r/SubredditDrama • u/Singaporeanboxer • Oct 05 '17
Redditor reveals himself to be an antivaxxer and tries to defend himself with abortion
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u/thebourbonoftruth Oct 05 '17
If you live in india or africa. Out of the past 10 years (in the us) one child died from measles (who was vaccinated).
Citing the achievements of vaccines to argue against them. It's a bold move.
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u/mysteryweapon Oct 06 '17
Bro, have you even googled the side effects?
Huhn, turns out, one of the most common side effects is that people don't get deadly diseases and live to adulthood
This scourge of healthy adults clearly indicates how terrible vaccines are
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u/Felinomancy Oct 05 '17
The difference between vaccination and abortion is that the latter is a personal issue. If a woman gets an abortion, it won't cause other women around her to have a chance to miscarry.
"The government should stay out of my body" is a sound principle, but it's predicated on you not affecting other people's bodies, too.
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u/Ominous_Smell Oct 05 '17
if a woman gets an abortion, it won't cause other women around her to have a chance to miscarry.
That's some horrific Lovecraftian/Bloodborne shit right there. Miscarriages start happening around the city after the chosen aborts the child of the Old One from her womb.
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u/Moritani Oct 06 '17
Yep. Also, you know. The person choosing is the person who lives with the results of the choice.
There really isn't anything that closely resembles anti-vaxxers. They are making a choice that a) doesn't affect their health, b) brings immense shame upon their children c) could disable or kill their children and d) affects people outside their children. Nothing compares to that. Especially not anything that one does to oneself.
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u/Not_A_Doctor__ Oct 05 '17
tries to defend himself with abortion
"Get back... I'll perform an abortion on you!"
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Oct 05 '17
People like you believe in science by consensus/majority rule.
Real science only requires one scientist who can prove/test/retest it. I don’t need to poll a room to find out if 2+2=4.
What a ridiculous statement. Everyone with a brain knows that real science only requires the ability to poorly edit and then post a video on YouTube.
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u/Ughable Oct 05 '17
I don’t need to poll a room to find out if 2+2=4.
You actually do though... those are just symbolic numerals and notations given meaning by consensus.
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u/ani625 Oct 05 '17
When modern medicine gets it right. I don’t think we should be pumping formaldehyde into kids for every possible thing. Certain things, sure, but it’s gone overboard.
Oh lordy, this is a surplus amount of stupid
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u/Istanbul200 Oct 05 '17
Why would you ever admit to being an anti vaxxer on Reddit?
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u/H37man Oct 05 '17
There all over the place r/conspiracy and r/the_donald are full of them.
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Oct 05 '17
Ooh, still poppin.
What he stated debunks the point that the person above him was making. You cannot compare raw ingredients when one is injected and one is ingested. I breath air every day all the time, oxygen enters my lungs, passes through alveoli into the blood stream. It works great. But having a single air bubble injected into my blood stream would kill me.
What an idiot.
Plus, I'm pretty sure the air bubble thing isn't true. I was in the ER for fluids recently and asked the nurse about it. He said, "Nope, it's not like in the movies," holds up the syringe, "It'd take three of these of air to stall your heart."
I trust that way more than some fuck on Reddit who thinks, "Injection is different than ingestion," is a good contribution in support of, "This particular substance is bad when trace amounts are injected, while ingestion of larger amounts is harmless because of significantly different mechanisms."
Like, yeah, it's different, and sometimes that matters, but that's not happening here. We have huge numbers on this stuff. People are not so chemically varied, nor the data sets so shitty and small, that this could be doing what you think it's doing and Big Science is just missing it.
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u/niroby Oct 06 '17
The problem is a common problem with anti-vaxers or crunchy parents, a little knowledge is dangerous. They've gone and done research, they've read up on medicine and physiology, and then they've stopped, convinced now they have enough information.
They learn about your pH levels of your blood affecting your health and start drinking apple cider vinegar and alkaline water. And they stop before they learn about the acid base balance.
They learn about the live polio vaccine being able to shed as a live virus and stop before they learn about how it's worth the risk in endemic countries, and the live vaccine isn't offered in non-endemic areas.
They learn about Guillian Barre syndrome from certain flu vaccines and stop before they learn about how the flu can give you Guillian Barre syndrome. So you're risking death or almost death and Guillian Barre, or just Guillian Barre by itself.
Personally I think it's an intellect problem. People want to know more than other people, they want to be special and intelligent. So they read Pete Evans, and they write their blogs, and they feel warm and smug about how they know more than scientists and their other parent friends.
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u/gokutheguy Oct 05 '17
Abortion usually brings out a lot of dumb false equivalencies, but that one may take the cake.
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u/Osric250 Oct 05 '17
I love how he also goes off on if the flu-shot should be mandatory. The problem is that it can't be mandatory because we aren't able to produce enough of it every year to inoculate everyone. But pretty much everyone in the healthcare field is required to get them to keep their job because if they don't they could inadvertently kill a lot of patients.
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u/The_Actual_Pope Oct 05 '17
The United States collectively lost about 50 IQ points when about half of us somehow became convinced that "The Government" was another word for "EVIL".
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u/Pandemult Oct 05 '17
Super convincing.