that painful death Aiden had at Dahlia's hands without even doing anything to her.
I mean, I'm very sad Josh died, and it's possible Davina's there next week because of it, but, I'm happy he's happy again now.
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u/mocochocoblue Jul 12 '18 edited Jul 12 '18
I kind of expected a bit more to happen - something huge and exciting - considering we had to wait two weeks to watch this episode and it just left me feeling unsatisfied. I was hoping we'd have an amazing torture or fight scene, but instead, it was all too quick and very lackluster. There's still a lot of stupid decisions being made and inconsistent writing to the point these writer's need to stop with their bullshit. I strongly recommended for Eva, Jeffrey, and Julie Plec who approved of this shit to put down the pen, discard the paper, and stop writing. Haha!
Firstly, you mean to tell me that Klaus didn't consider having Hope go after Roman or the Nazi vampires at all? Was it never a thought within his mind until Hope gave him a name? He should be the one that wants them dead the most considering their prejudice against hybrids of any kind. Klaus should know that Emmett blew up the werewolves and poisoned the witches - mind you, his own sister could've been killed or severely injured - and he nor anyone else that's a Mikaelson believes that he, his daughter, and son will become their next targets? This is just mad goofy. A good majority of us here have been stating this for a few episodes, but the writer's don't have Klaus of all people instantly suggest this instead of being thrown around by his daughter like a rag doll? Okay.
Hope can't bring herself to kill Roman or torture him the way she tortured Elijah? Hope is able to deduce that she played a role in Hayley dying just as much as Roman did by saying, "He's no more guilty or responsible than me." but Elijah gets no slack? She can butcher her uncle who has taken tons of risk for her and Hayley to live, but she can do no more to Roman other than make him seize in pain for a second 2 - 3 times? Does she not know what her family has gone through to protect her? Elijah who still continues to try and help her despite she and Klaus not wanting him around. Hell, she barely knows either of them on a personal level, but Elijah has helped keep her alive all these years and he receives no leeway despite him being amnesiac at the time.
Marcel just had me confused this entire episode, like, sir, why aren't you calling your family to help you with the Nazi vampires? He calls Josh of all people to help him take out vampires when Josh 9/10 doesn't ever act like a vampire. He knew they had a witch on their side so why not come in with more caution? He's been in the army so he should know not to just waltz into a room with his enemies hiding in the shadows while he's completely out in the open for them to attack. You scope out the place, get more people to help you out, be cautious, and stealthy. The fuck was this?
As for Josh, we rarely - if we've ever up until this point - see Josh act like a vampire and be grimy, bloody, and erratic with it. He's just there. We rarely see him fight or actually be a major part of the story and then he's killed. I know it means something for Marcel, but Josh is so in the background and hasn't made much of an impact on the show that I don't care. I mean, it's unfortunate but I really don't give a shit. It was nice to see his reunion with Aiden and how they finally got to be together once again. His heart to heart with Marcel was nice and how he gave him a kiss goodbye was very sweet. It's nice, but it's not a heartbreaking moment because he was mostly in the background doing nothing to draw me to his character. I will say that Josh did put in work this episode, I mean, he killed that witch before he was able to harm and prevent him from rescuing Marcel and he fought like a Vampire. Finally! Why does he have to die for us to see him display his vampire nature or for him to get more involved with the action? I like the bloody and gruesome aspect to this show so for him to have been a vampire and not display that made me dismiss his character and as the show continued he never had a huge impact when it came to the scenes he was in. Either way, Josh put in the work Marcel failed to do - which makes no sense considering his nature, species, and army background. It's the writer's trying to bring drama into the show, but it's only making their character's look stupid or downplay their character's abilities and strength. - and he eventually got his happy ending with Aiden, so, RIP JOSH.
Declan still has no meaning and the point of his character hasn't presented itself to the point no one gives a shit. He needs to stop stealing screen time from main character's we want to see with his boring ass nonsense.
That was nice of Vincent to release the witches from the Ancestral well so that they and Ivy could find peace. Hope also activated her wolf gene and it was very anticlimactic and so was the way she killed the Nazi vampires. I personally don't understand why none of them rushed her...they literally stood there and died without a fight. It doesn't matter if they would've gotten thrown back or attacked by Klaus and Marcel there was no reason for them not to attempt an attack or fight for their lives.
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Jul 12 '18
man, you are just awesome. don't ever doubt that. you should have like a talk show or something.
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u/mocochocoblue Jul 12 '18
Haha, thank you! That's really nice of you to say that and I appreciate the compliment. The show would probably get pulled after the first episode, though, haha. Although, I should try and get a job - host or intern position - with AfterBuzz Tv, that's right up my alley.
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u/UroshUchiha Jul 12 '18
With each new episode I'm more and more done with this season. Everything about this season feels like a cheap fan made spin off.
Season 4 should have been a finale, I wish someone compelled me to forget that season 5 ever existed.
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u/JohnSmithSensei Jul 12 '18
They have a cure for Beast venom, right?
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Jul 12 '18
I think so. But at the same time they might not anymore. Doesn't it have to werewolf venom from all 7 original packs? And one of them was the Apisi pack, last season said Tyler Lockwood was the last member, so maybe with him dead they can no longer cure the beast bite because they don't have all 7?
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u/tinytom08 Jul 12 '18
Wait, Tyler was the last member? What was the point in having Freja lock up the last of another packs line if she wouldn't get her hands on Tyler? Does she only kidnap people so she can stockholm syndrome them?
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Jul 12 '18
I don't think they knew that Tyler was the last one at the time. But it was mentioned in 4x07. Basically they - the writers - didn't think things through.
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u/Xil_Jam333 Jul 12 '18
There is a cure, but it takes so long to make, you have to hunt down lots of ingredients, and even if they have, it was too late; it was already in his heart.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
I'm sure I remember somewhere that Marcel has a small portion of the cure, and Freya also developed a cure to protect her family from Marcel, but again I think it is a small amount.
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u/bizarreisland Jul 12 '18
Pretty much the part where Vincent told Elijah "Wait til she gets her claws and when her eyes turns yellow" I knew Hope is going to trigger her curse in this episode.
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u/TrueLoner Jul 12 '18
fck this shit she does the same mistake she made in tvd in to now by killing off characters because she cant come up with something good
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u/tyrone_quincy27 Jul 12 '18
Why are they making it seem like Hope turning into a werewolf is a problem? Like sure it’ll be a tough transition but she’ll grow accustomed to it pretty soon
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u/RefreshNinja Jul 12 '18
Having all the bones in your body broken once a month & an insane rage burning inside you is something I would consider a problem.
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u/ballpark_mustard Jul 14 '18
Can't Freya just make her a moonlight ring?
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u/JamesC1337 Jul 19 '18
Not to mention that she's already a hybrid (tribrid?), so she should be able to change at will anyway.
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u/tyrone_quincy27 Jul 12 '18
Right but we’ve seen this b4 with Tyler Lockwood and others. Unless the dumbass writers are going to make it a harder transition just bc it’s Hope
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u/RefreshNinja Jul 12 '18
her situation IS very different though, from what she is, over how she was raised, to what her current environment is
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Jul 12 '18
I came in late. Completely forgot it was on.
Who TF killed him!!
And what the fuck is Elijah doing?
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Jul 12 '18
Lol! If I had waited 2 seconds i probably would have gotten the answer to my own question.
So Emmett did it?
And Elijah was acting.
Still confused. Why did I forget it was on!!?
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u/DiabolicalDee Jul 12 '18
That 3 week break didn’t help any. I had to set a reminder on my phone to tune in tonight.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
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Damn, poor Hope meets her destiny, even though Klaus tried his best to save her, but it was fate, she had to kill someone sooner or later. So her curse has been triggered. At least she got some payback for her mum, but I so wish she had stayed strong and killed that little shit Roman.
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Oh wow, poor Josh finally gone. I thought he was the Mat of TO, never ever gonna die, but at least he got reunited with Aiden, he deserves some happiness and peace. And he dealt with that witch so easily, Marcel should be ashamed of himself lol
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lol, Marcel getting milked like a cow
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I'm kind of guessing, if Elijah does survive the final season, he'll end up going to Shanghai to meet up with Antoinette. Glad she never died and is no longer running from the Originals, and free from her mother's madness.
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Poor Vincent, he's another character that deserves some happiness. The other NO witches should have had a vote on releasing their Ancestors though. They gave up that power just because Vincent didn't want to imprison Ivy which doesn't seem fair. I bet he didn't tell them what the repercussions would be and why he wanted to free them lol
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Not sure what happens with Vincent now. His power was based on being the regent, but now they have released the ancestors, does that mean his power is diminished? All he has left is the power drawn from nature, but if that was enough to be all conquering, then the Ancestors would never have agreed to trap their dead in the first place.
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I am now more convinced that Declan will end up being responsible for the eventual cure for Hope's problem, using his family's dark objects. The writers are keeping him in the show for a reason, his family had access to the dark objects, and he has now accessed his uncle's files. He also has a strong affinity for Hope.
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Maybe Declan will be the eventual killer of Klaus or one of the Originals using those dark objects, but then Hope would have to react as they are her family and she has taken the always and forever vow.
Note: I don't read fan sites, so if you know the answer to Hope, Elijah, etc, don't answer me, because I don't want to know.
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u/ValerianCandy Jul 18 '18
Ancestors
But he kinda did tell them about the repercussions? "Our powers will be different, they will come from the earth."?
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u/NX_IAmBecome Jul 12 '18
So there's a new "otherside"? It was destroyed. Was that where they were in the finale for TVD as well? I'm not sure. Was it some other afterlife?
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Jul 12 '18
I think that's just Peace. It was shown in tvd finale as well.
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u/Rackiexo Jul 12 '18
I think if anyone deserved peace it was josh. I can’t think of one person he killed throughout the whole show. He even handled his extreme Finn induced hunger really well considering he was one of the youngest vamps in the compound (s2). Sad pointless death but beautiful afterlife for him
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u/Xil_Jam333 Jul 12 '18
Ironic cause right before he died he killed that witch lol. But yeah, he was one of the most pure vampires, we never saw him (or at least they never showed it) lose control of his hunger and purposely feed on people.
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u/LeagueImaginaryWomen Jul 12 '18
Yeah, they "found peace" since Hell was destroyed. TVD showed some characters like Lexie finding peace before the otherside even collapsed.
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u/ckwongau Jul 12 '18
"Otherside" was the a place for Supernatural being , that place is gone , all supernatural being and human will now go to the same place for afterlife .Unless there is another "Hell" , another witch create a private dimension for the after life
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u/originalklausz Jul 12 '18
What the fuck is up it’s ep10 yet I’m still looking for the climax of the season. Like a few eps ago there was supposed to be a war and the last two eps were eh? The only thing I liked about this episode was the church scene. Our Beast Marcel doesn’t even seem to do dogshit he forced the Mikaelsons to kneel down and he seems to have a hard time with a few weakass vampires?
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u/RefreshNinja Jul 12 '18
What the fuck is up it’s ep10 yet I’m still looking for the climax of the season.
The climax of the season will be be the penultimate or final episode, not the tenth of thirteen. You want three episodes of denouement?
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Jul 12 '18
Well I guess congrats to Freya and Keelin, absolutely zero chance they kill more gays lol.
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u/Haya07 Jul 13 '18
I've waited for this season to come out for so long and i'm still waiting because this isn't the last season this is bullshit !.
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u/koukilovee Jul 15 '18
Disappointing how this season feels so rushed. I know its the last season but the episodes drag.. I did like how Josh got to be with Aden on the other side and that made tear up but other than that it could be better.
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u/NicholasLaBelle Jul 12 '18
Hope triggered it this is going to get interesting. Hope now has the teeth to fight as well as magic.
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u/Ianyyy Jul 12 '18
So when I saw the title of episode 12 “ the tale of two wolves” and its synopsis which says Elijah comes to a heartbreaking realization about his niece, I guessed that Hope might kill someone and trigger her werewolf genes. After this episode, it turns out I am right about the “becoming werewolf” part. And the rest of guess remains tested until episode 12 comes out and we could finally see if Elijah gets to her triggering her werewolf part in that episode.
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Jul 12 '18 edited Jul 12 '18
Look, maybe it's just me who's slow, but who TF did hope kill that made her trigger her wolf side? i mean, i thought the church was only filled with vampires. sigh i know it doesnt matter, and the writers probably wont answer this question, but just had to ask.
And yeah, great on Plec for using the same over-easy unrealistically happy afterlife death resolution thing in both of her shows. next youre gonna tell me that she'll use the same thing at the end of legacies. jesus, plec. we all know your writing's going downhill but at this point youre not even trying.
Also, I totally teared up when Aiden pulled up. But one thing I may have missed, or they may have missed, idk, is that there was this one other guy that josh had decent chemistry with before the camo guy in the bar. i forgot his name but unless i missed something, they totally forgot to close out that subplot.
Overall, I think the Freelin wedding is going to take place next episode and i am ~super~ happy about that. both christina and riley are extremely sexy ladies, and the only thing better than a lesbian couple is a sexy lesbian couple.
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u/trufflepastaxciv Jul 12 '18 edited Jul 12 '18
I don't think she killed Declan. Maybe the priest got caught in the death wave?
Edit: Yeah, in the last scene.
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u/ValerianCandy Jul 18 '18
Wasn't that guy the same though? Heh or maybe they forgot about the first guy, just like I did.
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u/PHP_Doge Jul 12 '18
This was senseless. A pile of dead bodies doesn't automatically make a final season great.
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u/changdi Jul 13 '18
So, following this episode's logic everybody would be better off dead, bc it is perfect harmony together with your loved ones... Hm, interesting.
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u/MajorBlitz Jul 15 '18
I kind of forgot how werewolves are as humans. Are they a ton stronger even when not transformed? Also can they turn at will if they wanted to? I remember that being in beast form makes mind control stuff not work like in TVD Mind Hijacking Travelers.
Also moonlight rings... Yeah those existed way back and having one bonded to any hybrid she makes, or her father would solve the bone breaking problem wouldn't it?
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u/justwannaknow1414 Jul 17 '18
For me, I wanted to cry when Josh died. But the filming and the way his death was showed wasn’t as emotional as it should’ve been. The only time that pulled on my heartstrings was when he and Aiden were reunited. If his death was delivered properly, I would’ve been bawling during that afterlife scene.
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u/justwannaknow1414 Jul 17 '18
Am I the only one that lowkey likes Roman. He’s a hot bad boy, kinda reminds me of Draco Malloy. But Roman got to escape his family’s madness and Draco didn’t. That scene with Hope and Roman was cute. I know what he did was fucking shitty but Hope said it herself, she was also responsible. If he ends up dying then what the fuck, no point for that, already established that he isn’t worth killing.
Also what fucked me up was when Hope got super angry at Roman when he said that he lost him mother too. Like Greta was some psycho but in the same sense so is Klaus. Greta was a mother to Roman, he sort of had a point in the wrong context.
This show is fucked, Klaus is psycho yes. But not to the point that he wants his daughter to kill people, no parent ever wants that. He and Hayley were worried about her triggering the wolf curse and what does he do? Help her. Yeah they didn’t know that the not needed side characters were in there but still, that was just stupid as fuck. Klaus should want Hope to stay pure from murder, especially since he has killed so many people. THINGS JUST DONT MAKE SENSE.
And where the hell has Kol been? Or any other one of the Originals? Seriously almost as bad as the last season of Teen Wolf. I’m a huge Kol and Davina fan but I have not seen anything cute and heartwarming about their relationship this season. Only when Kol mentioned her and that was cute as fuck but imagine if they interacted and it would be even cuter.
How they gonna tie all the loose ends at the final episode
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u/leah_- Jul 16 '18
Is it just me or is Declan's accent really stereotypical and lazy. I'm Irish and I live in Dublin so I have a Dublin accent and the fact that they couldn't have simply searched the accent is so bad. It's offensive to any Irish person. Because no one sounds like that at least I have never heard someone speak that way. It just hurts.
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u/TheTruth221 Jul 13 '18
marcel is so weak...
couldn't marcel cure josh tho???
why did klaus allow hope to kills all those vampire. he should know that will trigger the curse
what is decan doing there lol
where is rebekah?? she dont want to trigger the hollow??
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u/Xil_Jam333 Jul 14 '18
couldn't marcel cure josh tho???
His blood cannot cure his own bite, they already did that with Lucien to Cami
why did klaus allow hope to kills all those vampire. he should know that will trigger the curse
It will trigger if she kills a human, not a vamp, are you even paying attention to the show?
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u/and_yet_another_user Jul 12 '18
Really? I thought that whole Elijah going to betray his family with Antoinette was so transparent.
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u/stephanieleigh88 Jul 12 '18
He sympathized with Greta and understood where she was coming from but that was before everything else had happened.
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u/JohnSmithSensei Jul 12 '18 edited Jul 12 '18
You need backup? You're the Beast, for crying out loud. You should be rolling over everyone.